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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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4 hours ago, Lambo said:

That is open in the NFL.

Compared to the coverage on LaPorta on the TD pass Goff threw last night, AJ is on the field by himself.

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4 hours ago, Lambo said:

That is open in the NFL.

Compared to the coverage on LaPorta on the TD pass Goff threw last night, AJ is on the field by himself.

Not yet he isn’t. Right after Hurts threw it he did though.

Holy crap!!! Zadarius Smith retired on us.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Ham has eyes, but he does not see. Is he a potato? Or a needle? Or a hurricane?

As Ezekiel said to the dry bones …

Son of man, you dwell in the midst of a rebellious house, which has eyes to see but does not see, and ears to hear but does not hear; for they are a rebellious house.

When Fangio uses a zero blitz... are you worried about giving up an out route or the pass down the middle?

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not yet he isn’t. Right after Hurts threw it he did though.

Stop

12 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

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Touchdown AJ

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

When Fangio uses a zero blitz... are you worried about giving up an out route or the pass down the middle?

With Q and Cooper as the Boundary CBs less the out route than down the middle where the Safeties need to pick up the receiver.

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

With Q and Cooper as the Boundary CBs less the out route than down the middle where the Safeties need to pick up the receiver.

The out route is the same...regardless of zero blitz.. the zero blitz concept opens up the middle of the field.

Football 101 concepts...

You throw where the blitz came from

Use motion to try to decipher the coverage.

You find your best matchup ( your player vs theirs)

All this leads to an easy decision to find AJ... in man coverage.. right where the blitz was coming from over the middle.

It's really high school level stuff.

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

With Q and Cooper as the Boundary CBs less the out route than down the middle where the Safeties need to pick up the receiver.

What defense or blitz call makes you worry about an out route?

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

What defense or blitz call makes you worry about an out route?

That Out run like a pro easily could have resulted in scoring a TD

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That Out run like a pro easily could have resulted in scoring a TD

The QB should never have looked there. The CB on the left could have slipped and fell and the QB shouldn't have even seen it.

The talk in the local media is that Dotson didn't expect the ball. I know you have your agenda... but it absolutely seems the QB isn't real popular at the moment inside the locker room.

And the kicker for the local media....is Smith. He is seen as a calm level headed team first unselfish guy. The vibe is that he isn't too happy with the QB at the moment.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The QB should never have looked there. The CB on the left could have slipped and fell and the QB shouldn't have even seen it.

The talk in the local media is that Dotson didn't expect the ball. I know you have your agenda... but it absolutely seems the QB isn't real popular at the moment inside the locker room.

That DB was off AJ…so it was longer developing route against that coverage. I’m adding it’s taking longer for AJ this season.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The QB should never have looked there. The CB on the left could have slipped and fell and the QB shouldn't have even seen it.

The talk in the local media is that Dotson didn't expect the ball. I know you have your agenda... but it absolutely seems the QB isn't real popular at the moment inside the locker room.

Don’t you think that is a major problem been going on the last few games? That definitely isn’t a good thing …that our WR aren’t running their best routes expecting the ball. Not just Dotson…AJ several times also. It’s the QB fault you suggest now that the WR aren’t performing their basic job duties? That sounds like the weakest worst #Hurtshater spin of them all. So now Hurts needs to run the routes for our WR now also…because they aren’t running them crisp, giving up running hard….not ready to catch passes. Absolutely F that!!!!

If you’re a WR? Run your route precise expecting the ball to come your way and make the catch. Dumbest crap ever a WR on a pass play wasn’t expecting to be targeted. Obviously Siri just wasn’t throwing very much this season…which isn’t going to make for happy WRs. Any WR tried to excuse things by stating he wasn’t expecting the ball? Yeah…I’d make an example quick of that guy. CYA later…that player is on the wrong team.

Seems to me the players aren’t happy with the O coaching. Flat out calling our O predictable and more. Lane slammed our O coaching performance.

