On 11/7/2025 at 10:33 PM, joemas6 said:

From a local Tavern ...

Which one did you have?

Hendrickson asking price dropped to a second round pick it’s been reported

12 hours ago, mattwill said:

If the Eagles win the SB this season and Hurts is the SB MVP for a second time, what does that make his trade value for a QB needy team? 3 First Rounders?

IDK that Hurts is going anywhere. I could see McKee being traded although I love the kid(man) if McCord steps in to the #2. For what price IDK. Due to the cap hit that would cause(Hurts) I doubt that is even being considered right now. Besides, the fans would go ballistic

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hendrickson asking price dropped to a second round pick it’s been reported

Glady would have cough up one of our 3's for him https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25286834-trey-hendrickson-trade-offers-reportedly-didnt-include-more-4th-round-draft-pick but I suspect we were one of the teams offering a 4th

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hendrickson asking price dropped to a second round pick it’s been reported

The deadline has already passed? Could be a nice FA pick up

42 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK that Hurts is going anywhere. I could see McKee being traded although I love the kid(man) if McCord steps in to the #2. For what price IDK. Due to the cap hit that would cause(Hurts) I doubt that is even being considered right now. Besides, the fans would go ballistic

The fans would indeed go ballistic, but neither Lurie nor Roseman make decisions based on the fans.

Now with respect to the Cap hit, below are the 2026 and 2027 Cap hit pages from Spotrac. $45 million of Dead Cap in a 2027 trade and $65 million in a 2026 trade. However, as we saw in the Phillips trade the Cap hit amount can be negotiated, with one or the other of the teams agreeing to assume more than the standard Cap hit amount. I can easily see Howie negotiating a trade in 2026 where the acquiring team picks up $20 million of the $65 million so that the net Eagles hit in 2026 terms is the same as it would be in 2027 terms.

In another thread the projections have been four 1st Round picks and even five 1st Round picks as the likely offers.

27 minutes ago, mattwill said:

The fans would indeed go ballistic, but neither Lurie nor Roseman make decisions based on the fans.

Now with respect to the Cap hit, below are the 2026 and 2027 Cap hit pages from Spotrac. $45 million of Dead Cap in a 2027 trade and $65 million in a 2026 trade. However, as we saw in the Phillips trade the Cap hit amount can be negotiated, with one or the other of the teams agreeing to assume more than the standard Cap hit amount. I can easily see Howie negotiating a trade in 2026 where the acquiring team picks up $20 million of the $65 million so that the net Eagles hit in 2026 terms is the same as it would be in 2027 terms.

In another thread the projections have been four 1st Round picks and even five 1st Round picks as the likely offers.

But why would you fix what isn't broken? To what end would you do this? Why not just draft a QB in round 1 when the time comes? Or maybe McKee takes over in time. Or McCord or someone else we draft. Let's recall Hurts was a round 2 pick

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Which one did you have?

Samuel Adams Octoberfest... lol. They also had some nice bloody Mary's but I had to drive so just 2 beers.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Samuel Adams Octoberfest... lol. They also had some nice bloody Mary's but I had to drive so just 2 beers.

I'm a lager guy but used to go to Oktoberfest in FL at the German- American club because they had Dunkel dark on draft. It came in a boot you wore around your neck

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm a lager guy but used to go to Oktoberfest in FL at the German- American club because they had Dunkel dark on draft. It came in a boot you wore around your neck

It would be cool if they would do this with an Eagles logo

31 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

But why would you fix what isn't broken? To what end would you do this? Why not just draft a QB in round 1 when the time comes? Or maybe McKee takes over in time. Or McCord or someone else we draft. Let's recall Hurts was a round 2 pick

I'm not advocating for or against. Simply detailing what the market parameters are.

With that said, there is one hypothetical scenario that Wharton MBAs would find intriguing to contemplate from an asset maximization perspective. That scenario exists if the Eagles front office believes they have two franchise QBs, Hurts and McKee. In that hypothetical reality, the four 1st Round picks they get from a trade of Hurts is significantly more assets than the one 1st Round pick they get from a trade of McKee. In addition the annual Cap cost for McKee is significantly less than the annual Cap cost for Hurts. Finally, the Dead Cap associated with a Hurts trade is significantly more then the Dead Cap (currently $0) associated with McKee. The Whartonites would put those parameters into a value maximization program and see what is spit out. In some ways it is remarkably similar to the situation they had with Wentz prior to trading him to the Colts.

That is a dispassionate answer to your question.

5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I'm not advocating for or against. Simply detailing what the market parameters are.

With that said, there is one hypothetical scenario that Wharton MBAs would find intriguing to contemplate from an asset maximization perspective. That scenario exists if the Eagles front office believes they have two franchise QBs, Hurts and McKee. In that hypothetical reality, the four 1st Round picks they get from a trade of Hurts is significantly more assets than the one 1st Round pick they get from a trade of McKee. In addition the annual Cap cost for McKee is significantly less than the annual Cap cost for Hurts. Finally, the Dead Cap associated with a Hurts trade is significantly more then the Dead Cap (currently $0) associated with McKee. The Whartonites would put those parameters into a value maximization program and see what is spit out. In some ways it is remarkably similar to the situation they had with Wentz prior to trading him to the Colts.

That is a dispassionate answer to your question.

