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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Who was the starting LB in TC? Who did Rosie pickup? I don’t even remember. Not great GM move. But hopefully pushed Dean to earn it. I’ll credit that was the brilliant master plan strategy all along.

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31 possible answers....I'm sure per usual you will p@@#y out on giving an answer and instead write an essay nobody is going to read.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which GM do you think most people would vote the best in the NFL?

Rosie. I don’t think I’d even disagree. I do realize he has the luxury of job security the majority of the GMs can’t afford. Most great franchise decisions are longer term and won’t pay off for a GM trying to keep his job for one more season. Rosie has enjoyed a huge advantage there.

8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which GM do you think most people would vote the best in the NFL?

Is there any version you believe I care what others opinions are versus my own? Softball question.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

And...... for the Hurts stans... the best QB in franchise history.... 2nd round.  The Hurts stans should be bowing down to Howie.  

Absolutely! Huge balls! Huge balls after he just paid enormous money to ditch his terrible move with Wentz. Great move! Not many GMs making that move. Turned out to be the huge saving factor in him keeping his job actually. That and the top reason was he screwed things up so incredibly bad…he could t be fired. He was the only one that could dig out of his disaster 4 win capped out team with tons of future money still owed. You weren’t getting a top GM replacement to take over that clustergicj situation.

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3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Absolutely! Huge balls! Huge balls after he just paid enormous money to ditch his terrible move with Wentz. Great move! Not many GMs making that move. Turned out to be the huge saving factor in him keeping his job actually. That and the top reason was he screwed things up so incredibly bad…he could t be fired. He was the only one that could dig out of his disaster 4 win capped out team with tons of future money still owed. You weren’t getting a top GM replacement to take over that clustergicj situation.

Would you have preferred he didn't sign Wentz? 

If so...then do your research and see the list of players on this roster that are here mostly due to that trade! 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

And...... for the Hurts stans... the best QB in franchise history.... 2nd round.  The Hurts stans should be bowing down to Howie.  

How do you explain how Hurts kept his job and is still leading our team though? Second rounder…that you and felt like most didn’t believe was even a starter. Very young and developmental. Hurts called on to start and lead the capped out 2020 team. No FA help coming to a 4 win team. Very limited squad that personnel wise couldn’t even by your Rosie ball fondling hands be described as average. Rosie fired the coach just won the SB. Hired a young first time HC that was qualified to have tons of energy and work hard loving football under Reich’s O(no HOF for him…but crucially for our SB victory…thank you Reich…but as a HC …you suck). So a mediocre O mind Siri was an errand boy for the older coach. 

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How do you explain how Hurts kept his job and is still leading our team though? Second rounder…that you and felt like most didn’t believe was even a starter. Very young and developmental. Hurts called on to start and lead the capped out 2020 team. No FA help coming to a 4 win team. Very limited squad that personnel wise couldn’t even by your Rosie ball fondling hands be described as average. Rosie fired the coach just won the SB. Hired a young first time HC that was qualified to have tons of energy and work hard loving football under Reich’s O(no HOF for him…but crucially for our SB victory…thank you Reich…but as a HC …you suck). So a mediocre O mind Siri was an errand boy for the older coach. 

How did Hurts survive? Impossible. Crap team, first time HC that doesn’t understand basic X and Os running his O with twenty plays and no scheme. No playcalling ability to brag about. He’s had a moment or two with a good playcall. But as a playcaller he looks like a great guy that wouldn’t survive in high school ball. Even the biggest fans of Siri have to realize he was in way over his head at first. Our team stunk to start 2021.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How did Hurts survive? Impossible. Crap team, first time HC that doesn’t understand basic X and Os running his O with twenty plays and no scheme. No playcalling ability to brag about. He’s had a moment or two with a good playcall. But as a playcaller he looks like a great guy that wouldn’t survive in high school ball. Even the biggest fans of Siri have to realize he was in way over his head at first. Our team stunk to start 2021.

Great pickup on Smitty that draft. He’s a great polished player. We stole him from the giants makes it so sweet for me. But…2021 he was just a rookie…paired with what Quez and Reagor. 

Four win team capped out disaster. That’s where Hirts had to survive. FL, No Mas…all calling for Hurts head from day one. Endless bashing. But heck…even Rosie was scouting Pickett and a terrible QB class stocking picks looking to bail on Hurts the very next season. I’m telling you …Rosie was drafting Pickett. If the disaster that Rosie created played out any other way…we reach for trading to get Pickett. Not trading for AJ or drafting Nolan…or whichever lost picks occurred as a result.

Terrible over his head first time coach calling plays just heading for everybody getting fired. Coaches, QB…probably even Rosie. 2-5 start I believe. Weak roster. But quality guys that we did have in place that season. Siri sucking so incredibly bad…he had to last ditch let Steichen take over. Siri wasn’t making it to week 10 his first HC job….with an organization that doesn’t ever knee jerk. 

2-5 not talented capped out green HC team. How did Hurts survive that No Mas? I can’t even imagine your viewpoint on this. We all know my opinion…Hurts willed us to victory eeek after week with Steichen carrying Siri…saving his career. With a favorably schedule. But what’s favorable for our 2021 team…we weren’t  that talented…weren’t brilliant coaching. A 2 win team is what we were.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

And...... for the Hurts stans... the best QB in franchise history.... 2nd round.  The Hurts stans should be bowing down to Howie.  

