18 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The numbers change after tons of signings next offseason if Parsons waits it out all offseason. But his statement was more to start next offseason. So it might get there eventually…by TC or something. But I’m not seeing it to start next offseason.

I'm not seeing it to start next offseason either...because Dallas has shown being too stupid to figure out to do it right away.    They seem to like the contract drama....and then eventually set the market anyway.   

I absolutely believe Parsons gets his 5th year option exercised before any long term deal is made.  After stating the 40 mil #... you know he will milk Jerry for it.  Why not....Jerry has given in every time.  

When Dickerson signed his deal... i remember the contract expert on here making a big deal about it.    I said it at the time no big deal... the Eagles are ahead of the market and it will be a bargain very soon.  They did it early so the cap hits will be low.

Watch how Dallas guys ...because of Jerry waiting... get the huge cap hits.  The kind that handcuff a team...for years at a time...not just 2019. 

25 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The numbers change after tons of signings next offseason if Parsons waits it out all offseason. But his statement was more to start next offseason. So it might get there eventually…by TC or something. But I’m not seeing it to start next offseason.

Btw... no signing should change anything for Parsons... his $40 mil # is his idea for the pay for the best defender in the league...which he feels he is.   So as we both stated before not being able to come up with anyone else to set the market....none of these other deals will matter.  Parsons isn't going to settle..especially after being forced to wait.

See ...you read between the lines one thing...my interpretation was..." Jerry you make me wait, that's ok...because I will make you pay" 

Cowboys have  65 mil compared to our 8 mil in cap space in 2025. Cowboys have 181 mil compared to our 27 mil in 2026. So they have much more room to afford to do it than us. We’ll see how it all shakes out in the end.

19 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again.... JJ $35 mil per as a WR...pretty significant jump.   What was the highest WR before JJ?   Look at that jump.... use the same % for a jump from Bosa and see where it lands near $40 mil.  Now you can imagine the genius Dallas team looking to get a cheap 5th year option from Parsons...what would that be ? In the teens??   So let's say they do his deal starting in 2026... why so difficult to imagine it being around that $40 mil number? 

JJ demanded top of nonQB number. Parsons demanding top of nonQB number. JJ leaped Bosa 34 to 35. So logic would dictate Offering Parsons 36 to leap JJ. Right there in both statements was directly top paid nonQB. That’s to begin next offseason. As I’m not seeing any other players breaking the JJ threshold this season. Believe Chase and Lamb only possible players to do so. Don’t think either breaks 35 mil per.

13 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Btw... no signing should change anything for Parsons... his $40 mil # is his idea for the pay for the best defender in the league...which he feels he is.   So as we both stated before not being able to come up with anyone else to set the market....none of these other deals will matter.  Parsons isn't going to settle..especially after being forced to wait.

See ...you read between the lines one thing...my interpretation was..." Jerry you make me wait, that's ok...because I will make you pay" 

My reading between the lines is Parsons wanted to wait. You think he wanted to sign before Jefferson? Parsons mindset the whole time is he’s going to make him pay regardless. I actually am not seeing the number change between now and beggining of next offseason. Looks set already to me.

The big number actually was the guaranteed number for Jefferson. That number was the monster. That’s where Parsons and Lamb should be GUARANTEED cashing in.

Tyrion Davis-Price, Britain Covey, Ainias Smith, Kenny Gainwell, Isaiah Rodgers, Will Shipley, and John Ross all took KR reps.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Tyrion Davis-Price, Britain Covey, Ainias Smith, Kenny Gainwell, Isaiah Rodgers, Will Shipley, and John Ross all took KR reps.

First open media KO return practice witnessed.

Jalyx Hunt flattened Fred Johnson today!

I think Milton could push for the third string RB  job over Gainwell. On merits anyway. Siri will have Gainwell as second string most likely to start the season though. Unless Moore gets the say over Siri on matters.

 

Milton has better vision than Gainwell. Can be a more powerful runner than Gains. Has that burst that Gainwell just never has possessed. Not to dog on Gainwell as much as just pointing out how good this undrafted Rb is we obtained. Coming from Georgia playing RB I could see things clicking quickly for him.

Says he rushed for over 4K yards in high school with 70 freaking TDs.

RB Milton is a big kid at 6’2” 230 lbs. strong blocker. Only real knocks on him I’ve read from scouting is durability concerns over his power rushing style and doesn’t have elite breakaway top end gear.  What else could you ask for in a backup RB? Much less undrafted.

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Cowboys have  65 mil compared to our 8 mil in cap space in 2025. Cowboys have 181 mil compared to our 27 mil in 2026. So they have much more room to afford to do it than us. We’ll see how it all shakes out in the end.

Cowboys don't have Lamb, Parsons or Dak signed yet.... our guys are locked up.   They don't have much room at all.

