1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I don’t think we are using Moores O all that much go look what he did in Dallas and LA looks nothing like what we run with Hurts…as for so I think the O will add things in future years I’d hope so you always have to change with the league or you run stale… That’s completely different then saying this team doesn’t know Moore O this season though. 

We can't do Moore's total offense because the QB is limited(I keep saying this)

5 different areas on O all have to come together ….FOR EACH PLAY….varying to EVERY D PLAY they face. All has to come together operating as one.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Feel I’ve laid out proof examples in abundance here. It’s the development of the whole O installing…executing….growing….adapting and applying it. Just hasn’t been many opportunities to do all this under fire. Just isn’t the same as your PS games you claim all our starters should have miraculously ironed all these issues out during.

LMAO which NFL teams have it al ironed out by week 1? It's a yearly ongoing process. Year 2 is better(and so on) because you trained the players you already taught and are drafting better "fits" as you go along

So there you go with the specifics all about just one play in the O playbook. It’s great looking on their IPads seeing it drawn up. But absolutely nothing like adjusting in the heat of battle under heavy fire. Not the same personnel on the opponent we possess to practice against either. No red don’t touch the QB jersey being worn…he’ll get killed. No light tap contact from defenders on these O players. Actual extreme force and malice being applied at full speed.

48 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Washing DT Payne downgraded to OUT

They also have a sub par O lineman in. I think he is a 3rd stringer we will pick on most of the day

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO which NFL teams have it al ironed out by week 1? It's a yearly ongoing process. Year 2 is better(and so on) because you trained the players you already taught and are drafting better "fits" as you go along

You tell me which team has it ironed out week one ….first season….learning a completely new O? I’m on the side of you can’t…or did you forget your on the opposite side of the debate here.You’re on the side of it should all be done in the PS games our starters didn’t participate in. 
 

 

 But exactly thanks for agreeing finally with my point all along.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

It's exactly for Hurts...because you are trying to say that Mailata, Dickerson,  Jurgens, Becton, Lane, Goedert, AJ, Smith...etc ....are all suffering because they need to " master" the complex Moore O'"

Becton missed one assignment...Lane had a false start, AJ dropped a ball, Elliot missed two PATs.

It's not a pandemic of the team needing to " master Moore’s O" 

It's football...it happens. 

Heck….haven’t even gotten into false start penalties, dropping passes, inaccuracy’s passing, missed extra points…all those issues. All that’s after everything I’m listing to just have the whole O unit on the same page. Execution phase all comes after all the stuff I’m talking about. Because how can you execute very well if everybody isn’t even on the same page knowing what to do?

For me this all pretty basic Football 101 knowledge. NFL actually well past 101 levels of adjustments…but the basic concepts I performed most all these before playing Junior High ball.

https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-drew-brees-impressively-explains-how-players-decode-exhaustingly-long-play-call-code-names-in-a-huddle/ You only need to listen for the keys word(s) of your position. It's not that tough. It's  not the rocket science you claim to know. Calling a Z 90 cross doesn't tell the other players what they need to know

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You tell me which team has it ironed out week one ….first season….learning a completely new O? I’m on the side of you can’t…or did you forget your on the opposite side of the debate here.You’re on the side of it should all be done in the PS games our starters didn’t participate in. 
 

 

 But exactly thanks for agreeing finally with my point all along.

So miraculously some team has week 17 ironed out by week1 ?  Thanks for agreeing with my point all along

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-drew-brees-impressively-explains-how-players-decode-exhaustingly-long-play-call-code-names-in-a-huddle/ You only need to listen for the keys word(s) of your position. It's not that tough. It's  not the rocket science you claim to know. Calling a Z 90 cross doesn't tell the other players what they need to know

Now if Hurts is calling this stuff in the huddle should he not KNOW where all his players are on the field(since you know he called it???) And he can't remember the coverage he called 15 seconds ago? C'mon now

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So miraculously some team has week 17 ironed out by week1 ?  Thanks for agreeing with my point all along

Your players from week 16 the previous year don't know the same plays in PS with the same staff? They all have to be taught all over again?

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-drew-brees-impressively-explains-how-players-decode-exhaustingly-long-play-call-code-names-in-a-huddle/ You only need to listen for the keys word(s) of your position. It's not that tough. It's  not the rocket science you claim to know. Calling a Z 90 cross doesn't tell the other players what they need to know

So far you told the Z receiver his assignment, no one else

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You only need to listen for the keys word(s) of your position. It's not that tough. It's  not the rocket science you claim to know. Calling a Z 90 cross doesn't tell the other players what they need to know

And once again we’ll go backwards bogging down in the specific example detail that isn’t the important part of any point being made. Exactly why I prefer to explain in more vague conceptual terms so the peanut gallery doesn’t just bog down in the pie e that’s least important to what’s being discussed. 
 
  

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So far you told the Z receiver his assignment, no one else

And we continue backwards….

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

And we continue backwards….

Why these discussions aren’t capable to be performed here

But I had the patience once again to put in the effort and make the attempt.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And once again we’ll go backwards bogging down in the specific example detail that isn’t the important part of any point being made. Exactly why I prefer to explain in more vague conceptual terms so the peanut gallery doesn’t just bog down in the pie e that’s least important to what’s being discussed. 
 
  

LMAO you want to be vague when it suits you, then point out SPECIFICS when it suits you lol. Are we doing vague or specific

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

And we continue backwards….

Tell me what information a "Z 90 cross" gives to the O line/RB and TE assignments

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://thesportsrush.com/nfl-news-drew-brees-impressively-explains-how-players-decode-exhaustingly-long-play-call-code-names-in-a-huddle/ You only need to listen for the keys word(s) of your position. It's not that tough. It's  not the rocket science you claim to know. Calling a Z 90 cross doesn't tell the other players what they need to know

This is just too get the playcall. Not having to do so much with the adjustment according to D playcall. But yep….starts there….

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But I had the patience once again to put in the effort and make the attempt.

You're my RB. I'm calling a Z 90 cross,what is your duty on this play?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO you want to be vague when it suits you, then point out SPECIFICS when it suits you lol. Are we doing vague or specific

Because what matters is the idea and concepts. The specifics is where you try to bog down the whole discussion missing  the forest for the trees.

But…thing is….I still have shown massive patience detailing specifically. But then you’ll just complain about not choosing to read so much detailed specifics.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But…thing is….I still have shown massive patience detailing specifically. But then you’ll just complain about not choosing to read so much detailed specifics.

Or you pretty much just argue to argue over the simplest most basic things….to bog down any real discussion that could be had.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Because what matters is the idea and concepts. The specifics is where you try to bog down the whole discussion missing  the forest for the trees.

Continuing backwards....... lol Once AGAIN you are my RB. I called a Z90 cross,what is your assignment on this play?