6 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is valid I am hoping to see the passing game as more effective this coming season as we look to see if Hurts is the answer at QB

I get it, but to me it's the same stuff every year

The team goes with the running game and the defense.

Do we really expect " this is the year" with the passing game? It sounds similar to Dallas fans.

We know the big contract extension is the issue....$65 mil per is going to be the market rate for the next top paid QB. They love all the intangibles and are giving all the chances in the world, but we know they are business people first. Option B would allow a lot of money to be spent elsewhere, that's the decision I don't think they want to face until after they take care of locking up the CBs.

Perhaps the performances of Smith and Hunt come into play. Maybe Ojomo too.

Would be awesome to keep that all whole if they all step up. But can't do it with a $65 mil per contract on the books.

Also you have to think they would prefer to get value in return. So lot to think about BOTH WAYS!

34 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I get it, but to me it's the same stuff every year

The team goes with the running game and the defense.

Do we really expect " this is the year" with the passing game? It sounds similar to Dallas fans.

We know the big contract extension is the issue....$65 mil per is going to be the market rate for the next top paid QB. They love all the intangibles and are giving all the chances in the world, but we know they are business people first. Option B would allow a lot of money to be spent elsewhere, that's the decision I don't think they want to face until after they take care of locking up the CBs.

Perhaps the performances of Smith and Hunt come into play. Maybe Ojomo too.

Would be awesome to keep that all whole if they all step up. But can't do it with a $65 mil per contract on the books.

Also you have to think they would prefer to get value in return. So lot to think about BOTH WAYS!

I just view it this way. Hurts has to show the CAPBILITY of a passing game and/or he is a threat to take off. And I don't mean the 2 yard OOB scampers to the sideline running 12 yards horizontally for a 2 yard gain, the OLD Hurts, the one that could turn a busted play into a 40 yard gain, you know a REAL run threat. Where did that Hurts go? If he is bad at both, teams will just hone in on our run game making us 1 dimensional which is what every defense tries to get the other team to do, become 1 dimensional. If Hurts is selling out again and not going to run and his passing is sub par, it really let's the other 52 down. For me, as a professional you never give up on a play until you hear the whistle. For me also that includes practice. If you practice wrong, you're going to play wrong. If you want to be perfect, you need to have perfect practices which we know both are an illusion but the ultimate goals. Like I stated when I was in bands, you practice until you can turn in perfect practices. There are no fans at band practice, you have to critique yourself and those around you, make suggestions, plug the holes, make the changes you need to. Only then are you ready to perform at a high level. Anyone who quits or goes 1/2 assed at practice will do the same when the stage is set. If you practice wrong, you will play wrong. I don't care which day of practice it is, you come to hone yourself and your game. Allowing yourself to play like crap and letting it slide, just means you have no desire to be the best at your craft. And while some days you may not improve, you should never be satisfied with going backwards. We all know Hurts succeeds because of the insane players Howie goes out to get through drafting or FA. Having a great running game should never excuse a QB from wanting to be in the top 10, not 19/32. Hurts did so much damage by running, got paid, then quit doing it. OK, if you're NOT going to do that, then I don't want to see missed opportunities missing WIDE OPEN guys downfield. If you gave up on the reason you were paid, you best show me your worth in another area. We watched Hurts "not see" WIDE open guys many times. If he's "OK' with those in practice, he will be "OK" with those in real time. If you can't take advantage of freebies, you are leaving not only yards on the field, you are leaving psychologicals on the field too. You have to BURN the other team for mistakes made, not let them go. As most said it's very early, so NP but I don't want to see practicing badly and accepting that as the norm. Bad practices lead to bad play when you need it. Hurts was AWESOME at the flag 7 on 7 "pro bowl" (which has now turned into to a bigger joke than it was before). I was labelled names because I demand my QB play to his ability and improve(as I do every other player), not because I spend busloads of money to put the best players around him to "COMPENSATE" for lack of improvement. At some point my QB should improve AT HIS POSITION. If I don't see that, he's not going to get another contract. I'm not going to pay QB 19/32 as if he was a top 10. RUN, PASS, do SOMETHING besides "mediocrity" and If I am Howie he should demand that right now. No, I'm not going to panic, but every day is 1 day closer to week 1. To be fair, I did not see the play, perhaps it was a bad call by the writer or he read it wrong, that happens so IDK, but I also watched in horror with everyone else, as guys waved their arms downfield WIDE OPEN and Hurts not even seeing them in real games. That's HORRENDOUS for a QB. "I need to do better" is old now and it's been repeated on loop too often. If you still need to say this after 6 years you have not improved. Hurts needs to be the lead on the field with steadfast perfection, not the same old mediocre we're used to. It's year 7 not year 2. Sorry for the essay. Rant over

