8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

WR's should not have to "go up and get the ball" .If they have to it's because the pass was inaccurate. It also exposes them to injury,most DON'T LIKE having to be exposed(ask them) BTW what's Parker supposed to say when he was given a job?? The QB stinks but I signed anyway? You really are clueless to these player comments

I think Parker very concisely and clearly identified Hurts and his strengths matching up exactly this way.

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Because Mahomes is a leader. You even see him takeover the team DURING a game

He has AR. A coach that makes adjustments. Isn’t so predictable. Heck…just a fantastic O mind and HC. One of the best. Short version: not Siri.

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not if you're the Eagles with Hurts I guess

Or if you are the 5-5 Chiefs with AR and Mahomes

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I think Parker very concisely and clearly identified Hurts and his strengths matching up exactly this way.

He got used to running QB's. Had one in Miami,so of course with those types you have to have jump balls as they panic throw on the run

42 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Parker called it like it is…he throws a very nice catchable ball downfield. He gives his WRs the opportunity to go up and win the ball. Or a Pass Interference penalty should be called. Haven’t really generated enough of those as I see it somehow though.

Yes...Hurts throws a perfect ball for w guy like Parker.   Remind me who had the worst separation of all the NFL WRs again???  Perfect guy who prefers the jump ball.  He doesn't separate ...so no YAC...I believe you made that point to GB... so that guy needs the soft weak armed jump ball.  

The speed guys need to be led down field on the deep ball... not our guy's thing

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He has AR. A coach that makes adjustments. Isn’t so predictable. Heck…just a fantastic O mind and HC. One of the best. Short version: not Siri.

That part is true,even so you can see Mahomes make the plays on the field. He is PASS first,run if he has too,Hurts panics too soon. he should use his legs like Mahomes to move around in the pocket and make the additional 1-2 reads instead of just running automatically after 1 read

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The OC has been his lifelong family friend. He wasn’t going to throw Johnson under the bus. That’s to be admired. But not what the team needed last season. The change on O coaching was what was needed…not so much on D. Rosie really **** the bricks on that whole heavily thought out plan of his. Complete fail!

Again....it wasn't a question about Johnson. It was about Hurts leadership. 

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Listen carefully- RPO=run,pass OPTION. If Hurts cannot read defenses he can't or won't change the play AT THE LINE. I didn't like the CALLED RUNS(or that many of them) YET Hurts CHOSE TO do them anyway. He really is piss poor reading defenses and making more than 1 read, has been his issue all along,because he always relied on his legs,not his intelligence reading defenses

He’s fantastic at running and making the decisions on RPOs. This can’t be disputed. He’s clearly not Peyton manning level QB reading NFL Ds for sure though.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...Hurts throws a perfect ball for w guy like Parker.   Remind me who had the worst separation of all the NFL WRs again???  Perfect guy who prefers the jump ball.  He doesn't separate ...so no YAC...I believe you made that point to GB... so that guy needs the soft weak armed jump ball.  

The speed guys need to be led down field on the deep ball... not our guy's thing

That is really Smiths(and most OSU WR's) forte. So with a guy like Smith, with Hurts at QB, you almost need to treat him like a slot and get the ball out fast with a nice lead on the pass pass. Since we know Hurts has a limited arm, I would like to see more of those type passes since Hurts is capable with those. He's not dropping 65 yard bombs into their breadbaskets

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes...Hurts throws a perfect ball for w guy like Parker.   Remind me who had the worst separation of all the NFL WRs again???  Perfect guy who prefers the jump ball.  He doesn't separate ...so no YAC...I believe you made that point to GB... so that guy needs the soft weak armed jump ball.  

The speed guys need to be led down field on the deep ball... not our guy's thing

Clearly proved throwing up either to Quez wouldn’t work regardless.

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That part is true,even so you can see Mahomes make the plays on the field. He is PASS first,run if he has too,Hurts panics too soon. he should use his legs like mahomes to move around in the pocket and lame the additional 1-2 reads instead of just running automatically after 1 read

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s fantastic at running and making the decisions on RPOs. This can’t be disputed. He’s clearly not Peyton manning level QB reading NFL Ds for sure though.

