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That is why the rules are there about the guys being spread out all across the line

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

5 yards is substantial enough. It’s basically like Oline getting at off ball LBs to block them…more like.

not really, the kicking team is going to move first as they actually can physically see he catch... they will be attacking the blockers

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Q, Maddox and Slay. Slay I see as just another year  older and a downgrade from last season. Though he was injured to finish the year. Maddox pretty much the same. Have to figure Q takes some time learning the ropes…normal rookie stuff. But Q really can’t perform worse than Bradberry did last season.

Agreed,and maybe Dejean takes over(rook mistakes and all) if Slay can't do the job. IDK why we kept Bradberry. He really was bad

My point about angle of pursuit….Ceedy Duce is terrible at it. He makes some interceptions. But not a quality tackler.

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4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My point about angle of pursuit….Ceedy Duce is terrible at it. He makes some interceptions. But not a quality tackler.

Right you are missing my point about the angle of attack difference on D as opposed to kick offs. The only guys that would have an angle of attack on the returner are maybe the 4 closest ones and even then that is' only 5-8 yards so not alot to work with there as opposed to having 30-40 yards to angle with

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm looking at the overall big picture. We can argue about position to position and hopefully Hurts won't be a bonehead and he won't be tied down with CRAP play calls

It was the 7th ranked O last season. Are the expectations for you it will be number 1? Or what here? The O won several games in the last minutes last season. But I do think we can hopefully have expectations of less turnovers as an improvement source.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Whats the difference if the kick goes straight into a blockers stomach? If the blocker doesn’t move…in fact he can’t move…”to avoid touching.”

I don't think you are getting the fact of where the blockers are positioned... the kick will still go over them.  They are exactly half way of where the ball is looking to get kicked, the exact apex of the kick.  It's a football... the kickers need to elevate the ball ... you tell me where you have seen a ball travel 60 yards without going over 10 feet in the air?  It's not a soccer ball, you need elevation to kick it 60 yards.   The regular squib kick won't work here.  They need to land the ball in the red zone... they can't miss short, better to miss long and put it in the end zone.  Ball is going to clear the blockers, not go in between them.  

It's great to have this imagination... but you are making things way too complicated.  The kickers now will absolutely look to kick the ball and land it near the goal line, but just short of it.  Not anywhere close to hitting the blockers, even if you give them tennis rackets to hold up. 

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If all 3 are neck and neck then that means we can go 1-1 or 2-0? I'm looking for a nice blow out win in Brazil to kick things off because we are going to RATTLE Love if these young guys step up. We need to show the league that 11th ranking is BS

We are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. They are already entrenched in theirs. Believe the Pack were the youngest team last season. So I’m not on the side of planning on betting my house on us winning week one.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It was the 7th ranked O last season. Are the expectations for you it will be number 1? Or what here? The O won several games in the last minutes last season. But I do think we can hopefully have expectations of less turnovers as an improvement source.

I'm hoping we can go top 5. Even 5th would be good. That rests on Hurts. bark should ease his(Hurts) "panic" runs some. Using Goedert correctly will also helps Hurts. Paris/Ainias in the slot will also help. Even if the D is "as good"(or bad) as last year we should still be better overall

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Rookies like we have why are their rookies better than ours?

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are implementing new schemes on both sides of the ball. They are already entrenched in theirs. Believe the Pack were the youngest team last season. So I’m not on the side of planning on betting my house on us winning week one.

The schemes last year didn't even exist LOL ANY scheme is better than the zero we had last year. And now teams have NO IDEA what we come out with

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

So if we're "neck and neck" with GB we lose automatically???

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You brought up their weakness of run D. I pointed out drafting arguably the top LB should matter…plus the other drafted defenders. You pointed out Saquan. 
  So I just pointed out our shotty looking run D…and they have RB Jacobs.

Why would the top LB matter more than the top CB we got in?

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Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Why would the top LB matter more than the top CB we got in?

I mean overall isn't that a wash?

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We snuffed some good RB's last year why would that be worse now?

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I didn't way we'd see it, I said I would LOVE to see it. He has the size and strength to shut Watson down. So I guess I have higher hopes than you

Actually I brought up Watson specifically predraft as a reasoning I could sign off on drafting DeJean. But can’t ignore experience all together. DeJean has to get there. I’m optimistic on DeJean…but always strive to be realistic.

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1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We snuffed some good RB's last year why would that be worse now?

The problem was we snuffed those good RB's and teams were forced to throw,against our bad secondary which was basically a GIFT to them LOL

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually I brought up Watson specifically predraft as a reasoning I could sign off on drafting DeJean. But can’t ignore experience all together. DeJean has to get there. I’m optimistic on DeJean…but always strive to be realistic.

If you are drafting guys due to fear of ONE guy,you are drafting wrong

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No matter the POINT is there is NOT enough distance to get an angle of attack,there is just NOT

Why I said it is what it is…we clearly disagree on the importance of angle of pursuit involved in the KO coverage. Just not going to change my opinion very likely on that.

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually I brought up Watson specifically predraft as a reasoning I could sign off on drafting DeJean. But can’t ignore experience all together. DeJean has to get there. I’m optimistic on DeJean…but always strive to be realistic.

And BTW it was LAMB you feared pre draft LOL

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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why I said it is what it is…we clearly disagree on the importance of angle of pursuit involved in the KO coverage. Just not going to change my opinion very likely on that.

LMFAO no we don't disagree,it's just my point goes over your head

22 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Better yet there IS NO angle of attack in 5 yards NONE

Those are blockers…not the returner. Just going on and on over such a basic fundamental. 

19 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So no matter where the returner goes the players that are far away and can have an angle of attack cannot get there in time to make a difference unless they run 2 second 40's Once they DO get there the only play is a block in the back because they are already behind the returner get it?

No…I absolutely don’t and won’t ever get it…

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9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why I said it is what it is…we clearly disagree on the importance of angle of pursuit involved in the KO coverage. Just not going to change my opinion very likely on that.

OK lets make it extreme. You are standing 3 feet away from me. I have no angle of attack because there is not enough room to do it. Now you stand 5o feet away and I can now im[plement an angle of attack because I have the SPACE to do it. It's not hard to grasp

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1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No…I absolutely don’t and won’t ever get it…

Obviously

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