29 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You just so bent on not holding coaching, gameplanning and playcalling accountable. It’s all up to QB1 to automatically constantly just overcome all these every play every game. Gotcha!

Nah.. just make the basic junior high audible of tweaking protection or a hot route.  According to you, he did it vs Seattle...so we know he is capable. 

Howie loves to move up,then trade back down,picking up a better asset than he gave up on the up move. He can do this multiple times and gather more assets in a stacked draft and he's good at it. I still Like DeJean too. He is probably the best immediate fit, but Arnold has more potential IMO. But we also know Howie has difficulty taking a DB unless there is totally no question he is the BPA when we pick. It would have to be overwhelming in my view for Howie to go DB. Fuega is the best G to T option if you want a 2 fer. Barton is the best G if that's all you are looking for. I would try for Feuga 

34 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Ok, you phrased the question "would you", as in, present tense, lol.  And no, I would not have traded up for him during the draft that we obtained him.

Yes...present tense. Dickerson is a stud.  Arguably our best player.    

So my point... if we can get a stud at RG....absolutely better than just getting a " good" OT.    

The stud G are very rare though...I Agee that I wouldn't trade up for many of them 

48 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

With zero tweak from the mental midget you say plays QB. 

I suggest you find another team to root for Hurts hater.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I suggest you find another team to root for Hurts hater.

I want Hurts to be good....because I'm an Eagles fan.   Not a 7 year old kid worshipping my hero that can do no wrong! 

He needs work on the mental aspect....but he can run.  That's facts! 

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I suggest you find another team to root for Hurts hater.

I believe Hurts is mentally capable of making a simple audible.  You seem to believe he isn't...without " sessions " in the classroom?  

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I want Hurts to be good....because I'm an Eagles fan.   Not a 7 year old kid worshipping my hero that can do no wrong! 

He needs work on the mental aspect....but he can run.  That's facts! 

You’re worse than what the enemy fans say about our team. I haven’t even run across a cowboys fan go so far as to call our leader "a mental midget.”

24 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t think this gets it done though really. I wouldn’t move back that far just for that if I was the Broncos 

What about if you were Denver ...trading Surtain for pick #3?

I also read where 67% of our picks are guys we visited with,so......

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why can't he replace Lane....in time and be the RG in the MEANtime? It's like getting 2 players with 1 pick

Not saying he can't...just saying that in the little bit I've read about him, he seems like he'd be a better RG than RT.  And if he starts out at RG and flourishes, it may be tough to move him and we'll be drafting another OT in Round 1 next year.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You’re worse than what the enemy fans say about our team. I haven’t even run across a cowboys fan go so far as to call our leader "a mental midget.”

You are worse with your opinion so low of his mental capacity....that you don't think he is smart enough to make a tweak at the line. 

1 minute ago, EaglesAddict said:

Not saying he can't...just saying that in the little bit I've read about him, he seems like he'd be a better RG than RT.  And if he starts out at RG and flourishes, it may be tough to move him and we'll be drafting another OT in Round 1 next year.

And then you have your future studs across the line....why is that a bad thing?  Either way you need 2 players.   Why not get 2 studs? 

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

With zero tweak from the mental midget you say plays QB. 

Hurts hating!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts hating!

Yes....you hating on Hurts mental ability.  I agree...don't be so tough on him 

4 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

Not saying he can't...just saying that in the little bit I've read about him, he seems like he'd be a better RG than RT.  And if he starts out at RG and flourishes, it may be tough to move him and we'll be drafting another OT in Round 1 next year.

Fuega is a RT,one that could use more snap counts. The way to get him more snap counts is to start him at RG(which we need anyway since that position could be in flux). That's basically 2 players with 1 pick is all I am saying. I don't believe we had Fuega in for a visit however, and as I just posted odds are on the guys we had in. PLus while he is at G you can add strength(although he doesn't lack there) and teach him the refinements of the T spot he usually plays. I watched film of where they had him at G on short yardage run plays

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Fuega is a RT,one that could use more snap counts. The way to get him more snap counts is to start him at RG(which we need anyway since that position could be in flux). That's basically 2 players with 1 pick is all I am saying. I don't believe we had Fuega in for a visit however, and as I just posted odds are on the guys we had in 

I think it's the kid from Alabama 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

And then you have your future studs across the line....why is that a bad thing?  Either way you need 2 players.   Why not get 2 studs? 

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I think it's the kid from Alabama 

IDK what experience he has a G or if he played there at all. Fuega has played both and there are nuances.

2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

In a draft many claim is stacked with the most G/T prospects 

2 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

Is there a stud RG at 22?    And again.. I don't think we would trade up for just an ok OT or ok G.   

3 minutes ago, EaglesAddict said:

That convo is built on the premise of trading up in Round 1 and giving up one of our 2nds.  If we took a stud RG at 22, then OT next year, fine.  But giving up a 2nd to trade up in this draft to get what would turn out to be a RG is a bad use of resources.  Was saying if they do that, it better be for a guy that they know will be the RT at some point.

You could probably get Latham and Beebe without moving. Then you have Lanes replacement and your starting RG. The again you'd be wasting a 1 pick on a player who won't play so which is the waste of resources?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Is there a stud RG at 22?    And again.. I don't think we would trade up for just an ok OT or ok G.   

Barton is the best G(Duke) IMO(at 22),but we also had Beebe in. Beebe would be a round 2 but IMO is fully capable of handling the RG duties

I saw.. trade up with Seattle.    Then trading the 16th pick plus 53 to Denver... Denver gives those picks to NE for pick 3 to take their QB... we get Surtain. 

There are reports we are talking with Denver.. I highly doubt it's simply to move up to 12 to take an ok or good OL.

So just for me,if I move up for an OT,it should be a OT who can play G until Lane retires since it would cost me 2 picks to get him,he should cover those 2 positions to be of value

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Barton is the best G(Duke) IMO(at 22),but we also had Beebe in. Beebe would be a round 2 but IMO is fully capable of handling the RG duties

Barton isn’t a stud. He’s very versatile. High floor player that doesn’t have as high a ceiling is how most describe him,