Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

https://youtu.be/guSWhksXVbQ?si=szhbTZU1Gv_gnEbz

Look at all these bad mistakes. Hard to believe this guy ever kept a starting job anywhere.

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is Patrick Mahomes elite?

Yeah. They traded his best receiver and then he won a Super Bowl.

Let’s trade AJ Brown and see if Hurts can do the same.

But I’m the guy that clearly understands why those that don’t understand or appreciate all it takes to be such a leader of men question Hurts. A subject I’ve so extensively addressed explaining and tried to educate most here about for years now.

1 minute ago, Lambo said:

Yeah. They traded his best receiver and then he won a Super Bowl.

Let’s trade AJ Brown and see if Hurts can do the same.

Mahomes relied on an all time great O mind coaching him this whole time. Began his career with the top WR in Cheetah and arguably the best TE ever. He never really learned all what’s going on as much as just relying on that chemistry. He just mostly relied on Kelce to do it all for him and just draft getting the ball to Kelce after.

4 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Yeah. They traded his best receiver and then he won a Super Bowl.

Let’s trade AJ Brown and see if Hurts can do the same.

His best receiving target has completely enabled him to do so much of what he’s done….Travis Kelce. How did he beat us n that SB? Opening drive script by AR worked to perfection. Then Mahomes himself got them off track for a couple of drives. Go into halftime where it’s such an easy educated guess that AR just convinced Mahomes to stick to the easy script the all time great O mind laid out for him. Then he completed every pass and their O couldn’t be stopped. That whole second half only two of those passes were even remotely contested in coverage by our D. Who was Mahomes throwing to? Travis Kelce, Travis Kelce while also mixing in Travis Kelce. Yeah JuJu caught a couple of passes also.

Sorry you misunderstood the Chiefs situation this whole time. But I’ll give you benefit of the doubt by receiver you strictly were speaking about WRs. Of course the Chiefs drafted Worthy on the first. Brought in Hollywood a first round WR. The speedster that got suspended also.

12 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Yeah. They traded his best receiver and then he won a Super Bowl.

Let’s trade AJ Brown and see if Hurts can do the same.

only because of Hurts AJ became an Eagles in the first place I will note.

12 minutes ago, Lambo said:

Yeah. They traded his best receiver and then he won a Super Bowl.

Let’s trade AJ Brown and see if Hurts can do the same.

Who did Rosie land that offseason of all the WRs he attempted to lure? Rosie struck out..on every single option. Draft positioning dictated we had to trade up to draft that WR need. Like the Saints did to grab Olave. After Rosie failed to fill that team need…then Hurts went and had a workout with AJ. Right after AJ ended negotiations with the Titans completely. Do I need to go through the rest?

Where does a QB or any player really gain his knowledge of the game? Main source would be from coaches, right? Mahomes has shown real struggles learning and just doing what he’s clearly being taught and coached…from the best. Where as Hurts man difficulty has been stemming from Siri actually choosing to neglect spending that time and effort. Siri just focused on week one of season one over long term franchise QB development. Siri had Kelce could do perform the duties of reading the D and calling protections. Siri’s O is like every thing Siri approaches…one step thinking. Skipped over coaching. Every other actual legit O scheme the whole O should be reading the D and adjusting reacting accordingly. Under Siri it was flat run this route regardless. What are we talking? Like a dozen plays was the entire playbook.

Siri made the decision to skip coaching Hurts until Kelce retired. But Siri wasn’t the guy when then to do it. Was Moore and Coach Doug. Did you notice our whole O changed? Entire O unit read the D and adjusted accordingly.

Mahomes has the best resource to rely on with AR his entire career. Yet he’s really actually struggled picking it up. Heck that season he beat us in the SB…the Chiefs really struggled that regular season. Sure losing the Cheetah affects things. But the real struggle was Mahomes coach-ability. That entire period AR was exhaustively tryng to coach Mahomes to develop. It was actually pretty brutal. Almost didn’t make the playoffs in fact mostly because Mahomes so very slow development. Fast forward back to that SB at the end was exactly laid out example. AR gave him the script which worked to perfection against Gannon completely loaded personnel top D. But Mahomes reverted for most of the rest of that first half. Halftime go to the locker room where AR gets his best moment to get through to Mahomes. What happened in the second half? Mahomes just actually went back to the initial script and gameplan laid on a platter for him by AR.

Mahomes is older than Hurts. Yet actually still really struggles with much of what #HurtsHaters bash Hurts about. But Hurts has been carrying the deadweight of Siri…while Mahomes had the best resource guiding him this entire time. Relied on the top speed WR to begin his career with a cannon arm…but really just throw a negative two yard pass to Cheetah and let his speed do the work even. Mahomes relied on unbelievably elite TE Kelce this entire time. Mahomes hasn’t been the hardest worker, most coachable …football expert.