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

I get it, but to me it's the same stuff every year

The team goes with the running game and the defense.

Agreed, but Howie should not have to pay 55 million per for a less than top 10 QB. Handing the ball off is BU money, I need to see proof you're worth 55 million when the ball goes topside. Not seeing guys wide open downfield is LESS than BU money. SHOW ME THE MONEY

"They don't know if it's a pass or run. ... It's been fun so far," Mailata said. "There's a lot more to it than I thought an offensive coordinator could bring to the table."

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

"They don't know if it's a pass or run. ... It's been fun so far," Mailata said. "There's a lot more to it than I thought an offensive coordinator could bring to the table."

Our O guys are just blown away by how they break from the huddle, line up and the D actually has to figure out what play we are running. Huge step!

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"They don't know if it's a pass or run. ... It's been fun so far," Mailata said. "There's a lot more to it than I thought an offensive coordinator could bring to the table."

Entire time under Siri Mailata being previously only from Rugby didn’t realize why football players huddle up and call plays.

16 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Agreed, but Howie should not have to pay 55 million per for a less than top 10 QB. Handing the ball off is BU money, I need to see proof you're worth 55 million when the ball goes topside. Not seeing guys wide open downfield is LESS than BU money. SHOW ME THE MONEY

That contract is done, the question remains on the next one for the next level of market value. This is the reason why BG and Joe are talking about the passing game.

1 minute ago, capmaster24 said:

That contract is done, the question remains on the next one for the next level of market value. This is the reason why BG and Joe are talking about the passing game.

I am also. We don't know if he's going to make a side deal where he's not running again. Like I said any BU can hand the ball off. I need to see a reason to pay you highly. Didn't see anything like that last year

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I am also. We don't know if he's going to make a side deal where he's not running again. Like I said any BU can hand the ball off. I need to see a reason to pay you highly. Didn't see anything like that last year

$65 mil, I don't think any "side deals" for 2026 matter.

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I am also. We don't know if he's going to make a side deal where he's not running again. Like I said any BU can hand the ball off. I need to see a reason to pay you highly. Didn't see anything like that last year

Here is my thing. I don't need to see anything. I'm not paying him.

I think they win with the defense and the running game. I've been saying he will QB for 2 more years.

Reason=

A great passing 2026... he gets the new contract. A bad 2026, they may look to unload him.

But a mediocre year...which i expect from the passing game. I think they postpone any decisions. Run it back 2027, let the guaranteed money run out. And then make the decision. Which I think will be that he won't get paid.

My reason... our ELITE OL for years has been the key reason for offensive success. Going into 2028... what happens to Lane, Dickerson, Mailata?

Who will be here? And on top of that, who will be here to play elite and be the key through another high paid QB contract?

I don't see it. They will need to have new OL.. and if they lock in the QB to that big money long term, then they will have to draft and develop ALL of them if they also are paying the core of the defense.

I think Howie is going to want flexibility to maybe go get some free agents on the OL. Or maybe keep some more defensive guys?

The flexibility of not paying a QB and possibly getting draft compensation also... that's probably what he sees that would be needed to keep the franchise going. Otherwise he will have to believe that Hurts can carry a mediocre roster... which seems less likely if he doesn't run at that high level into his 30s.

