6 hours ago, mattwill said:

He was a "slipper” not a "sleeper”

Round 4 isn't high either. Fine as a prospect or BU like most round 4,5 guys. On occasion you can hit on one(Darius Cooper for example) just like some higher ones bust. Every draft pick has a risk factor. Howie puts in the homework to get the best he can and he moves around to get his guys

5 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Do image Ringo is the next man up against a depleted Bucs WR room but we do also have Nickerson who we just moved up from the practice squad I know they were talking fairly high on him throughout camp.

IDK that TB is depleted. Both Evans and Godwin could play, they have Sheppard and Egbuka is breaking out this year. If either of the first 2 don't play, that will be helpful

9 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Like I said to BG...would not surprise me if we add both pass rusher and DB. We have a young team already...and plenty of picks. No place for all those picks to make a roster. A trade or two seems a little obvious.

The who and what.. why do we need to worry about it?

Seems interesting subject to me

10 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah... noticed what happened with the offense while a person with the last name Johnson was at RT vs when it was Pryor.

Go check when Lane went out and when Fred went in.... what happened in between. Coincidence? I forgot...Hurts yelled at people that's the big difference 🙄🙄

Hurts rallied the troops. On O and D…players and coaches. Really what seemed to happen is Hurts just got fed up with the ultra conservative playing not to lose. Hurts seemed to take over the O and just make it go. Opened it up…stopped playing so scared.

IDK when he would be ready,but he is young yet and we could stash him for later possibly

https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/chargers-asante-samuel-injury-update-free-agent-saints

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts rallied the troops. On O and D…players and coaches. Really what seemed to happen is Hurts just got fed up with the ultra conservative playing not to lose. Hurts seemed to take over the O and just make it go. Opened it up…stopped playing so scared.

We were behind. We were forced to open it up. It wasn't all Hurts lmao(although for you it always is). Now we need to open it up all game for TB. If we play conservative they will beat our ass. We need to be aggressive this week. Don't take Mayfield lightly, he can ball with the best. We can dink and dunk like they will try to do, but we need those deep shots to keep the D out of the box. Force them to defend one or the other(Bark or our WR's)

9 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It's camp LOL. They play vs different people throughout and you make your best guess based off incomplete info. This happens to all 32 teams. IMO MJ was worth keeping,but they didn't. I don't whine endlessly about it

Your RB I can’t see it. Plenty of decent backup RBs can be gotten cheap or right off PS or the street.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Mondon wasn't a sleeper. He was high on every Draft analyst's list of ILBs. For example, from NFL.com

I never saw him being ranked anything but day three

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your RB I can’t see it. Plenty of decent backup RBs can be gotten cheap or right off PS or the street.

Is that why we gave up picks for Bigsby? My MJ showed well, it's just we had no room for him. Same went for Booker

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Your RB I can’t see it. Plenty of decent backup RBs can be gotten cheap or right off PS or the street.

MJ was a rookie(still is).How much cheaper do they get??????

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

That doesn't answer the question. He asked you, "What's wrong with the starting five?" Try answering the question you are asked. It makes conversations go much more smoothly.

The question was what was off the subject…

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

That doesn't answer the question. He asked you, "What's wrong with the starting five?" Try answering the question you are asked. It makes conversations go much more smoothly.

was speaking purely about depth. Starting five is fine. Actually seeming like stud Oline starters aren’t healthy and making it through all season at top form. Dickerson hasn’t been right yet. Lane is in his twilight. Cam seems to be playing through issues fairly routinely.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

Mondon wasn't a sleeper. He was high on every Draft analyst's list of ILBs. For example, from NFL.com

You found one site he was round five….which isn’t high at all.

9 hours ago, mattwill said:

That doesn't answer the question. He asked you, "What's wrong with the starting five?" Try answering the question you are asked. It makes conversations go much more smoothly.

Never said starting five had issues to ask about

Another that could be a possible band-aid https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/statistics/_/id/21836/cameron-sutton

8 hours ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

Oh my days trade trade trade!!! Ringo just isn’t good enough. The guy is behind Jackson who stinks and Bennett (just gone to IR I know) who has struggled when he’s come in to the game.

Yeah felt like they really wanted Ringo to win the job all along. But he flat failed. Seems like almost a situation where you ponder whether to even keep a guy like that around even.

7 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Relax... enjoy the game not everything needs to be perfect.

I always nitpick tighter the closer I think our squad is to being champions

6 hours ago, mattwill said:

Looking through the Titans roster for trade possibilities might be timely.

This is just what I’m throwing out there. Just spitballing some ideas.

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

MJ was a rookie(still is).How much cheaper do they get??????

So how much cheaper do they get?

Will Shipley was full practice today

47 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

MJ was a rookie(still is).How much cheaper do they get??????

Just making the point about he’s replaceable

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Just making the point about he’s replaceable

Awesome observation, so is everyone 🤣 That's we they have drafts

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Round 4 isn't high either. Fine as a prospect or BU like most round 4,5 guys. On occasion you can hit on one(Darius Cooper for example) just like some higher ones bust. Every draft pick has a risk factor. Howie puts in the homework to get the best he can and he moves around to get his guys

All good points, but they are tangential (external) to the original point Ham and I were discussing … prospects who were identified as Draft sleepers. Once the Draft is completed there aren’t any sleepers. All the prospects are now either drafted players, or UDFAs committed to a team, or those who missed the boat entirely. A synonym for "sleeper” arguably is”dark horse”

I agree with Ham that APR qualified as a dark horse coming into the Draft. Mondon was never a dark horse.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Seems interesting subject to me

If it is interesting to you, what names are you considering as matches to your interest?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts rallied the troops. On O and D…players and coaches. Really what seemed to happen is Hurts just got fed up with the ultra conservative playing not to lose. Hurts seemed to take over the O and just make it go. Opened it up…stopped playing so scared.

All their backs were against the wall. Awareness of that reality was not known solely by Hurts. They responded to that reality as a team … a team that coalesced and collaborated.

Regarding "leading” the Defense, how was he able to do that? When they were on the field he wasn’t. When he was on the field they weren’t. They were effectively ships passing in the night. The leadership of the D came from Fangio up in the Booth, and the Defensive players down on the sidelines.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I never saw him being ranked anything but day three

I also never did either, but that isn’t unusual for the vast majority of ILBs. It is a low leverage position. NFL.com had him ranked 106 (4th Round) Draftek had him at 100. Most of the Draft simulators, who aggregate all the various sources, had him going in the 4th as well.