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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The main reason is the cap is going up.  That's why i laugh every time you complain about a couple million of dead money 3 years down the road. 

The concept that the cap is going up seems difficult for you to grasp.

Not really difficult at all to grasp that salaries will be rising along with the cap. How can you not grasp that It will cost more?

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Especially when you try and defend how we had a 4 win team in 2020 that we were footing the bill of dead money on our future teams for. Brilliant!

12 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The main reason is the cap is going up.  That's why i laugh every time you complain about a couple million of dead money 3 years down the road. 

The concept that the cap is going up seems difficult for you to grasp.

How much cap room does our team have in 2025? 8 mil right now. How about 2026?  Less than 30 mil. Seems and feels like it matters to me.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How much cap room does our team have in 2025? 8 mil right now. How about 2026?  Less than 30 mil. Seems and feels like it matters to me.

Are we trying to improve or just sell some tickets? I’m trying to improve and contend…to the fullest. But now you seem to be licking up and preaching the true Bronze Standard you labeled the best coach ever with mistakenly.

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The main reason is the cap is going up.  That's why i laugh every time you complain about a couple million of dead money 3 years down the road. 

The concept that the cap is going up seems difficult for you to grasp.

Did it matter to the 2021 Eagles? Totally hamstrung over those couple of dead millions down the road. 

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not really difficult at all to grasp that salaries will be rising along with the cap. How can you not grasp that It will cost more?

Do you expect the players salaries to decrease?

Denver Nuggets mascot makes 625K a year… I’m in the wrong business

 

30 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Do you expect the players salaries to decrease?

2014 top paid WR ten years ago was Dwayne Bowe at 11 mil. 2024 top paid WR Jefferson at 35 mil. Salary more than tripled. Shouldn’t that be factored in to the cap increasing?

Teams salary cap sure didn’t triple over the last decade. Didn’t even double.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

When did I ever say he was going to finish the contract? I said the team would have liked to have signed him to a longer term contract. Is there some way t you are disputing that fact?

Lol....if he isn't going to finish the contract....why does Minnesota prefer to sign him to a longer term?

Explain why....if they redo the deal after 2026.... why would it matter if he his current deal runs through 2028 or 2030? 

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not really difficult at all to grasp that salaries will be rising along with the cap. How can you not grasp that It will cost more?

But you can't grasp going from 35 to 40 million....the next guy to make a jump as the highest paid non QB?

We got motion on O …AND D coming this year. S been spotted rotating just before the snap fairly regularly. Q played Dime LB again today. Most surprising news so far. We just don’t have a LB that can do it.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Lol....if he isn't going to finish the contract....why does Minnesota prefer to sign him to a longer term?

Explain why....if they redo the deal after 2026.... why would it matter if he his current deal runs through 2028 or 2030? 

"Obviously, on their side of it, they always want deal to be shorter: as much money as possible and shorter, and ours, longer,” Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said. "That [wide receiver] position has gotten shorter in terms, which is a unique dynamic in the market.”

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"Obviously, on their side of it, they always want deal to be shorter: as much money as possible and shorter, and ours, longer,” Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said. "That [wide receiver] position has gotten shorter in terms, which is a unique dynamic in the market.”

Sounds like Kwesi agrees with me on this.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

How much cap room does our team have in 2025? 8 mil right now. How about 2026?  Less than 30 mil. Seems and feels like it matters to me.

Ok... so did the NFL come up with official cap numbers for 2025 and 2026?  I didn't see that...where was that official news ?   Because in order to be definitive... and have an absolute amount of cap space...like you just stated, obviously you need that exact cap figure.   

But you are intelligent enough to where I don’t have to mention this right?    That's of course before a final carry forward number and any adjustments between now and then.   But you speak with such authority about this definitive number?

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

But you can't grasp going from 35 to 40 million....the next guy to make a jump as the highest paid non QB?