Up to 4 now? Who in the world would give up those assets?

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Up to 4 now? Who in the world would give up those assets?

Some of the posters argued for 5, one more than 4. "Howie has said previously that every player has a price… except for franchise QB. If you have a franchise QB you know can start for you for a long time, then even 5 first round picks still isn’t enough. It’s not about whether or not Hurts is worth 5 1sts, it’s about where your team is at after you lose him" and "I would think even right now his value should be more than 3 firsts without knowing the intricacies of his contract. They just supposedly offered 3 firsts for a 30 year old DE. If he was superbowl mvp again his value would be so high to the Eagles no team would offer what that would take."

The answer to your question is "a QB-hungry team"

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Some of the posters argued for 5, one more than 4. "Howie has said previously that every player has a price… except for franchise QB. If you have a franchise QB you know can start for you for a long time, then even 5 first round picks still isn’t enough. It’s not about whether or not Hurts is worth 5 1sts, it’s about where your team is at after you lose him" and "I would think even right now his value should be more than 3 firsts without knowing the intricacies of his contract. They just supposedly offered 3 firsts for a 30 year old DE. If he was superbowl mvp again his value would be so high to the Eagles no team would offer what that would take."

The answer to your question is "a QB-hungry team"

Anyone that gives that up should fire the GM immediately and sell the team because obviously they know nothing. No one can estimate how good or bad Hurts would look with a crap O line and no round 1 players for 4-5 drafts. Which team(s) do you have in mind as trade partners? This is a Ham dream scenario

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It’s not about whether or not Hurts is worth 5 1sts,

It's exactly what it's about

So we went from 3 to 5 now? Unreal, make it 12 and it's a deal lol

It's hard for me to buy that Howie offered a 4th for Hendricks(possibly) but would give up 3 firsts for Garrett(rumor).

26 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Some of the posters argued for 5, one more than 4. "Howie has said previously that every player has a price… except for franchise QB. If you have a franchise QB you know can start for you for a long time, then even 5 first round picks still isn’t enough. It’s not about whether or not Hurts is worth 5 1sts, it’s about where your team is at after you lose him" and "I would think even right now his value should be more than 3 firsts without knowing the intricacies of his contract. They just supposedly offered 3 firsts for a 30 year old DE. If he was superbowl mvp again his value would be so high to the Eagles no team would offer what that would take."

The answer to your question is "a QB-hungry team"

Well who did you have in mind as a trade partner? 

I like McKee, always have been a fan. I suppose anything is possible. I just have no idea who would give up their future for Hurts

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well who did you have in mind as a trade partner? 

Asked and answered ... a QB hungry team. Just as Jimmy Johnson found a RB hungry team for Herschel Walker.

Just now, mattwill said:

Asked and answered ... a QB hungry team. Just as Jimmy Johnson found a RB hungry team for Herschel Walker.

Too general. We'd need to know which team(s). Every team that has a mediocre QB is hungry for a QB just like every year. Which round 1 picks, pick 5 or pick 30?

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm a lager guy but used to go to Oktoberfest in FL at the German- American club because they had Dunkel dark on draft. It came in a boot you wore around your neck

I had Wersteiner Dunkel on Halloween... im a fan of the German beers, especially in the fall.

47 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I'm not advocating for or against. Simply detailing what the market parameters are.

With that said, there is one hypothetical scenario that Wharton MBAs would find intriguing to contemplate from an asset maximization perspective. That scenario exists if the Eagles front office believes they have two franchise QBs, Hurts and McKee. In that hypothetical reality, the four 1st Round picks they get from a trade of Hurts is significantly more assets than the one 1st Round pick they get from a trade of McKee. In addition the annual Cap cost for McKee is significantly less than the annual Cap cost for Hurts. Finally, the Dead Cap associated with a Hurts trade is significantly more then the Dead Cap (currently $0) associated with McKee. The Whartonites would put those parameters into a value maximization program and see what is spit out. In some ways it is remarkably similar to the situation they had with Wentz prior to trading him to the Colts.

That is a dispassionate answer to your question.

No shot they get 3 first round picks for Hurts... let alone 4. ..lol

48 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I'm not advocating for or against. Simply detailing what the market parameters are.

With that said, there is one hypothetical scenario that Wharton MBAs would find intriguing to contemplate from an asset maximization perspective. That scenario exists if the Eagles front office believes they have two franchise QBs, Hurts and McKee. In that hypothetical reality, the four 1st Round picks they get from a trade of Hurts is significantly more assets than the one 1st Round pick they get from a trade of McKee. In addition the annual Cap cost for McKee is significantly less than the annual Cap cost for Hurts. Finally, the Dead Cap associated with a Hurts trade is significantly more then the Dead Cap (currently $0) associated with McKee. The Whartonites would put those parameters into a value maximization program and see what is spit out. In some ways it is remarkably similar to the situation they had with Wentz prior to trading him to the Colts.

That is a dispassionate answer to your question.

That's why Wharton doesn't belong in making football decisions

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I had Wersteiner Dunkel on Halloween... im a fan of the German beers, especially in the fall.

I like Grolsch with the cork pop top bottles. Tsing Tao from China and my regular go to is Rolling Rock(in latrobe PA). Most darks are too bitter for me but Dunkel is SMOOTH