3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In Z 90 Loop Cross our RBs gotta adjust to their blocking assignment, adjust their route or just READ to block or go out for a pass first , right?

As with EVERY offense....right?

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

In Z 90 Loop Pass our QB reads the D and calls out the blocking assignments, then motions or adjust a player, maybe even audible, then has to react to the execution between O and D players….all varying in each different D playcall, right?

As with every play in every offense...including the one we are playing tomorrow....right?  Is it an excuse for Washington?

I called it very obvious football 101, didn’t I? But it’s still much much more than the oversimplification you try to make of it(not just you but FL and BG very much also).

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

5 different areas on O all have to come together ….FOR EACH PLAY….varying to EVERY D PLAY they face. All has to come together operating as one.

Wow...what a new concept.   These guys barely put in the hours ...probably takes 2 weeks to master one play🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I called it very obvious football 101, didn’t I? But it’s still much much more than the oversimplification you try to make of it(not just you but FL and BG very much also).

They put in more hours than you work in your job.....hours and hours per day. Week...month.... since April.   It's the end of January.  

Why did they put up all these points?

Did Lane need to master the offense,  that's why he had a false start that cost us 4 points?   Did AJ drop the ball because he didn't " master" the offense?   Did Elliot miss 2 PATs because he didn't master the special teams?  

They put up 28 points...the mistakes they made that costed us from getting close to 50 were not " needing to master the offense "

The plays you obsess about are simply to try to make everyone pardon Hurts from any responsibility for mistakes. 

Just now, joemas6 said:

They put in more hours than you work in your job.....hours and hours per day. Week...month.... since April.   It's the end of January.  

Why did they put up all these points?

Did Lane need to master the offense,  that's why he had a false start that cost us 4 points?   Did AJ drop the ball because he didn't " master" the offense?   Did Elliot miss 2 PATs because he didn't master the special teams?  

They put up 28 points...the mistakes they made that costed us from getting close to 50 were not " needing to master the offense "

The plays you obsess about are simply to try to make everyone pardon Hurts from any responsibility for mistakes. 

This is all after the facts of whether the O was on the same page each play as a unit.

Hurts played his worst game  vs Carolina... that's why AJ said the passing game.  Obviously the team squashed the issue... and your boy stepped up the following week.

Right now he isn't playing great...but he isn't playing poorly either.  2 games back from a concussion.   Game 3 now... he should be playing even better.  But just keep managing the game and we should be fine 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This is all after the facts of whether the O was on the same page each play as a unit.

As a unit...they were on the same page to put up almost 50 ...if not for individual mistakes that had nothing to do with mastering Moore’s O

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

They put in more hours than you work in your job.....hours and hours per day. Week...month.... since April.   It's the end of January.  

Why did they put up all these points?

Did Lane need to master the offense,  that's why he had a false start that cost us 4 points?   Did AJ drop the ball because he didn't " master" the offense?   Did Elliot miss 2 PATs because he didn't master the special teams?  

They put up 28 points...the mistakes they made that costed us from getting close to 50 were not " needing to master the offense "

The plays you obsess about are simply to try to make everyone pardon Hurts from any responsibility for mistakes. 

So if the that pass plays …we had four mental errors blowing assignments. Not got beat….weren’t on the same page. Then you have a couple where the receivers and QB weren’t  on the same page. Then add in a false start penalty. Add in an illegal OLine down field penalty. Then we get to some  flat execution errors by each player you’d like to name on the O(AJ, Hurts ….). 
   See you just keep trying to make it all about Hurts. That’s you. I keep consistently saying it’s the whole O.

After all that then we can get into some of what I consider as pretty stupid spacing on some plays. Some could be player route adjustment errors….but too much seeing it to not be. Moore design issue. Which I also am seeing in these route combinations. Then you get into playcalling. I don’t really like Moore playcalling. Three straight successful runs then you Empty backfield pass? That’s Playaction time all day long. Then get into why did the Pack and Rams seem to be anticipating our route tree combinations so clearly? Is it just being to predictable? A ‘tell’ somewhere? Formation giving it away? 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts played his worst game  vs Carolina... that's why AJ said the passing game.  Obviously the team squashed the issue... and your boy stepped up the following week.

Right now he isn't playing great...but he isn't playing poorly either.  2 games back from a concussion.   Game 3 now... he should be playing even better.  But just keep managing the game and we should be fine 

AJ said all the stuff I just was explaining to you about being on the same page. He said all those examples I mentioned.

