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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

But what if DeJean WAS there at 24?

They can choose between PJ or DJ,thats a tough call

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They can choose between PJ or DJ,thats a tough call

Time for bed,nice chat with some food for thought eh?

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https://jokermag.com/qwantez-stiggers-nfl-story/  Someone Howie would take a chance on

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https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2024-shrine-bowl-day-2-risers-sliders-draft/  I would take a UDFA shot at him. He's talented but raw and a definite WIP,but this is a guy Howie would pick up. No risk with possible major reward as we work on him. A project like Mailata was(who I admittedly was ready to give up on LOL). He played against TO in some kind of league and he shut him down.OK  so TO is old but still in shape and this kid fanned him. He has major potential. Worth the effort in 1-3 years maybe depending on his ability to learn. great story here too. Love to give him a chance here

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https://section215.com/posts/top-prospect-turns-down-pre-draft-meeting-with-eagles-01htdd0v8f3f Here's the real thing not the FAKE BS the media made it out to be. He simply did not have the time to meet with us. His schedule was full up. I wish the media person who made up the fake claim making it sound like he could make it but didn't want to gets FIRED and SHAMED for making up BS hype.

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Updated mock 1-22 Cooper DeJean-CB-Iowa(C'mon Howie you can do it)       2-50- Chris Braswell-edge-Bama    2-53-Cooper Beebe-IOL(RG)-Kansas state    4-120(I am struggling with this pick) Trevin Wallace-LB-KY    5-161-Khyristian Boyd-DT-N Iowa     5-171-Beau Brade-S- Maryland(Under rated IMO)   5-172- Dallin Holker-TE- Colorado St(Spann- Ford-TE is possible as well)        6-211-Tahj Washington-slot WR- USC(also being under rated and playing alongside 2 other top guns, he still produced)

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5 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

https://heavy.com/sports/philadelphia-eagles/bill-belichick-jeffrey-lurie-howie-roseman-news/

1) I wouldn't want Bellicheat and his overbearing style, but

2) How much of the decision not to hire Bellicheat was HR not willing to give up the control he now enjoys?

Culture clash. Belicheat wants things his way and demands it. He's not a coach you can "like and get along with" Siri is alot more laid back and the players like him. I wish Siri was tougher,but Belicheat is too tough and will turn the players off IMO. Brady was the reason for Belicheats success and has foundered since he left

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My round 6 slot choice. He is being under rated. He plays with one of the top 3 WR's going in this draft. overlooked and discounted. Easliy a round 4-5 WR in my view. I hope we can steal him in round 6. Normally I am not a fan of USC WR's,yet I can't deny this kids talent for getting open and giving the QB a window,which is all you can ask from a slot. Very slight which could be an injury risk,but well worth a round 6 pick. Take the shot Howie

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No moves,no frills,but he's tough as nails. He will bang you. Good body control. Not fast or shifty. he just gets you out of jams. A really good TE2 prospect

Philly’s 2024 first-round pick (No. 22 overall), 2024 second-round pick (No. 53 overall), 2024 fifth-round pick (No. 172 overall) and 2025 third-round pick
to Chicago in exchange for No. 9.

 

Would you make this trade?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Philly’s 2024 first-round pick (No. 22 overall), 2024 second-round pick (No. 53 overall), 2024 fifth-round pick (No. 172 overall) and 2025 third-round pick
to Chicago in exchange for No. 9.

 

Would you make this trade?

1.   Absolutely never until pick 9 is on the clock ... you never trade this for a spot...you trade for a specific player.

2.   Which player is your target? For this package is it a QB, WR or DL?      The other positions you don't give up that much.

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8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Philly’s 2024 first-round pick (No. 22 overall), 2024 second-round pick (No. 53 overall), 2024 fifth-round pick (No. 172 overall) and 2025 third-round pick
to Chicago in exchange for No. 9.

 

Would you make this trade?

No,too much talent in this draft to start losing picks. If anything I trade back if it's possible to get your guy

59 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

1.   Absolutely never until pick 9 is on the clock ... you never trade this for a spot...you trade for a specific player.

2.   Which player is your target? For this package is it a QB, WR or DL?      The other positions you don't give up that much.

With the thinking of possibly four QBs off the board before the pick…at 9 we’d be essentially looking at a top 5 player on our Big Board.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

With the thinking of possibly four QBs off the board before the pick…at 9 we’d be essentially looking at a top 5 player on our Big Board.

So you don't have the specific player in mind... just trading to trade? 

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So you don't have the specific player in mind... just trading to trade? 

Top 5 on Big Board isn’t enough?

Gotta love Hurts on Sportcenter talking about the energy Saquon brings into the room - would be nice to hear  Hurts get out of that laid back crap and show some energy!

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Top 5 on Big Board isn’t enough?

No... not before seeing who is available.  If you want a trade... you set it up... then when 8 is on the clock you get team 9 on the phone....finalize it as soon as you see who is there.

What's significance does top 5 have for you over top 4 , top 6, top 8 etc?   Should be about a specific player.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

No... not before seeing who is available.  If you want a trade... you set it up... then when 8 is on the clock you get team 9 on the phone....finalize it as soon as you see who is there.

What's significance does top 5 have for you over top 4 , top 6, top 8 etc?   Should be about a specific player.

Me inserting my own ranking of player I’m not sure really serves any purpose. I’d personally trade up for this guy or that. At 9 all kinds of top talent elite prospects to covet. But what matters is Rosie’s Big Board. For him to grab any player in his top 5 has massive value to me.

47 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Me inserting my own ranking of player I’m not sure really serves any purpose. I’d personally trade up for this guy or that. At 9 all kinds of top talent elite prospects to covet. But what matters is Rosie’s Big Board. For him to grab any player in his top 5 has massive value to me.

But you never give up that package without knowing exactly which player you are going to get.   Player #5 could never much lower than player #4 on their board...who knows?

Go look at last year's draft ... Carter with pick 9.   Would you make that trade up for him?   Then look at evety player in front of him...what if the draft went a different way...would you trade that package for all those players?

Can't do it without knowing who is there. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

But you never give up that package without knowing exactly which player you are going to get.   Player #5 could never much lower than player #4 on their board...who knows?

Go look at last year's draft ... Carter with pick 9.   Would you make that trade up for him?   Then look at evety player in front of him...what if the draft went a different way...would you trade that package for all those players?

Can't do it without knowing who is there. 

I’d agree with your logic and thoughts here on many trade scenarios. But …top 5 on your Big Board? That guy should very clearly be a stud…or your scouting stinks.

Top tier elite players in this draft for me would probably be: 2 CBs Arnold and Mitchell, TE Bowers, 4 WR Harrison/Nabers/Odunze/Thomas, T Alt 

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’d agree with your logic and thoughts here on many trade scenarios. But …top 5 on your Big Board? That guy should very clearly be a stud…or your scouting stinks.

Say it's an OT or a WR.

Jags at 17 almost just have to draft a WR. Feel they are trading up to do so.

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