Right,yet you call us haters for understanding his limitations and wanting him to improve them. We don't hate Hurts,we want to see a SB like you do. But you have to be able to take the blinders off and be realistic. Now we have a new OC who is more into the west coast passing offense. Knowing Hurts deficiencies,it will be interesting to see what plays they give him

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

Oh boy do I disagree. Put Mahomes in this offense and watch us take off. We actually have the better receivers. They had Hill one year and Kelce,we have both outside guys and Goedert. There is no reason for Hurts to have to run. Now we have Bark and Hurts better not hog the ball or bark will become disenchanted

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Listen carefully- RPO=run,pass OPTION. If Hurts cannot read defenses he can't or won't change the play AT THE LINE. I didn't like the CALLED RUNS(or that many of them) YET Hurts CHOSE TO do them anyway. He really is piss poor reading defenses and making more than 1 read, has been his issue all along,because he always relied on his legs,not his intelligence reading defenses

I’ll point out one negative against Hurts that’s a huge factor in sort of helping your point: Hurts has been under a new coordinator all but one season of his college and pro career. So I do see and acknowledge how this has affected him. It’s not like the Chiefs where it’s really AR O the whole time anyway. Siri’s O mind hasn’t proven to be so ingenious.

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And Dallas always loses to the good teams at the end....like clockwork. 

Yes they do…no matter how many seasons they start out looking so strong.

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just not an accurate statement. Other than he isn’t Mahomes. This part is completely true. But Mahomes wouldn’t have been Mahomes…without AR.

I will call BS and WHY we lost the SB. Let's recall the had a 10 point lead at the 1/2. Mahomes made the needed plays and we(Hurts) had no response

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ll point out one negative against Hurts that’s a huge factor in sort of helping your point: Hurts has been under a new coordinator all but one season of his college and pro career. So I do see and acknowledge how this has affected him. It’s not like the Chiefs where it’s really AR O the whole time anyway. Siri’s O mind hasn’t proven to be so ingenious.

Ok I will give you that,consistency does help,but you have all of camp to work that out. If you suck you're going to do that out of the gate not go 10-1

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes they do…no matter how many seasons they start out looking so strong.

The annual choke LOL

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again....it wasn't a question about Johnson. It was about Hurts leadership. 

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

14 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You usually are adamantly against paying the fifth year options….because it involves guaranteed full single season cap hit. 

 

13 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The signing bonus can’t be that big. This year on top of his cap number wouldn’t be as big if a deal. But a huge signing bonus number divided on top of next year’s guaranteed fifth year option? You’re getting into the twenties of millions on the cap then.

Ok... these two posts lead me to believe that you think Smith is getting what would have been his 5th year salary of $15.5 mil... simply because we exercised the 5th year option?

That's why you were know it about May 2...thinking that it means every player that gets the 5th year option exercised now already goes on the books for next year.  That's not the case.

Neither does it mean that the 3 years between 2026 and 2028 are exactly $75 mil of new money. 

They Eagles can absolutely pay Smith any part of that money now and next year.  Signing bonus, roster bonus or option bonus ( like Hurts)  

The terminology of 3 year extension was technically correct because they exercised year 5...but it's 4 years of an extension in reality.  

The contract is probably going to work like a 5 year $91-93 mil deal.   Starting from scratch.  Next year's 5th year option $ never goes on the books.

BTW Swift wasn't awful. Bark is better than Swift. As I said Howie has given Hurts every tool in the book. The O line we don't know about but the skills players are even better than last year. Hurts has no more excuses now. There is nothing more Howie can do for him

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

Forget friendship. It's a business. LURIES business

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done

Then he needs to go away my friend

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Forget friendship. It's a business. LURIES business

The stories being reported were that Hurts was the one having issues with Johnson.   

11 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Right,yet you call us haters for understanding his limitations and wanting him to improve them. We don't hate Hurts,we want to see a SB like you do. But you have to be able to take the blinders off and be realistic. Now we have a new OC who is more into the west coast passing offense. Knowing Hurts deficiencies,it will be interesting to see what plays they give him

Yet you bash Hurts so heavily over having a completely inexperienced OC backed up by our HC Siri. How I’ve always understood things…having played the game….the coach comes up with the gameplan…calls the plays…sets expectations and understandings to his players. Coach wants this to happen with this play…when reading this from the D..and so on. In a bad situation for each playcall clearly identified by the coach he wishes things to be changed and proceed according to his philosophies and plans. If a coach comes with a bad game plan…then is bad at playcalling….yet can’t express to his players adjustments to be made? No player will be successful.