Hurts shares blame right along with them. Heck I don’t like how he feels to be playing a bit gunshy. Feels too much like how last season they just taught slide…get down..don’t get hurt. This season it’s been don’t turn the ball over. Which I’m totally in favor of ball security with it in his hands. He didn’t protect it enough running around and such. So he needed to ‘do better.’  But in the passing game it’s like I’ve been saying…you don’t just coach…don’t throw interceptions. Terrible coaching to do that. You coach how and what needs to be done the right way….you provide answers and knowledge. That’s what eliminates …or decreases the chances of interceptions.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So if the that pass plays …we had four mental errors blowing assignments. Not got beat….weren’t on the same page. Then you have a couple where the receivers and QB weren’t  on the same page. Then add in a false start penalty. Add in an illegal OLine down field penalty. Then we get to some  flat execution errors by each player you’d like to name on the O(AJ, Hurts ….). 
   See you just keep trying to make it all about Hurts. That’s you. I keep consistently saying it’s the whole O.

Were the 7 sacks impactful toward the game?   Those are the plays where people question if Hurts had any responsibility for .

All week I've been saying he wasn't anywhere near the problem.

You choose to keep your head up your arse because you just can't be satisfied until every last one of us on here agrees that Hurts had zero responsibility for anything negative.  

You gotta stop...you obsess about 4 plays...none had impact on the scoreboard...like Lane's false start or AJ's drop...or Becton deciding to take a stroll down field.

Why do you keep talking about those plays?    Let it go.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts shares blame right along with them. Heck I don’t like how he feels to be playing a bit gunshy. Feels too much like how last season they just taught slide…get down..don’t get hurt. This season it’s been don’t turn the ball over. Which I’m totally in favor of ball security with it in his hands. He didn’t protect it enough running around and such. So he needed to ‘do better.’  But in the passing game it’s like I’ve been saying…you don’t just coach…don’t throw interceptions. Terrible coaching to do that. You coach how and what needs to be done the right way….you provide answers and knowledge. That’s what eliminates …or decreases the chances of interceptions.

Hurts does not share blame on the 17 points that we didn't put on the board... false start, drop, down field or missed PATs...Hurts played perfectly fine to have his team put up 45.  

The other plays...who cares. .let it go. 

Not the week to talk about Hurts...nor try to defend him. 

It’s just snaps and reps and reps facing all these scenarios under real live fire…against a different scheme and different talented athlete combinations. Our O just doesn’t have enough experience in this area with enough plays. Fairly obvious basic and simple as well.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts does not share blame on the 17 points that we didn't put on the board... false start, drop, down field or missed PATs...Hurts played perfectly fine to have his team put up 45.  

The other plays...who cares. .let it go. 

Not the week to talk about Hurts...nor try to defend him. 

You are the one keeps talking Hurts so much. I’m talking THE WHOLE O! Over and over and over again.

How many times have I mentioned "whole O same page?”

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How many times have I mentioned "whole O same page?”

We have considerable room for growth here. Just here. Then get into executing better. Then get into the overall Moore experience with play design and playcalling.

Have all this occurring and we’re still in this fantastic position where we should still win the SB!!!!! 

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts does not share blame on the 17 points that we didn't put on the board... false start, drop, down field or missed PATs...Hurts played perfectly fine to have his team put up 45.  

The other plays...who cares. .let it go. 

Not the week to talk about Hurts...nor try to defend him. 

I’m the only one that sees how like in the Rams game ….such a high percentage of our big plays came from audibles? Like I just showed.. take away those two huge runs by Saquan and he’s averaging  2.7 yards a carry. We don’t convert that clutch third down pass.

Speaking of Hurts…he did make that long TD run to get us going…broke tackles and took it to the house. That was a designed deliberate playcall by Moore there. So Moore deserves his credit…along with the blocking …WHOLE O SAME PAGE!

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are the one keeps talking Hurts so much. I’m talking THE WHOLE O! Over and over and over again.

THE WHOLE O had nothing to do with why they didn't score 45 points.  They were individual mistakes that had nothing to do with " mastering an offense" or " being on the same page"

Let it go.  

Or go back to the Dallas game where they put up 41 points...without a sack... why didn't the WHOLE O  have problems then?   

Sirianni sucks...doesn't know Xs and Os...Moore is not good.... the blocking sucks...the WRs aren't getting open

I've gone out if my way to show this multiple times...

Because you all triggered me when you said Hurts was 1.5% at fault for anything. Jalen is perfect... stop saying otherwise...you haters! 

Guess I’m just opposite of many. Probably more critical the higher the expectations rise. 2021 I just enjoyed their gritty overachieving success to …just make the playoffs. That team didn’t have a prayer of running the table. Making the playoffs was a successful season for that group. But when it comes to this team that can bring home a parade? Guess I’m being more hypercritical. Going to really be crushing if we left meat on the bone that costs us. 

2023 was just so painful with how I felt I just saw it coming the whole time. 10-1 team that couldn’t punch their way out of a wet paper bag in the playoffs.