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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

The problem is they didn't run out the clock

I knew what was coming. You knew what was coming. Everyone watching NBC knew what was coming.

If you know what the play is gonna be i don't care how good Barkley or the O line is. They followed the KC plan

They could have run outside or a short safe pass. If it's not there you eat the ball

Dallas had one play to start the 4th Q... then the Eagles ran half the time off on their next drive. They absolutely limited the possessions ladt night.

Except for the end of the half when for some reason they rushed to score. Hurts slides, Barkley goes down... they don't rush and call a pass after the long completion to Dotson... any one thing would have prevented Dallas from scoring at the end... even just let Lamb catch that first 6 yard pass and just tackle him ... they mis-played that whole scenario on both sides after thelong pass to Dotson

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Just now, joemas6 said:

Dallas had one play to start the 4th Q... then the Eagles ran half the time off on their next drive. They absolutely limited the possessions ladt night.

Except for the end of the half when for some reason they rushed to score. Hurts slides, Barkley goes down... they don't rush and call a pass after the long completion to Dotson... any one thing would have prevented Dallas from scoring at the end... even just let Lamb catch that first 6 yard pass and just tackle him ... they mis-played that whole scenario on both sides after thelong pass to Dotson

Correct me if i'm wrong bit I think the pass to Dotson was the only pass attempt over 20 yards

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Dallas had one play to start the 4th Q... then the Eagles ran half the time off on their next drive. They absolutely limited the possessions ladt night.

Except for the end of the half when for some reason they rushed to score. Hurts slides, Barkley goes down... they don't rush and call a pass after the long completion to Dotson... any one thing would have prevented Dallas from scoring at the end... even just let Lamb catch that first 6 yard pass and just tackle him ... they mis-played that whole scenario on both sides after thelong pass to Dotson

We agree on the goal just not how to get there

28 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We’ve got to come up with some kind of O plan this season

Like the one that scored TDs on the first 3 drives?

Unheralded player of the game

Bradley Mann

8 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Hurts 19 of 23 with 2 throwaways and a Barkley drop

And a couple nice catches from Barkley on high throws and the one handed grab.

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Like the one that scored TDs on the first 3 drives?

No…talking about an actual plan

7 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

We agree on the goal just not how to get there

Not sure what you mean at all. They rushed to score at the end of the half. For no reason,they still had 3 timeouts...relax and take your time.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…talking about an actual plan

What do you think they do during the week... watch reruns of Cheers and Seinfeld?

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What do you think they do during the week... watch reruns of Cheers and Seinfeld?

Wasn’t coming up with a real effective plan…we saw that much.

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…talking about an actual plan

Specify what you mean... as they came out and scored a TD on the first 3 possessions... then opening drive of the 3rd quarter they kicked a FG after a 6 plus minute drive...

Im not sure what the fantasy is. Just scoring a TD on every drive pretending there aren't 11 guys on defense trying to stop them?

Even later if you watch the game chart...we passed the ball to move it to eat up clock. Pass to AJ was key in getting that game clinching first down.

The consensus of what im hearing...AJ wasn't moving great, Dallas was absolutely putting extra guys in coverage and allowing Hurts to scramble and run...

Idk.. I think at times we think it's a video game and expect perfection on the physical side. .it's why to me im looking at decisions in game management... that stuff you can control all the time. You can absolutely control your pace. You can't control who is going to win at the line each play or who will be able to get open or cover each play...or drops or bad throws.

The physical part isn't that easy, that's why only a small amount of players can make the league.

Clock management and common sense ...you can control that....every time

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t coming up with a real effective plan…we saw that much.

We scored on our first 4 drives can’t get more effective then that

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t coming up with a real effective plan…we saw that much.

Really... 3 straight TDs....a long FG drive...on the first 4 possessions and then one that took half the 4th quarter clock on the 5th.... and tbr final one that ran out the clock when needed?

Just not up to your standards on fantasy island?

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Specify what you mean... as they came out and scored a TD on the first 3 possessions... then opening drive of the 3rd quarter they kicked a FG after a 6 plus minute drive...

Im not sure what the fantasy is. Just scoring a TD on every drive pretending there aren't 11 guys on defense trying to stop them?

Even later if you watch the game chart...we passed the ball to move it to eat up clock. Pass to AJ was key in getting that game clinching first down.

The consensus of what im hearing...AJ wasn't moving great, Dallas was absolutely putting extra guys in coverage and allowing Hurts to scramble and run...

Idk.. I think at times we think it's a video game and expect perfection on the physical side. .it's why to me im looking at decisions in game management... that stuff you can control all the time. You can absolutely control your pace. You can't control who is going to win at the line each play or who will be able to get open or cover each play...or drops or bad throws.

The physical part isn't that easy, that's why only a small amount of players can make the league.

Clock management and common sense ...you can control that....every time

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

We scored on our first 4 drives can’t get more effective then that

Wasn’t because of a plan. It was Hurts completely just making it happen in unfavorable situations.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Really... 3 straight TDs....a long FG drive...on the first 4 possessions and then one that took half the 4th quarter clock on the 5th.... and tbr final one that ran out the clock when needed?

Just not up to your standards on fantasy island?

Jalen Hurts had to out make happen. The plan was far from the reason.

Passing game was total ass.... again

3rd and goal from the 4…Hurts made it happen for a TD.

3rd and five…Hurts makes it happen to convert. Then 2nd and goal from the 8…Hurts makes it happen for the score.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Wasn’t because of a plan. It was Hurts completely just making it happen in unfavorable situations.

Yea Hurts made couple plays with his legs we going to ignore the other plays that put us in position to score though….

Strong runs??? Deep shot to Dotson??? Great catches by Barkley on bad passes???

Part of the gameplay is no doubt the expectation that Hurts is going to make some off script plays with his legs…

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

3rd and goal from the 4…Hurts made it happen for a TD.

3rd and five…Hurts makes it happen to convert. Then 2nd and goal from the 8…Hurts makes it happen for the score.

Then 10 yards out Barkley makes it happen for a score… Then Hurts takes a bad sack then ultimately leads to an Elliott FG from

50+

Look how the cowboys plan arranged Ceedee matching up with Adoree. We didn’t create things or scheme things up.

I mean hell both Hurts TDs he had time to throw but it’s no doubt coached that if you have a free lane run the ball….

The 2nd td the defense had there backs to Hurts on a rollout pass would have been stupid for him not to run…. These are things that are no doubt talked about and designed as part of the plan it’s a legitimate option if the passes are there don’t force it and pickup what you can

Our guys were covered just way too much. Cowboys coverage isn’t that all worldly great. They were on what we were trying to do.

First score it was two straight gives to Saquan he got stoned on. Then the pass play called? There was nothing..nobody open. It was completely up to Hurts there.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Look how the cowboys plan arranged Ceedee matching up with Adoree. We didn’t create things or scheme things up.

Yea terrible plan by Vic to allow the cowboys best WR to get matched up with adoree… I agree the D plan was horrible…. But the offense can’t expect much better then 4 opening drive scores week 1 with no PS games together

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