Just now, joemas6 said:

Patullo...how can you design a play where Mailata slips...just awful design

There was a lot of slipping on that field

37 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lot of self inflicted wounds from our offense…. First drive hurts fumble, 2nd drive players slipping on the field on back to back plays. Mailata had a pair of terrible false starts in the game putting us in a hole…. Toth had a huge holding call later in the game that negated Barkley best run for a 1st down.

Overall Toth is doing better than i thought he would.

That was a hold but my guess it wouldn't have been called on a pro bowl center

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So when Hurts decides to give the ball to Barkley on the same play and he loses yardage...it's amazing how it then becomes " bad play calling" isn't it? Or when Fred Johnson completely whiffs on a block

.. or when Mailata slips...or when Hurts doesn't see an open Smith behind the defense... just amazing how Patullo all of a sudden can't call plays? QB draw was a perfect call before the fumble though on that first drive, but Patullo fumbled.

5 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

There was a lot of slipping on that field

Just bad play calling when you call for your player to slip.

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Overall Toth is doing better than i thought he would.

That was a hold but my guess it wouldn't have been called on a pro bowl center

Just bad play call there with that hold

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Just bad play calling when you call for your player to slip.

But Mailata executed the play perfectly

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

And the bad throws and fumbles and missed seeing open receivers...and bad decisions on RPOs... agree.

there's really no bright spot on the offense at this point.

although goedert did get me enough points for my fantasy team.

🤣

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you watch the TD reception by Smitty,you will see what I was talking about before. It was not a clean cut route, it was an arc, a timing route. As long as you are inside your defender it's very hard to defend. Not the clean break your diagram showed. I hope you can see what I mean now

For a former TE it’s really surprising how you don’t recognize or understand expectations on any route running. That wasn’t an Out Route. Why would you think it was?

8 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If you watch the TD reception by Smitty,you will see what I was talking about before. It was not a clean cut route, it was an arc, a timing route. As long as you are inside your defender it's very hard to defend. Not the clean break your diagram showed. I hope you can see what I mean now

Definitely have no idea what you are thinking or comparing

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

It was an ugly win due to poor, predictable coaching on the O. According to Smitty, his TD was something he, AJ, and Hurts schemed up. AJ should have drawn a DPI. GB has a good D, still no reason over this season for not being able to scheme AJ open. With the emphasis on ball safety, Hurts is not going to throw as many contested throws, where AJ excels when he's being used for more than a blocker or decoy. It used to be screens behind the LOS on long ydg drove me nuts. Now it's predicted runs up the gut.

Stinks it’s come to this..but feels like it’s going to be up to the players

44 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For a former TE it’s really surprising how you don’t recognize or understand expectations on any route running. That wasn’t an Out Route. Why would you think it was?

Maybe I missed something but where did he say it was an out route?

Speaking of out routes with the Pack sitting on the out routes i have to wonder why the Eagles didn't call an out and go

I was simply saying the play calls were too predictable and non-aggressive. If the D knows ( heck, we all knew ) we were going to run it up the gut on 3rd and 11, they kept bringing the safety up and stopping that play. Patullo could have used that, repeatedly played it safe instead, giving up on the drive.

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Looks like one of the new guys on defense got us a turnover too. With yhe recovered fumble

You are correct. I’ll update the spread sheet and repost.

2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stinks it’s come to this..but feels like it’s going to be up to the players

I mean...the players play the game. Make better decisions, throws and don't fumble and it gets much easier

1 hour ago, mjkline1958 said:

I was simply saying the play calls were too predictable and non-aggressive. If the D knows ( heck, we all knew ) we were going to run it up the gut on 3rd and 11, they kept bringing the safety up and stopping that play. Patullo could have used that, repeatedly played it safe instead, giving up on the drive.

Play calls were not the reason Mailata slipped, Fred Johnson completely missed his blocking, Hurts fumbled or made any bad throws. Play calling was fine. Head coaching, game decisions at the end were questionable...and I think dumb. But players need to execute. Both offenses had issues with their players last night. Green Bay has the great O mind...doesn't mean squat when the players mess up

4 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Except that could easily be a pick 6 if that defender catches the ball. I'm not a fan of throwing through the defense

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Just bad play calling when you call for your player to slip.

Well neither team wanted to score because according to Ham that was the game plan ,so you have to be creative with your pre planned errors LOL

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Definitely have no idea what you are thinking or comparing

Yes I know you have no idea LOL

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stinks it’s come to this..but feels like it’s going to be up to the players

Isn't it always up to the players to execute??

2 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Maybe I missed something but where did he say it was an out route?

Never did, but it will reported I did into the year 2029 🤣 and could possibly follow me into the afterlife. At the pearly gates he will say "OH you ALMOST made it in, except when you called that out route" Then I will go to hell serving eternity as a Browns fan