But... as we seem to go through this exercise every year due to your disdain for the Eagles GM...  ( not simply good enough for you to say he had questionable drafts and tries to control too much) you have to try to down play the one thing he is good at... so round and round for another year...I'll simply leave you with this.... let's see which team will have the ability to spend on free agents...the Eagles or Dallas.  

Let's pay attention...starting now.  For every move each team makes let's keep score.   In reality it won't be difficult because it will be one team making significant free agent or trade moves. 

 

41 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

My reading between the lines is Parsons wanted to wait. You think he wanted to sign before Jefferson? Parsons mindset the whole time is he’s going to make him pay regardless. I actually am not seeing the number change between now and beggining of next offseason. Looks set already to me.

Parsons had no choice... because Dallas isn't set up to give him anything yet.  And they can't do him before Lamb.

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

The big number actually was the guaranteed number for Jefferson. That number was the monster. That’s where Parsons and Lamb should be GUARANTEED cashing in.

The guarantee number isn't really significant at all...because they will redo Jefferson after 2026 anyway. You keep missing this fact because in your mind you can't get past the new contract finishing as is. 

It's why sign early...because you redo early the next cycle.  Why do you think Smith wasn't phased by the media asking him if he was upset about his contract after everyone else got their deals....he knows the Eagles will be giving him new money way before the contract ends.  Just like they did with AJ.

I don't think you get this yet as you seemed so obsessed with APY and guarantee money that you miss how it’s all a manipulation.  

14 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Cowboys don't have Lamb, Parsons or Dak signed yet.... our guys are locked up.   They don't have much room at all.

But... as we seem to go through this exercise every year due to your disdain for the Eagles GM...  ( not simply good enough for you to say he had questionable drafts and tries to control too much) you have to try to down play the one thing he is good at... so round and round for another year...I'll simply leave you with this.... let's see which team will have the ability to spend on free agents...the Eagles or Dallas.  

Let's pay attention...starting now.  For every move each team makes let's keep score.   In reality it won't be difficult because it will be one team making significant free agent or trade moves. 

 

What you’re missing in this equation is I never said the cowboys are doing well with contracts at all.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The guarantee number isn't really significant at all...because they will redo Jefferson after 2026 anyway. You keep missing this fact because in your mind you can't get past the new contract finishing as is. 

It's why sign early...because you redo early the next cycle.  Why do you think Smith wasn't phased by the media asking him if he was upset about his contract after everyone else got their deals....he knows the Eagles will be giving him new money way before the contract ends.  Just like they did with AJ.

I don't think you get this yet as you seemed so obsessed with APY and guarantee money that you miss how it’s all a manipulation.  

I do think guaranteed money is a big deal

53 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

JJ demanded top of nonQB number. Parsons demanding top of nonQB number. JJ leaped Bosa 34 to 35. So logic would dictate Offering Parsons 36 to leap JJ. Right there in both statements was directly top paid nonQB. That’s to begin next offseason. As I’m not seeing any other players breaking the JJ threshold this season. Believe Chase and Lamb only possible players to do so. Don’t think either breaks 35 mil per.

I agree with your post regarding everything here except for one thing... I think the number from Parsons is closer to 40 than 36.   

The number Parsons is looking to pass is Bosa...that's the position.   Bosa ot his deal last year...2023... Parsons getting it in 2025...significant jump in the cap from 2023 to 2025... should be significant jump past the 34.   Just like JJ had the significant jump at his position. 

The focus for Parsons is not 2024 WR #...it's 2023 Edge #.  That's more significant of a raise due to the 2 year gap and the history of that position being paid higher than WR.

The jump for JJ being the highest paid non QB was more significant for him as a WR...Parsons should have a higher goal.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

I agree with your post regarding everything here except for one thing... I think the number from Parsons is closer to 40 than 36.   

The number Parsons is looking to pass is Bosa...that's the position.   Bosa ot his deal last year...2023... Parsons getting it in 2025...significant jump in the cap from 2023 to 2025... should be significant jump past the 34.   Just like JJ had the significant jump at his position. 

The focus for Parsons is not 2024 WR #...it's 2023 Edge #.  That's more significant of a raise due to the 2 year gap and the history of that position being paid higher than WR.

The jump for JJ being the highest paid non QB was more significant for him as a WR...Parsons should have a higher goal.

So you’re ignoring the words straight out of Parsons mouth? 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I do think guaranteed money is a big deal

Not when the deal gets redone half way through.  I'll look at the numbers and explain when the details come out. Much easier to understand when having the exact numbers year by year.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So you’re ignoring the words straight out of Parsons mouth? 

Which were?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So you’re ignoring the words straight out of Parsons mouth? 

Jefferson words out of his mouth were too paid nonQB. Not top paid WR. Same thing Parsons has in his head. If Chase busts through and gets 36 mil he’ll want 37. If Saige busts through to get 41 he’ll want 42. Jefferson and Patson are speaking the exact same words seeming to have the exact same thoughts. They don’t care about position. They both believe they are above being judged positionally(even though both positions are high paying). Both demanding top nonQB pay.