What was the jump from Bosa to Jefferson? 34 to 35 mil

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

"Obviously, on their side of it, they always want deal to be shorter: as much money as possible and shorter, and ours, longer,” Vikings GM Kwesi Adofo-Mensah said. "That [wide receiver] position has gotten shorter in terms, which is a unique dynamic in the market.”

?????     I asked for you to explain.   

The Vikings redo the deal after 2026... why does it matter if the original deal ( as we all know the bs final numbers) why does it matter if it gets changed after 2026?

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so did the NFL come up with official cap numbers for 2025 and 2026?  I didn't see that...where was that official news ?   Because in order to be definitive... and have an absolute amount of cap space...like you just stated, obviously you need that exact cap figure.   

But you are intelligent enough to where I don’t have to mention this right?    That's of course before a final carry forward number and any adjustments between now and then.   But you speak with such authority about this definitive number?

Exactly why we must carry over money from this season. That’s what most don’t seem to be understanding here. 

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What was the jump from Bosa to Jefferson? 34 to 35 mil

Hmmm... let's think.    The market jumped from DE/ Edge.... the higher paid position historically.... to where a WR took over as the highest paid...when have we seen that recently before JJ where the WR was the highest paid non QB?

So when it gets to the next significant move... in reality it's Parsons jumping Bosa.   That's why I'm saying Lamb and Chase aren't the guys to reset anything...they will follow suit as WRs to JJ.  Right around that 35 mil..doesn't matter really if just under or over.  Because the next significant jump us going to be Parsons ... who plays a traditionally higher paid position. 

Why difficult for you to grasp?

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok... so did the NFL come up with official cap numbers for 2025 and 2026?  I didn't see that...where was that official news ?   Because in order to be definitive... and have an absolute amount of cap space...like you just stated, obviously you need that exact cap figure.   

But you are intelligent enough to where I don’t have to mention this right?    That's of course before a final carry forward number and any adjustments between now and then.   But you speak with such authority about this definitive number?

Thought you said a few mil in future cap didn’t matter just a little bit ago

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly why we must carry over money from this season. That’s what most don’t seem to be understanding here. 

What are the official cap numbers you have?   Official of course

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Thought you said a few mil in future cap didn’t matter just a little bit ago

The dead money 3 years down the road doesn't....if it's a few mil.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Hmmm... let's think.    The market jumped from DE/ Edge.... the higher paid position historically.... to where a WR took over as the highest paid...when have we seen that recently before JJ where the WR was the highest paid non QB?

So when it gets to the next significant move... in reality it's Parsons jumping Bosa.   That's why I'm saying Lamb and Chase aren't the guys to reset anything...they will follow suit as WRs to JJ.  Right around that 35 mil..doesn't matter really if just under or over.  Because the next significant jump us going to be Parsons ... who plays a traditionally higher paid position. 

Why difficult for you to grasp?

Think much of that is what I already stated myself. But five mil jump is significant without anybody being a stepping stone in the middle first. But think you might want to look at these WR contract growth again. Seems you aren’t grasping the WR position pay scale situation league wide. Just had a whole slew of WR grabbing bank this offseason.

The numbers change after tons of signings next offseason if Parsons waits it out all offseason. But his statement was more to start next offseason. So it might get there eventually…by TC or something. But I’m not seeing it to start next offseason.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think much of that is what I already stated myself. But five mil jump is significant without anybody being a stepping stone in the middle first. But think you might want to look at these WR contract growth again. Seems you aren’t grasping the WR position pay scale situation league wide. Just had a whole slew of WR grabbing bank this offseason.

Again.... JJ $35 mil per as a WR...pretty significant jump.   What was the highest WR before JJ?   Look at that jump.... use the same % for a jump from Bosa and see where it lands near $40 mil.  Now you can imagine the genius Dallas team looking to get a cheap 5th year option from Parsons...what would that be ? In the teens??   So let's say they do his deal starting in 2026... why so difficult to imagine it being around that $40 mil number? 

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