1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Play calls were not the reason Mailata slipped, Fred Johnson completely missed his blocking, Hurts fumbled or made any bad throws. Play calling was fine. Head coaching, game decisions at the end were questionable...and I think dumb. But players need to execute. Both offenses had issues with their players last night. Green Bay has the great O mind...doesn't mean squat when the players mess up

Play calls are definitely a major part of the issue, have been all season. Waiting for a game where the plays are on the jumbotron before we execute them. Running up the gut not working, let's run it more - the very definition of insanity. I want a play caller that sees the problem and finds a creative solution, like involving our other weapons from the same formation once the D bites. Reality - what a concept - Robin Williams.

8 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Play calls are definitely a major part of the issue, have been all season. Waiting for a game where the plays are on the jumbotron before we execute them. Running up the gut not working, let's run it more - the very definition of insanity. I want a play caller that sees the problem and finds a creative solution, like involving our other weapons from the same formation once the D bites. Reality - what a concept - Robin Williams.

So Mailata slipped, Fred Johnson completely whiffed, Hurts fumbled and made bad throws because of the play calling?

4 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Play calls are definitely a major part of the issue, have been all season. Waiting for a game where the plays are on the jumbotron before we execute them. Running up the gut not working, let's run it more - the very definition of insanity. I want a play caller that sees the problem and finds a creative solution, like involving our other weapons from the same formation once the D bites. Reality - what a concept - Robin Williams.

SO what do you do when nothing is working? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I know I don't function as well at 20 degrees in a crosswind as I do at 80 with a breeze. It was the first cold/windy game. IDK that alot of risk was in order. Ball is like a brick at that temp. We saw the wind affect both QB's. I WAS hoping for some cheap, quick short stuff in the middle of the field . I saw they were vulnerable there over their LB's like to Ship or Geodert. We did a few after the 1/2. Could have done that more IMO . We don't do crossing routes which is easy grabs for most WR's so SMH but taking the W anyway

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

SO what do you do when nothing is working? I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I know I don't function as well at 20 degrees in a crosswind as I do at 80 with a breeze. It was the first cold/windy game. IDK that alot of risk was in order. Ball is like a brick at that temp. We saw the wind affect both QB's. I WAS hoping for some cheap, quick short stuff in the middle of the field . I saw they were vulnerable there over their LB's like to Ship or Geodert. We did a few after the 1/2. Could have done that more IMO . We don't do crossing routes which is easy grabs for most WR's so SMH but taking the W anyway

TBH I can't even tell you who was in the slot. I didn't notice because there were no balls thrown to him? I assume it was Dotson, but if you cornered me I couldn't tell you

If they're bringing in the S, it leaves someone or somewhere open. A good OC would take advantage of that.

pointing to last night's slips and falls, cold weather and false starts doesn't explain away the fact that they are ranked 23rd offensively to this point.

it's a combo of everything that could go wrong, going wrong.

• injuries

• playcalling

• execution (yes @cunninghamtheman, that includes hurts)

again though, they are 7-2, not 2-7. the record can't be ignored.

The Eagles are the first team to hold the Packers to seven or fewer points at Lambeau since 2018.

27 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

pointing to last night's slips and falls, cold weather and false starts doesn't explain away the fact that they are ranked 23rd offensively to this point.

it's a combo of everything that could go wrong, going wrong.

• injuries

• playcalling

• execution (yes @cunninghamtheman, that includes hurts)

again though, they are 7-2, not 2-7. the record can't be ignored.

I think we got lucky as they kept shooting themselves in the foot(we just did that a little less)

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I think we got lucky as they kept shooting themselves in the foot(we just did that a little less)

at the end of the day, i'll take ugly the wins, especially on 2/8/26. 🫡

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Fumble in the red zone is a bad fumble. Watching the play, I thought he went to the wrong side of Toth....who was pushing the block right, if he goes to Toth's left there were more yards to get... the defender (the 2nd one who was there on the right) made a very nice play on the ball. He wouldn’t have been there if Hurts went left. Also you could argue he should have had 2 hands on the ball and fell on his back or left shoulder instead of reaching his left hand out to break the fall.

It's a bad time to fumble...great play by D that Hurts could have done a couple things differently to avoid. Game is much easier from the sidelines without 11 guys looking to kill you...so only so much criticism we can give. But I dis think his error was not following the block correctly to avoid the defenders who made the play

14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Another thing... regardless of it being a " bad" fumble... the bigger thing, it was an excellent play call.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

pointing to last night's slips and falls, cold weather and false starts doesn't explain away the fact that they are ranked 23rd offensively to this point.

No but it does highlight a lot of what went wrong for us last night.

1st drive what like 17 plays and we are driving the ball should have walked away with some kind of points if not for the fumble that killed the drive.

2nd drive mailata slips resulting in a loss of yards then next play Saquon slips after catching a screen. The give up draw run to Shipley though I don’t understand and we did this numerous times put the ball in Hurts hands give one of our WRs a chance.

4th drive Mailata false starts puts us in a hole then we have a 21 yard Barkley run negated by a hold putting us even more into a hole before eventually having to punt.

End of half we just gave up which would be the areas of this game that I don’t like 23 seconds at least 2 timeouts might have had all three

Mind you we only had 5 drives the entire 1st half if you even want to count the 23 seconds at the end as a 5th drive….. 1st quarter both teams only saw the ball once before it ended.

Bark is still a blast to watch, That spin move was awesome

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No but it does highlight a lot of what went wrong for us last night.

i never said it didn't.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark is still a blast to watch, That spin move was awesome

There is a slow motion video...looks so smooth

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Maybe a better question would be was it due to poor ball security or just a good play by the defender

I'm going with choice B on this one

35 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Maybe a better question would be was it due to poor ball security or just a good play by the defender

I'm going with choice B on this one

I agree the wording of the question could have been better, but as it was posed, it created a lot of dialogue in three different threads. The rather open-ended wording resulted in two different kinds of answers. Some were more holistic, focusing on the impact of the fumble, and for that matter any fumble, on the course of the game. Others looked at the question from an individual play and individual player performance perspective.

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

37 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

Odd timing. Wish him the best.

41 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

Got to wonder if there is any compensation for the Birds if he hangs em up

4 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Odd timing. Wish him the best.

VERY odd timing

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree the wording of the question could have been better, but as it was posed, it created a lot of dialogue in three different threads. The rather open-ended wording resulted in two different kinds of answers. Some were more holistic, focusing on the impact of the fumble, and for that matter any fumble, on the course of the game. Others looked at the question from an individual play and individual player performance perspective.

I hope you realize cerebral answers like this will get you shunned here

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I hope you realize cerebral answers like this will get you shunned here

Joe and I have butted heads when I strayed into the overly cerebral. We came out of it shaking our respective heads, but with increased mutual respect. As Yul Bruner said, "It’s a puzzlement.”

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

VERY odd timing

Wonder if he(Lurie) can sue his agent for "non discolsure" and how in the world did he pass his Eagles physical? Obviously it harmed the Eagles who could have possibly signed someone else before the deadline