https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tua-tagovailoa/32005441-4762-0344-3a46-269f5e5e854e  UDFA,replaced Hurts in the championship game. Reunite them,they have similar styles and costs no draft pick. he can sit behind hurts(again). I would like to see McKee some. I'm not a Kenny Pickett fan,I will say that now(for the record). He has to prove things to me

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We just paid Dickerson a record breaking amount

Gotta pay DeVonta…likely 25 mil-ish

Just set the record paying Hurts

Yet all done early and minimizing the cap hits due to being able to spread the cap hits a year early...and also will have those guys records of pay being broken by the time the money kicks in.   Dickerson won't be close to top paid guard.  Mailata will be out of the top ten in OTs.  Hurts ... this year $13 mil....next year $21 mill... 2026 = $31 mil.   Those numbers are locked on the books at those low cap hits.

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Wrong,with WR's coming out for the draft,teams will opt to draft one. I would have NP dropping Marvin Harrison into my line up as opposed to paying someone else

This is what had already been occurring across the league. Everybody realizing Justin Jefferson contract significance.

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So why do we need to "trust you" when that happens every play? Our soft secondary scheme was tested and failed,but nobody bothered to change it. We just kept letting it fail. Misused just like Goedert was. You are just stating the obvious.

Why I referred to it as the obvious elephant in the room

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tyler-guyton/32004755-5973-4424-47c4-5396aaed336f This guy here? Says he can be a starter in 2 years,why would you waste a 1 pick on him? I mean if we wanted to trade back to 32,then that would be ok I suppose,but doesn't even seem like a round 1 investment there either. So he starts year 3? 1/2 way through his rookie deal? seems like terrible value to me

Lane has already been tutoring him. He’s a big man at 6’7” 328. Has room to grow and add much muscle on his frame. Just imagine him in the workout barn with Lane hand the time.

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yet all done early and minimizing the cap hits due to being able to spread the cap hits a year early...and also will have those guys records of pay being broken by the time the money kicks in.   Dickerson won't be close to top paid guard.  Mailata will be out of the top ten in OTs.  Hurts ... this year $13 mil....next year $21 mill... 2026 = $31 mil.   Those numbers are locked on the books at those low cap hits.

Dak cap hit $55 mil... THIS YEAR.... More than Hurts foe 2025 and 2026 combined.  

Then Dak also has $40 mil of dead cap to be added on after this year.   $95 mil of cap hit....for playing in 2024.   Hurts $ 66 million of cap hits ..and he plays all 3 years. 

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We need a guy that is the unprecedented starter,not this merry go round of "well let's try this guy"

He was drafted to be exactly that though, right?

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Kind of the D designed around playing with the lead type thinking…again.

Or kind of a defense you put out on 3rd and long??    Like the exact down where we sucked last year?  

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Yet all done early and minimizing the cap hits due to being able to spread the cap hits a year early...and also will have those guys records of pay being broken by the time the money kicks in.   Dickerson won't be close to top paid guard.  Mailata will be out of the top ten in OTs.  Hurts ... this year $13 mil....next year $21 mill... 2026 = $31 mil.   Those numbers are locked on the books at those low cap hits.

You want to have the problem of paying good players. Ceedee Lamb and DeVonta Smith are clearly guys you wish to keep.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Or kind of a defense you put out on 3rd and long??    Like the exact down where we sucked last year?  

Other downs when you are talking about top paid FA and first round pick

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Other downs when you are talking about top paid FA and first round pick take tons if usually believe

And the other downs would be the 3-4 D... with the 3 big guys on the middle.  

Is it too much to assume our big FA pickup and our first round pick will be expected to both be out there over 50 percent of the time?

Just now, joemas6 said:

And the other downs would be the 3-4 D... with the 3 big guys on the middle.  

Nobody plays a 3-4 Base D anywhere near two thirds of the time

I mean...do you expect Jordan Davis to be out there in a 4-3 front with Smith and Huff as DEs?  

I don't.

Nickel is played over 50 percent of the time. Get you started on the numbers right there

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is it too much to assume our big FA pickup and our first round pick will be expected to both be out there over 50 percent of the time?

Not at all....4 guys should be in the rotation...if both of them play over 50% ...they should be out there together on passing downs to rush ...or in the 3-4 on early downs. 

Dime is right there behind Base personnel league wide. That’s not too mention all those Short Yardage and Goaline personnel plays.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Nickel is played over 50 percent of the time. Get you started on the numbers right there

Again.... I ask how often do you expect a 4 man line on early downs? 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Dime is right there behind Base personnel league wide. That’s not too mention all those Short Yardage and Goaline personnel plays.

You don't look at situations...you are looking at it incorrectly. 

50 %... why can't you play both of them 66%  one on 1st down...the other on 2nd and both on 3rd?  

You follow now...see how easy 50% for both can work?

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

50 %... why can't you play both of them 66%  one on 1st down...the other on 2nd and both on 3rd?  

You follow now...see how easy 50% for both can work?

My question was about both being on the field at the same time facing the run.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

My question was about both being on the field at the same time facing the run.

Is that something clearly to be avoided? Seems like that’s kind of your thinking No Mas.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

50 %... why can't you play both of them 66%  one on 1st down...the other on 2nd and both on 3rd?  

You follow now...see how easy 50% for both can work?

Can either player hold up to this workload? Still be productive doing so?

38 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tyler-guyton/32004755-5973-4424-47c4-5396aaed336f This guy here? Says he can be a starter in 2 years,why would you waste a 1 pick on him? I mean if we wanted to trade back to 32,then that would be ok I suppose,but doesn't even seem like a round 1 investment there either. So he starts year 3? 1/2 way through his rookie deal? seems like terrible value to me

Really wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s the choice.

26 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tua-tagovailoa/32005441-4762-0344-3a46-269f5e5e854e  UDFA,replaced Hurts in the championship game. Reunite them,they have similar styles and costs no draft pick. he can sit behind hurts(again). I would like to see McKee some. I'm not a Kenny Pickett fan,I will say that now(for the record). He has to prove things to me

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/draft/2024/03/29/taulia-tagovailoa-nfl-draft-maryland-quarterback-tua/73146157007/