1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s disobeying and disrespecting the coaches.

Lol... that's the job of the QB to audible out of a bad situation.   Wtf kind of QB do you want running the show.   A robot???  

You call a 6th blocker or a hot route...." that's disobeying the coach "???

Go watch the Eagles before Hurts...Foles and Wentz were calling these little adjustments almost every play. 

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Would you trade up for Dickerson or any " good " OT.   I would rather trade up for the stud G. 

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The HC and OC are paid and in charge. They should have earned that right to playcall and have the QB as an extension of themselves running their O.

And then when it gets down to where the QB has to adjust a route or a protection based on what the situation is and the defense is showing....the QB needs to finalize the play. 

Just now, EaglesAddict said:

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

Yes...the stud G we have. 

1 minute ago, EaglesAddict said:

Who is Dickerson?  I assumed you were talking about Landon.  

If we trade up for an OT, the idea is that he will be a very good player at a position where it's harder to find talent later in drafts.  Again, IOL you can find throughout the draft.  The best OTs are generally drafted in the top halves of Round 1.  

Again...do you want to find any interior OL...or do you want the stud.

If your argument is the guy you are hearing rumors about ...isn't a stud, then it's a different argument.  

But I will say...if that guy isn't a stud... I doubt we trade up for him if he is just going to be a  " good" G.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly that play between Hurts and AJ ended our game. Just needed a first down there. Needed to live to fight another play. 

With Elliott we weren’t that far from field goal range to tie it.

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... that's the job of the QB to audible out of a bad situation.   Wtf kind of QB do you want running the show.   A robot???  

You call a 6th blocker or a hot route...." that's disobeying the coach "???

Go watch the Eagles before Hurts...Foles and Wentz were calling these little adjustments almost every play. 

That’s coaching though right? Coach explains the expectation of with this playcalled situation against this D coach wants you to adjust in this way…with an audible or Hot Route. QB and WR should be understanding of the adjustment based on what the expectation was designated from the coach. 

What do coaches teach in the classroom in your mind?

With the 22nd pick I’m hearing we could trade up….but there is a chance we could trade back…a few rumored sources also have us staying at 22. So that’s exactly what we’ll do with the first pick of the 2024 draft.

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Frankly that play between Hurts and AJ ended our game. Just needed a first down there. Needed to live to fight another play. 

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s coaching though right? Coach explains the expectation of with this playcalled situation against this D coach wants you to adjust in this way…with an audible or Hot Route. QB and WR should be understanding of the adjustment based on what the expectation was designated from the coach. 

Do you need the coach to show Hurts how to tie his shoe too? 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

It wasn’t an audible so much. He and AJ just decided in that situation to chuck it deep to AJ. There was no second read on that. You’re missing the whole thing.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What do coaches teach in the classroom in your mind?

Apparently they need to teach Hurts stuff that high school QBs already do.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Do you need the coach to show Hurts how to tie his shoe too? 

What is it you believe a coach does?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It wasn’t an audible so much. He and AJ just decided in that situation to chuck it deep to AJ. There was no second read on that. You’re missing the whole thing.

Again...  Hurts decided... the QB decides.  Still even on this play you can't bring yourself to blame Hurts...it has to always be someone else... pathetic.  

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What is it you believe a coach does?

Wouldn’t he go through expectations and adjustments expected?

Just now, joemas6 said:

Again...  Hurts decided... the QB decides.  Still even on this play you can't bring yourself to blame Hurts...it has to always be someone else... pathetic.  

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

What is it you believe a coach does?

Shouldn't have to teach junior high level stuff.   I doubt any system in the NFL doesn't allow the QB to audible or tweak a minor change on any given play after reading the defense.   

You are making this simple thing very complicated...basically telling me that you think Hurts football IQ is very low.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Nah.  Hurts and this guy.. this guy and Hurts. 

Hurts is the QB... he.adjusted a route...that's perfectly fine.  The WR absolutely has to be aware of the adjustment.  Absolutely fine too.

But the QB reads the field and makes the decision where to throw.    That's all the QB.   That's your boy's mistake.  Nobody else. 

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The audible was great ... the problem was the QB had tunnel vision.   The deep route adjustment by AJ opened up the whole middle of the field for the dump off pass to Gainwell.   Great call there pre snap... poor decision on where to throw the ball.

The QB needs to work on basic QB stuff... why is it difficult to understand?    He made an audible...the right one... just didn't see or chose to throw to the wrong guy.  Either way a mental issue...but he can run though...most combined this or that. 

The play change was one option chick it to AJ to save our season. What are you not getting here? There was no third fourth and fifth options. Chuck it up to our best player to come down with to bring our O out of the funk that had smothered us. That was the playcall change Hurts and AJ came up with it on the fly in that moment. 

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve blamed Hurts the whole time on this play. Wasn’t what was needed right there. You could just feel AJ and the teams frustrations with the playcalling come through in this desperation moment. Everything came to a head in this last ditch moment to basically save our season.

Well...continue to stick your head in the ground and ignore all the reports about people being upset with Hurts...just blame the coaching 💯.    Do your bro...much respect ...at least you are dying on that hill.

4 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Shouldn't have to teach junior high level stuff.   I doubt any system in the NFL doesn't allow the QB to audible or tweak a minor change on any given play after reading the defense.   

You are making this simple thing very complicated...basically telling me that you think Hurts football IQ is very low.

It is simple basic stuff. In the classroom coach goes over the different scenarios and what changes or adjustments he wants to make the situation successful. 

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

The play change was one option chick it to AJ to save our season. What are you not getting here? There was no third fourth and fifth options. Chuck it up to our best player to come down with to bring our O out of the funk that had smothered us. That was the playcall change Hurts and AJ came up with it on the fly in that moment. 

That was a route change...for one of the 5 targets.   That's not am entire play call change.  Do you know what the other 4 targets did differently on that play after the audible was made...by HURTS alone?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Well...continue to stick your head in the ground and ignore all the reports about people being upset with Hurts...just blame the coaching 💯.    Do your bro...much respect ...at least you are dying on that hill.

So show me links to these so I can understand then

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It is simple basic stuff. In the classroom coach goes over the different scenarios and what changes or adjustments he wants to make the situation successful. 

So your QB is too stupid to adjust on the field?  He needs hours of classroom sessions to understand they are sending an extra guy,bring a 6th man into protection??  Really?

Again...I keep coming back to where you have a very low opinion of your QB's mental ability.