24 minutes ago, mattwill said:

With his changes and improved OL play,

This is what I mean,is Toth a better C than Cam? Did we stumble onto something? Was it a one of? IDK, I won't speculate, but it just seems "interesting". Also Cam may not have been at 100% for quite some time. We'll know more after the bye

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This is what I mean,is Toth a better C than Cam? Did we stumble onto something? Was it a one of? IDK, I won't speculate, but it just seems "interesting". Also Cam may not have been at 100% for quite some time. We'll know more after the bye

Healthy Cam is better than healthy Toth. But Cam hasn’t been healthy.

From what I am reading, Baun did not celebrate with the team. Instead he went to the hospital to check on Skattebo. This is the culture I want

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Healthy Cam is better than healthy Toth. But Cam hasn’t been healthy.

IDK define "better". The run game got going with Toth, so unless Cam was injured to start the season, this was a better outcome for the running game since we started the season, We have a staff,they will decide,not me. I just found this very noteworthy. I believe this was Barks first week over 100 yards?(I mean THIS season before I get hammered on a technicality)

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Game wasn’t on on the West Coast. My comment was based on past Toth games, where his snaps have been erratic. I don’t rule out the possibility that he may have improved his shotgun snapping through reps. One of Toth’s greatest strengths is his intelligence and dedication to his craft. If you saw no bad shotgun snaps yesterday, I am delighted.

I didn't see any issues...I saw better blocking yesterday and Tank being difficult to tackle

I wouldn't make it too complicated.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to me

One pound is noteworthy?

28 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK define "better". The run game got going with Toth, so unless Cam was injured to start the season, this was a better outcome for the running game since we started the season, We have a staff,they will decide,not me. I just found this very noteworthy. I believe this was Barks first week over 100 yards?(I mean THIS season before I get hammered on a technicality)

The apples to apples comparison is 2024 Cam to this current Toth. In that comparison, Cam is better.

With that said, Toth really has only been working on Center for two seasons, so his development does bear watching

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I didn't see any issues...I saw better blocking yesterday and Tank being difficult to tackle

I wouldn't make it too complicated.

Fair enough

30 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

One pound is noteworthy?

No,the fact they are the same size is,for those who say Toth is "too small". And the "noteworthy" part is that the running game was successful with Toth

28 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Cam is better.

Once again define " better". The running game got going with Toth

Cam had back surgery in the offseason and likely wasn’t 100% coming into the season similar to Dickerson who wasn’t 100% and we have seen those signs.

The key is getting both of them and Lane back to 100% or as close as possible at least….

Didn’t really notice but who was CB2 this week maybe becuase they weren’t getting beat like a drum every snap lol

52 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Once again define " better". The running game got going with Toth

Asked and answered. The apples to apples comparison is 2024 Cam to this current Toth. In that comparison, the 2024 running game is better, and Cam is better.Younger, better physical measurables, more experience.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

believe this was Barks first week over 100 yards?(I mean THIS season before I get hammered on a technicality)

Yup first game for Saquon this season to reach over 100 yards…. And we even ended up getting Tank over 100 yards rushing in the same game.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to me

One thing you can be sure of with Toth

He has self discipline The Army tends to do that to you

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to me

Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No,the fact they are the same size is,for those who say Toth is "too small". And the "noteworthy" part is that the running game was successful with Toth

Yeah... watching the game it was all Toth...lol.

Just kidding ... but I will say... using a 6th OL...Fred Johnson, was a great way to counter the defense putting extra men on the line.

Or... maybe they made that one block that Mailata was talking about?

Or.. maybe it was the Giants?

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?

Could be both of their best cover guys were out...that's why the QB had good stats... you see what I did there.

Which btw... I agree that the Giants defense played a factor in the success of both the running and passing games. But also I will give the Eagles credit.

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Actually Toth weighs 1 pound MORE than Cam as shown on the roster and maybe it's coincidence, but we got our ground game back this week(or maybe there is more to this) I won't speculate, but it seems noteworthy to me

Toth didn't take a dump prior to that weigh-in.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Didn’t really notice but who was CB2 this week maybe becuase they weren’t getting beat like a drum every snap lol

Percentage of snaps played:

Ringo-81%

Nickerson-15%

McWilliams-13%

I can't help but wonder how different it may have been had Giants' WR Nabers played.

3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

This is what I mean,is Toth a better C than Cam? Did we stumble onto something? Was it a one of? IDK, I won't speculate, but it just seems "interesting". Also Cam may not have been at 100% for quite some time. We'll know more after the bye

Too early to tell.

1 hour ago, mattwill said:

Asked and answered. The apples to apples comparison is 2024 Cam to this current Toth. In that comparison, the 2024 running game is better, and Cam is better.Younger, better physical measurables, more experience.

Not really, we also had Becton at RG. Put Becton next to Toth if you want apples to apples

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could have been the terrible Gmen run D for decades have been a factor?

Then how did we get blown out 2 weeks ago?

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

One thing you can be sure of with Toth

He has self discipline The Army tends to do that to you

He at least solidified(for me) that we need to keep him around