7 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No idea how you never considered this factor ever? Opponents, as well as our own team, study the tape and prepare each game. Just basic football 101 once again.

Yes we all know that, no need to keep stating the obvious, but nothing leaps out at you the last 2 games we lost?(Joe already knows)

7 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Tell me what was different from the 8-2 start and the last 2 games

So, I will ask again

Big game in Ann Arbor on right now

7 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

So where is our short yardage GOAT hurts that just gets it done solo gone???? Been terrible this year at the tush push then fumbled against the bears(not to mention we were going to be short even if he didn’t fumble)

Let’s all just break that one play down and talk all about it. Say your peace now…get it out there. How many years have we given teams to look at and prepare for our one play The Brotherly Shove? You didn’t think the best D minds in the game of football all weren’t going to ever figure out way to deal with it did you? A factor I still believe is they must have the personnel to pull it off…no matter how broken down the counter blueprint is.

But look at the play and fumble. Just trolling …to really dig out Hurts on that fumble. No version anybody is trying to say Hurts was carrying it loose like a loaf of bread. So he clearly wasn’t just being careless…at all.

10 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Let’s all just break that one play down and talk all about it. Say your peace now…get it out there. How many years have we given teams to look at and prepare for our one play The Brotherly Shove? You didn’t think the best D minds in the game of football all weren’t going to ever figure out way to deal with it did you? A factor I still believe is they must have the personnel to pull it off…no matter how broken down the counter blueprint is.

Lmao 🤣 but Hurts is greatest short yardage runner ever you loved talking up his high success rate and how he was single handily doing it when it was successful but now all of a sudden it’s figured out…. Was just against the lions when you were talking how had to get it done in short yardage he the goat for him then to go like 0-6 after that play, now he fails again this week.

But if you want me to be serious on the play like I’ve said from the start it’s an OL play they decide if it’s successful or not just like the OL decides if Saquon is successful or not….And our OL has been dreadful all season consistently getting beat not blocking there guys.

You can watch the tush push and see we are not getting any push on the play…. You can look at the stat line of Saquon getting hit 50% of the time in the backfield… the OL is losing the battle in the trenches

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Lmao 🤣 but Hurts is greatest short yardage runner ever you loved talking up his high success rate and how he was single handily doing it when it was successful but now all of a sudden it’s figured out…. Was just against the lions when you were talking how had to get it done in short yardage he the goat for him then to go like 0-6 after that play, now he fails again this week.

That’s pretty typical about how the game works. Hurts and Siri had a fantastic run with The Brotherly Shove. They have dominated in short yardage at such a remarkable clip. We aren’t talking gaining a couple of yards on first down occasionally. Talking about dominating converting first downs and TDs. How long and how many times have they been doing this in the highest level of the sport? Against the best of the best…rode that play to the highest levels of two SBs…how many wins now?

But holdup…sticking to breaking down that one play and fumble that just happened.

Actually watch the play before responding to have any real input.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually watch the play before responding to have any real input.

Your a Fing clown 🤡 I did watch the play your boy fumbled got knocked out by bears #26…. But even without the fumble Hurts was still going to be short and not convert on the play….

Hurts been in the scrum. Not like he just pushes and instantly does some butt fumble. Should have been blown dead in my opinion. Forward progress stopped. Given improper extra time attacking and mauling our QB: sure the guy finally rips the ball out. No player can guarantee perfectly to shield and hang on to the football under those conditions with an elite NFL defender athlete just freely ripping at the ball while he’s being scrummed in by practically every single player on the field at once.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your a Fing clown 🤡 I did watch the play your boy fumbled got knocked out by bears #26…. But even without the fumble Hurts was still going to be short and not convert on the play….

Ok so what did you see with Goedert effecting and during the play?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your a Fing clown 🤡 I did watch the play your boy fumbled got knocked out by bears #26…. But even without the fumble Hurts was still going to be short and not convert on the play….

Call me names..when I wasn’t even really disagreeing with you about anything.

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Your a Fing clown 🤡 I did watch the play your boy fumbled got knocked out by bears #26…. But even without the fumble Hurts was still going to be short and not convert on the play….

So ok, how did the fumble happen from your viewpoint?

It took a real long time in a tight aggressive scrum with every player on the field all right there(maybe one or two guys not directly about it)

List any names of players impervious to fumbling that ball.

Hurts held on and protected it actually for a very long time in that situation. I’m saying Hurts didn’t fumble as quickly as most any other player would have. Most anybody fumbles it up within an acceptable pre-whistle time frame. Refs choked their whistles way too long…like you don’t see that ever with any other QBs that they protect so much.

14 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Ok so what did you see with Goedert effecting and during the play?

Goedert is right there behind Hurts pushing on that arm…while the defender has free shot at Hurts held up in humans scrum.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Goedert is right there behind Hurts pushing on that arm…while the defender has free shot at Hurts held up in humans scrum.

How could anybody hold on to the ball in that?

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So ok, how did the fumble happen from your viewpoint?

Doesn’t matter difference between me and you when the play negative I hold the player accountable….

Hurts got the ball ripped out he fumbled…. Saquon had the ball punched out last week from behind by Dallas he fumbled…

Making excuses for why it happens for what to make you feel better about Hurts

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

holding hurts jersey is pushing his arm got it but hey whatever excuses you need to not hold Hurts accountable what you do on all his turnovers anyway

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

holding hurts jersey is pushing his arm got it but hey whatever excuses you need to not hold Hurts accountable what you do on all his turnovers anyway

Fumble isn’t happening yet

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Fumble isn’t happening yet

That’s the photo when the whistle should have blown…at least by then even