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Here is my thing. I don't need to see anything. I'm not paying him.

I think they win with the defense and the running game. I've been saying he will QB for 2 more years.

Reason=

A great passing 2026... he gets the new contract. A bad 2026, they may look to unload him.

But a mediocre year...which i expect from the passing game. I think they postpone any decisions. Run it back 2027, let the guaranteed money run out. And then make the decision. Which I think will be that he won't get paid.

My reason... our ELITE OL for years has been the key reason for offensive success. Going into 2028... what happens to Lane, Dickerson, Mailata?

Who will be here? And on top of that, who will be here to play elite and be the key through another high paid QB contract?

I don't see it. They will need to have new OL.. and if they lock in the QB to that big money long term, then they will have to draft and develop ALL of them if they also are paying the core of the defense.

I think Howie is going to want flexibility to maybe go get some free agents on the OL. Or maybe keep some more defensive guys?

The flexibility of not paying a QB and possibly getting draft compensation also... that's probably what he sees that would be needed to keep the franchise going. Otherwise he will have to believe that Hurts can carry a mediocre roster... which seems less likely if he doesn't run at that high level into his 30s.

Agreed

2 hours ago, capmaster24 said:

$65 mil, I don't think any "side deals" for 2026 matter.

He didn't earn 55 million last year. He let everyone down by not running when he could have. Failure to produce will mean other teams aren't going to pay him either

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He didn't earn 55 million last year. He let everyone down by not running when he could have. Failure to produce will mean other teams aren't going to pay him either

That's his problem

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Jalen Hurts is the 12th highest paid QB.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalen Hurts is the 12th highest paid QB.

Let me just point out there are 32 NFL teams starting QBs. Deshaun Watson just a couple mil next below Hurts. Watson not worth it clearly. But that’s basically irrelevant. Getting near half the starting QBs  are paid what Hurts is paid….11 paid more.

    The way I look at that is real simple NFL salary. That’s just starting QB pay. 

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Jalen Hurts is the 12th highest paid QB.

Personally I easily make the case nobody deserves to be paid more than Jalen Hurts.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Personally I easily make the case nobody deserves to be paid more than Jalen Hurts.

MVP runner up. Best franchise Qb ever. Pretty much can’t win at all without him. But…his NFL record is nothing short of absolutely elite. SB MVP. Lead our Eagles every single year to the playoffs. Outstanding character and person. Dedicated professional that works hard always….doesn’t matter if it’s offseason. Hurts instantly communicating and involved leading any player as soon as they come on board.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

MVP runner up. Best franchise Qb ever. Pretty much can’t win at all without him. But…his NFL record is nothing short of absolutely elite. SB MVP. Lead our Eagles every single year to the playoffs. Outstanding character and person. Dedicated professional that works hard always….doesn’t matter if it’s offseason. Hurts instantly communicating and involved leading any player as soon as they come on board.

Is Hurts prioritizing fame? Is Hurts demanding individual statistical success? Has any player ever been more focused on winning…especially targeting goal being win championships. After second season…not some older 26 year old College player…opposite…younger than most. 

Pull up Hurts quotes about him being upset concerning his individual glory stat production after a win. After winning the SB in an O that could have produced all time statistical numbers…instead Siri sabotaged the O from thriving. Did Hurts demand a trade? Or did he smoke a cigar accomplishing what he priorotizes? Team winning…especially becoming champions. Hurts criticized endlessly over Siri stunting O stat success. Hurts knew he would be. Make another player that is willing to take that heat placing team over personal ego?

Made AJ a champion. Brought him out of Tennessee…very low levels of being in important games. Nowhere near contending to consider being a champion. 

  That guy….right after winning the SB and becoming a champion….demands out. Totally focused on himself. Only cares about ego and fame. Opposite of Hurts….he’d rather team lose and not even make the postseason as long as he gets his.

I’m completely on the side of win…goal is shooting for championships. 

  On what planet is feeding ego loading up the stat sheet losing become the focus?