"You can game plan all you want. But when you get in the game, a lot of it is making adjustments,” Johnson said. "We’re not efficient in anything.” Sirianni points to three-and-outs as an issue. The Eagles led the NFL in three-and-out rate — they were committing three-and-outs at the highest rate in 20 years entering the game — and they had three more drives without a first down on Thursday. Johnson thought predictability was a problem. "Last two weeks, you kind of know what it is: You know when the pass is coming, you know when the run is coming,” said Johnson, who still pledged confidence in offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo. "Moving forward, we’ve got to do a better job of that.” A.J. Brown acknowledged

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You can game plan all you want. But when you get in the game, a lot of it is making adjustments,” Johnson said. "We’re not efficient in anything

And this is the thing… I feel it’s the reverse of last year. Last year we started games slowly under Moore and then adjusted. This year the scripted plays feel alright and then it goes down hill fast.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That DB was off AJ…so it was longer developing route against that coverage. I’m adding it’s taking longer for AJ this season.

Watch the video....lol.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That DB was off AJ…so it was longer developing route against that coverage. I’m adding it’s taking longer for AJ this season.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tqFrUT3UWeA

https://www.giants.com/video/cor-dale-flott-intercepts-jalen-hurts-and-returns-it-68-yards-giants-vs-eagles-highlights

As you can see here AJ was open very quickly. He was further downfield than Dotson and was open pretty much right away with leverage.

Really the route he ran was the usual hot route vs a blitz. It is the easy one to see. The easy one to throw. AJ was open pretty much instantaneously. It was a very quick developing route.

Bad QB play.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"You can game plan all you want. But when you get in the game, a lot of it is making adjustments,” Johnson said. "We’re not efficient in anything.” Sirianni points to three-and-outs as an issue. The Eagles led the NFL in three-and-out rate — they were committing three-and-outs at the highest rate in 20 years entering the game — and they had three more drives without a first down on Thursday. Johnson thought predictability was a problem. "Last two weeks, you kind of know what it is: You know when the pass is coming, you know when the run is coming,” said Johnson, who still pledged confidence in offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo. "Moving forward, we’ve got to do a better job of that.” A.J. Brown acknowledged

You are so obsessed with hurts that you can’t see the forest for the trees. This is a whole team problem right now. Everyone is contributing to that problem. You desperately want to ignore Hurts’ contribution, but he is absolutely part of the problem … making his own individual contributions to the larger team short fall. Similarly, Lane is part of the problem, as is Mailata’s, Dickerson, Steen, Jurgens, Goedert, AJ, Devonta, Dotson, Goedert, the coaches and the whole Defense. It exists at the team level and needs to be fixed by the whole team working together.

Interesting post in another thread.

23 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I'd say 1/2 of the internet Jalen Hurts fans are only fans of him because he's "cool". That type of fan doesn't realize that being critical doesn't mean you hate the player. They just can't comprehend that the cool guy might not be as good as they think.

Jalen Hurts for as good as he is, still has weaknesses in his game.

16 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Interesting post in another thread.

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On 10/12/2025 at 3:08 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

IMG_2165.jpegNotice how in every known football source(except Acho) Out route is a crisp sharp cut straight outside. Not Dotson’s sloppy half moon arc bringing the DB into position.

Who said?

1 hour ago, capmaster24 said:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tqFrUT3UWeA

https://www.giants.com/video/cor-dale-flott-intercepts-jalen-hurts-and-returns-it-68-yards-giants-vs-eagles-highlights

As you can see here AJ was open very quickly. He was further downfield than Dotson and was open pretty much right away with leverage.

Really the route he ran was the usual hot route vs a blitz. It is the easy one to see. The easy one to throw. AJ was open pretty much instantaneously. It was a very quick developing route.

Bad QB play.

Looking at these videos...you can see AJ running the route with intensity waiting to get the ball. A few routes earlier in the season he definitely ran slower without intensity, acting like he knew he wasn't going to get the ball.

This play absolutely looked like it was for him or Goedert, seeing the safety come up, im sure he expected the ball.

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