How did any QB…regardless of youth and development survive that? That second round kid saved everybodies freaking jobs. {Well…Stout you don’t fire}

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Don't see them rolling with Hill as their QB. he is a TE/RB/QB jack of all trades, master of none, but he plays TE fairly well, so they could use McKee if Moore goes there. Re-do Hill to keep him on

We only see Hill not being chosen as a starter for any coach in the entire NFL because we’re so slow. Listen to No Mas…Hill or McKee for two seasons is the path for the new coach. 

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Carr,Haener,Rattler are their 3 and they have DeNucci on the PS

Thought you liked Rattler? 

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I never had Reagor over JJ.

Here's the bold face lie

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You see Ham's posts.... it makes you sound like the Eagles are some joke organization!

How many teams in 3 SBs in the last 8 years?  

How many in 8 conference championship games this century?

How many with more playoff wins this century despite the last 4 years of Andy, 3 years of Chip and the first year rebuilding with Doug. ... 8 years of no wins. 

But....we suck...just make stupid decisions...not like SF.   Cleared cap.missed playoffs half the time, messed up their cap, and draft picks. ..less SB appearances in that time frame... and two lucky playoff wins in that time frame.   But worship at their alter while Howie sucks?

Perfect example of what you do. Sounds good. Unless you include facts. I never said anything like were a joke. But point out the good and the bad. Just feels like how it should be done to me. Don’t lick up all the kool aid that anyone is perfect. Call out the bad and praise the good. Feels like mostly my complaints and problems when Rosie actually fixes those complaint areas we go to SBs.

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is Rosie fantastic for signing Ceedy Duce this season? Or should we just be glad he was making up for such a blind mistake last season? 

If you know your QB(which you seem not to, or refuse to see) is that it would be blindly STUPID to pay another WR1 when your QB has such limited arm talent(which was cut back even more) Would you rather have CeeDee or Bark(pick ONE) with their accompanying contracts

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

You see Ham's posts.... it makes you sound like the Eagles are some joke organization!

How many teams in 3 SBs in the last 8 years?  

How many in 8 conference championship games this century?

How many with more playoff wins this century despite the last 4 years of Andy, 3 years of Chip and the first year rebuilding with Doug. ... 8 years of no wins. 

But....we suck...just make stupid decisions...not like SF.   Cleared cap.missed playoffs half the time, messed up their cap, and draft picks. ..less SB appearances in that time frame... and two lucky playoff wins in that time frame.   But worship at their alter while Howie sucks?

But yeah great spin. If it actually reflected my thoughts here like you suggest. But yeah I can nitpick the 2022 SB season honestly. I feel we should have won it. I believe Pedey and Schwartz would have grabbed a second ring. Just can’t see AR dicing up Schwartz like he was so far out of his league…like Gannon showed. Way too much talent on that D. Worst D performance. So was it all super fantastic we lost the SB? Or did ego get in the way firing the coaches that would have won the SB? Good and bad all here. Put together the personnel…but botched the coaching. Kind of feels big time to me Rosie let that once in a lifetime setup slip away. Lost us that SB.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They have Olave, a very nice WR, who could use a pocket passer if he wants stats. Rattler is substandard at both passing and running

You wanted him as first rounder I recall.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The media narrative....which Ham is going to hate...

New England and KC did it with all time QBs...  Howie doesn't have that, he had to build the rest of the roster to get there.  

I view that those all time QBs were created by those coaches. No way Brady happens like that without Bellicheating. Learned to read Ds by being told the stolen playcall. Coach told him the D he was looking at and he looked to see what that meant.

  Mahomes has so many issues actually most seem to ignore. As talented as ever been. But man he has really lacked development on key areas. He had Cheetah early on. Use that arm. Top five coach QB whisperer at that….in his corner. Kelce best TE ever he just relies on to get open. Really seeing him being a real slow learner. Like AR over and over again trying so hard to beat home the lessons. He takes forever to get it…then reverts still even. He’s going down as the best ever! 

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11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We only see Hill not being chosen as a starter for any coach in the entire NFL because we’re so slow. Listen to No Mas…Hill or McKee for two seasons is the path for the new coach. 

Hill is not a starting caliber QB, if he was he was have started over Carr??? Why did they go jaw deep to bring Carr in? It wasn't because Hill was so good or Rattler, or Haener 

48 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Which GM do you think most people would vote the best in the NFL?

How many Gms can most people even name? Couple ex superstar players. Otherwise only one GM always grabbing the spotlight. We know which GM gets Rosie’s vote. He’ll tell you.

46 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

3 categories..

1. Draft... which team has had a better combo of drafts the last 4 years?

2.  Free agents....which team has had better group of free agents over the last 4 years?

3.  Which team manages the cap better the last 4 years?

Now... I'm not saying the Eagles are the top at all 3...but certainly in the conversation in all 3.

So which organizations are run better? 

Now ... once you answer these...let's do one for the QB. 

There are no four years of performance without Hurts miracle carrying and saving everybodies jobs.

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