4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Then he needs to go away my friend

Should have been sooner…but the OC at least is gone and fired. HC still here however. Doing what? I wouldn’t know.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was about what needed to be done was Hurts demand Johnson be relinquished of duties and somebody with better answers and more experience he brought in. I do think Hurts failed the team on this. He just wasn’t going to do what needed to be done throwing his lifelong family friend under the bus. But you know….I respect the heck out of that.

It was what was going on during the games and at practice....Hurts being the cause.   Not doing things that the coaches were telling him...etc.   

I think you get obsessed with your point of view that you never open your mind to what's being said.  

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I will call BS and WHY we lost the SB. Let's recall the had a 10 point lead at the 1/2. Mahomes made the needed plays and we(Hurts) had no response

We got the ball in the first half. Chiefs got it in the second half. AR completely owned Gannon. To say Hurts had no response just loses you any credibility. Best player in the game that day. Very clearly. All proclaimed it. Hurts didn’t have a final response because the D didn’t get off the field. PI against Bradbury. Otherwise not a doubt in my mind Hurts drives us down and scores.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yet you bash Hurts so heavily over having a completely inexperienced OC backed up by our HC Siri. How I’ve always understood things…having played the game….the coach comes up with the gameplan…calls the plays…sets expectations and understandings to his players. Coach wants this to happen with this play…when reading this from the D..and so on. In a bad situation for each playcall clearly identified by the coach he wishes things to be changed and proceed according to his philosophies and plans. If a coach comes with a bad game plan…then is bad at playcalling….yet can’t express to his players adjustments to be made? No player will be successful.

What is going to be the excuse now?  Are you starting your case against Moore?

AJ has been adamant about his brush ups with Hurts having nothing to do with him getting the ball.  Sirianni getting mixed up in is words talking about the issue looking like deflection to protect Hurts.    The rumors about the locker room not liking his " style " etc.    All had nothing to do with Johnson. 

18 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Oh boy do I disagree. Put Mahomes in this offense and watch us take off. We actually have the better receivers. They had Hill one year and Kelce,we have both outside guys and Goedert. There is no reason for Hurts to have to run. Now we have Bark and Hurts better not hog the ball or bark will become disenchanted

Still you blatantly disregarding coaching. The Cheetah was with Mahomes four years actually.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We got the ball in the first half. Chiefs got it in the second half. AR completely owned Gannon. To say Hurts had no response just loses you any credibility. Best player in the game that day. Very clearly. All proclaimed it. Hurts didn’t have a final response because the D didn’t get off the field. PI against Bradbury. Otherwise not a doubt in my mind Hurts drives us down and scores.

Mahomes was clearly better ..converting on the key downs when needed.  He was the steak....Hurts had rushing TDs...he was the fantasy sizzle. 

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ok I will give you that,consistency does help,but you have all of camp to work that out. If you suck you're going to do that out of the gate not go 10-1

But that’s exactly what we did last year. Hurts squeeeked out wins to get to 10-1. Never was a team that played a complete four quarter game. Never had things gelled and in sync. But of individuals…making individual plays…from individual playcalls. In fact….announcers clearly identified our O even way back then. Hurts will avoid the rush buying time to hit his WRs downfield. This was the O last season.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But that’s exactly what we did last year. Hurts squeeeked out wins to get to 10-1. Never was a team that played a complete four quarter game. Never had things gelled and in sync. But of individuals…making individual plays…from individual playcalls. In fact….announcers clearly identified our O even way back then. Hurts will avoid the rush buying time to hit his WRs downfield. This was the O last season.

This is your issue.  " Hurts squeaked out wins" but the losses were zero his fault.  

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Mahomes was clearly better ..converting on the key downs when needed.  He was the steak....Hurts had rushing TDs...he was the fantasy sizzle. 

Not even close. But our D didn’t make a single play…heck even make a challenge of a play.71 percent completed passing for Hurts over 300 yards. Ran for 70. Yes he finished drives by running them in. That’s a positive…not a negative. Scored four TDs. I enjoy the sizzle….can’t have a good steak without that.

Just now, joemas6 said:

This is your issue.  " Hurts squeaked out wins" but the losses were zero his fault.  

To be fair our D stepped up two second halves really impressively. Before Desai got canned.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Not even close. But our D didn’t make a single play…heck even make a challenge of a play.71 percent completed passing for Hurts over 300 yards. Ran for 70. Yes he finished drives by running them in. That’s a positive…not a negative. Scored four TDs. I enjoy the sizzle….can’t have a good steak without that.

Yes ..Mahomes made plays I agree.  Especially when it counted.   Converted the key 3rd downs...didn't fumble untouched to give away a TD..and was able to convert 3rd and 3 via a pass to avoid a punt.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be fair our D stepped up two second halves really impressively. Before Desai got canned.

What about the Jets?

What about Seattle?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

To be fair our D stepped up two second halves really impressively. Before Desai got canned.

But Hurts did drive down and win the games at the end. With help from our stud K at times.

Regardless ..Smith signed before the Eagles were forced to exercise the 5th year option on May 2....so all good.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What about the Jets?

Hurts was very clearly injured sadly in that game. Probably ended that game with his worst mistake of his career. Finished the game failing to make the comeback and threw that interception to end things. Clearly he didn’t want to drive and plant avoiding throwing on the injured leg. We were down..and Hurts failed to drive us down to victory at the end regardless.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What about Seattle?

The book was so clearly put on us at that point. But a very key mistake to end that game. AJ and Hurts went off script in that final play that failed. It was a mistake. Could have been a huge key to victory if it worked. But not the play needed or that should have been run to finish that game.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes ..Mahomes made plays I agree.  Especially when it counted.   Converted the key 3rd downs...didn't fumble untouched to give away a TD..and was able to convert 3rd and 3 via a pass to avoid a punt.

Of course he didn’t have any plays made against him by our D. Think that’s more making my point though.

They exercised the 5th year option..but that's different. They chose to do it... apparently it would have been different if they were forced to on May 2. 

So all good. 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

They exercised the 5th year option..but that's different. They chose to do it... apparently it would have been different if they were forced to on May 2. 

So all good. 

Like you said…on its own

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts was very clearly injured sadly in that game. Probably ended that game with his worst mistake of his career. Finished the game sailing to make the comeback and threw that interception to end things. Clearly he didn’t want to drive and plant avoiding throwing on the injured leg. We were down..and Hurts failed to drive us down to victory at the end regardless.

Idk .the worst mistake was the fumble in the Superbowl.   The dumbest mistake was not going out of bounds before the half vs the Giants...got bailed out by the penalty.   

But yeah...that INT was probably the biggest mistake as far as a passer... no vision, and panick wise.  

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Like you said…on its own

On its own...what us the difference?  As long as they put in a deal before the fall deadline? 

You refuse to acknowledge May 2 meant nothing.  

You refuse to acknowledge the stories regarding Hurts teammates issues with Hurts...nothing to do with playcalling from Johnson. 

9 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yes ..Mahomes made plays I agree.  Especially when it counted.   Converted the key 3rd downs...didn't fumble untouched to give away a TD..and was able to convert 3rd and 3 via a pass to avoid a punt.

Mahomes came back to the script AR had given him. Hit the wide open underneath easy completions our D was always giving him. He had RB help also. Very key. WR catching the balls…unlike Quez.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

On its own...what us the difference?  As long as they put in a deal before the fall deadline? 

It was your own words you are arguing against now…geez