Anybody in awe of Kellen Moore as the top alltime O genius? Yet just giving Hurts(really it’s a whole O unit together thing)…not even a great resource hire…just a decent…qualified O coach? Saw a leap greater than all Siri previous years combined.

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Hurts struggles reading the D was a slam beaten to death by #Hurtshaters. Hurts came to the NFL young. Different coordinator and O every year of college. So yeah…obvious results were Hurts focused on just learning that new O each season more than any other skills. Every QB needs big development reading NFL Ds. Drew Brees and others showed such great mastery of this skill well into their thirties. That’s under great very capable coaching.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Anybody in awe of Kellen Moore as the top alltime O genius? Yet just giving Hurts(really it’s a whole O unit together thing)…not even a great resource hire…just a decent…qualified O coach? Saw a leap greater than all Siri previous years combined.

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Hurts struggles reading the D was a slam beaten to death by #Hurtshaters. Hurts came to the NFL young. Different coordinator and O every year of college. So yeah…obvious results were Hurts focused on just learning that new O each season more than any other skills. Every QB needs big development reading NFL Ds. Drew Brees and others showed such great mastery of this skill well into their thirties. That’s under great very capable coaching.

So Siri one step approach and thinking actually chose and made the decision to not develop Hurts reading Ds. Siri nonscheme just proof that Siri doesn’t even get or understand all these crucial levels needed for an NFL O. Embarrassingly low use of motion. Playcalls getting to the huddle late in the playclock…leaving least possible opportunity for Hurts to even look over the D before running out of time.

It’s been Siri and Patullo this whole time running the passing game. Only exception being last season. Even that Siri got in the way stalling progress most of the season. So is it you guys belief some how that Hurts just doesn’t put in the work and slacks off is why he’s been slower developing in this area? I’ll clear that up on spot to get corrected if that’s anybodies misconception. Hurts has been as dedicated and focused on his craft and winning championships as any athlete ever.

Wow....the great Detroit #1 offense... only put up 17 in KC. All that great O mind there... 3 points less than the Eagles.

Seems like every season Hurts proves the naysayers very wrong. Under Siri and Patullo narrative was Hurts couldn’t read D for years. Then magically(only word to describe it according to #Hurtshaters opinions) last season Hurts took over blocking calls reading the D. Nonmagic reason being given the resource of Moore finally. Moore equipped Hurts with audible powers finally last season. Watch last season highlights…a third of the big plays were results of Hurts audible calls, because the playcalling actually wasn’t very good still.

Over and over this whole time I’ve been the only one that’s consistent. Siri and Patullo are way under qualified to run a pro O…a college O(truth actually keeps going lower and lower but I’ll skip that). Not just does Siri one step think everything and chose to neglect coaching Hurts needed skills…those two just aren’t even capable.

Mahomes older and still struggling with the same areas as Hurts. Mahomes isn’t a workout warrior. Mahomes isn’t nearly as dedicated to the craft. Mahomes not even all that mature an adult. Name a superior resource and O scheme to what Mahomes has been gifted his entire career.

Hurts I’m straight volunteering needed much development reading D coming out of college. Ultra coachable and dedicated hard working player. What’s he been given? Embarrassingly inferior. I don’t think any case can be made for Siri’s O being above worst in the entire league. There’s terrible at 31…a huge gap…then Siri.

Track record laid out of evidence is so extensive at this point. Was more understandable first season or two under Siri the misunderstanding or flat out blind denial. At this point it’s over and over again example after example of pure factual proof.

Has Hurts proven he could read the D, call the protection, audible and step up to be the best player on the biggest stage to prove he’s a pure champion? Only reason I even put a question mark is because of the #Hurtshater opinions right here.

All this isn’t me even just getting to understanding in hindsight. I’ve laid it out very thoroughly since year one of Siri. At 10-1 in 2023 everybody here was convinced we were the best unstoppable team and denied there was any problem. Well not everybody…one person was bashed as just being negative and wrong. How did things go after 10-1 start? Anybody here admit the answer of pretty much played out exactly what I was saying before it actually happened?

What’s the other consistent knock about Hurts? No Mas was dead set on Hurts would never lead us to a championship. That’s after he blasted Hurts as not worthy of being a starting QB.

I was the lone person here convinced moving to Hurts from Wentz.

Provide any person stating Hurts was our greatest ever franchise QB before I did.

But sure…deny our biggest weakness has been the O coaching, scheme, gameplan and playcalling. Stout is the man…no shot taken at him. Given the resource of Moore…even with Siri meddling and blocking development and progress so much…for a single season…undeniably proved my point this whole time. What did I say last offseason? I’ll provide the answer in case anybody reading wasn’t here for that. I wasn’t really high on Kellen Moore. Yet…he was such an upgrade my entire belief surrounding last season ceiling I laid out simply as depending on just how far we could get progressing with Moore.

How did I exactly predict and understand everything surrounded how far we could advance with Moore? How did all of the sudden Hurts proved all the haters theories wrong reading the D adding so much more responsibilities exactly last season under Moore?