May 30, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, joemas6 said: not really, the kicking team is going to move first as they actually can physically see he catch... they will be attacking the blockers To avoid the blockers…you mean
May 30, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, joemas6 said: not really, the kicking team is going to move first as they actually can physically see he catch... they will be attacking the blockers Not helping your point as I see it….the opposite in fact.
May 30, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Those are blockers…not the returner. Just going on and on over such a basic fundamental. SO the blockers aren't going to tackle the returner?
May 30, 20241 yr Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: SO the blockers aren't going to tackle the returner? Who makes the tackle the kicker?
May 30, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Agreed,and maybe Dejean takes over(rook mistakes and all) if Slay can't do the job. IDK why we kept Bradberry. He really was bad Contract is the reason…cap wise he has to be post June 1st cut. What’s the date again? Hahaha…any day now will be fine by me.
May 30, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Who makes the tackle the kicker? Kicker has the best angle of attack
May 30, 20241 yr Author 2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Contract is the reason…cap wise he has to be post June 1st cut. What’s the date again? Hahaha…any day now will be fine by me. Yeah,no one will even trade a 7th for him LOL
May 30, 20241 yr 14 minutes ago, joemas6 said: I don't think you are getting the fact of where the blockers are positioned... the kick will still go over them. They are exactly half way of where the ball is looking to get kicked, the exact apex of the kick. It's a football... the kickers need to elevate the ball ... you tell me where you have seen a ball travel 60 yards without going over 10 feet in the air? It's not a soccer ball, you need elevation to kick it 60 yards. The regular squib kick won't work here. They need to land the ball in the red zone... they can't miss short, better to miss long and put it in the end zone. Ball is going to clear the blockers, not go in between them. It's great to have this imagination... but you are making things way too complicated. The kickers now will absolutely look to kick the ball and land it near the goal line, but just short of it. Not anywhere close to hitting the blockers, even if you give them tennis rackets to hold up. I think you are mistaking what I’m saying a bit. I’m just spitballing the types of attempts that can be made. A hard line drive that hits just inside the twenty would be a very difficult kick to field. But like you are pointing out…as I believe I am also…it has to go over the players first.
May 30, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Right you are missing my point about the angle of attack difference on D as opposed to kick offs. The only guys that would have an angle of attack on the returner are maybe the 4 closest ones and even then that is' only 5-8 yards so not alot to work with there as opposed to having 30-40 yards to angle with In case you haven’t noticed with every single reply I’ve made…I’m not agreeing at all with your logic on this. You’re expecting the return to be out to the 40 every time basically in your calculations…which isn’t my belief. Angle of pursuit is always a factor regardless.
May 30, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: I think you are mistaking what I’m saying a bit. I’m just spitballing the types of attempts that can be made. A hard line drive that hits just inside the twenty would be a very difficult kick to field. But like you are pointing out…as I believe I am also…it has to go over the players first. IDK that would be similar to a volleyball spike serve,except with your foot. Very difficult
May 30, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: In case you haven’t noticed with every single reply I’ve made…I’m not agreeing at all with your logic on this. You’re expecting the return to be out to the 40 every time basically in your calculations…which isn’t my belief. Angle of pursuit is always a factor regardless. From where is this so called angle of attack coming from on a kick off with guys spread out across a line? You also said they are "blockers" So who makes the tackle?
May 30, 20241 yr Author I assume the returner will move forward as our guys try to break through blocks to tackle him. How are they getting angles of attack after fighting off a block? How many yards do they have left to set that up?
May 30, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: I'm hoping we can go top 5. Even 5th would be good. That rests on Hurts. bark should ease his(Hurts) "panic" runs some. Using Goedert correctly will also helps Hurts. Paris/Ainias in the slot will also help. Even if the D is "as good"(or bad) as last year we should still be better overall Oline I see downgraded though. Saquan is an improvement over Swift…but Swift was a Pro Bowler last season. Parris, Ainias and Saquan …if we are being realistic…have concerns on the durability front. Can AJ and DeVonta be as durable as they were last season? Fairly large ask. But 7th to 5th isn’t a huge move upward even on the optimistic point of view.
May 30, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said: Oline I see downgraded though. Saquan is an improvement over Swift…but Swift was a Pro Bowler last season. Parris, Ainias and Saquan …if we are being realistic…have concerns on the durability front. Can AJ and DeVonta be as durable as they were last season? Fairly large ask. But 7th to 5th isn’t a huge move upward even on the optimistic point of view. You asked if I thought we were better 5th is better than 7th?
May 30, 20241 yr Author Just now, GreenbleedinNC said: Why can't bark be a pro bowler now with an better O line? RG still bothers me,I can't lie about that
May 30, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: The schemes last year didn't even exist LOL ANY scheme is better than the zero we had last year. And now teams have NO IDEA what we come out with There is some positive in any unknowns…much less how predictable we were. But everybody in the league has studied Fangio very heavily. He has a large track record that has been documented. Still isn’t what he creates from our personnel….so will be different some from his past. But guys need to learn and get on the same pages with all the different plays called…versus the opponents corresponding playcalls. Takes time. Just does. Year two, three …so on…be much further developed.
May 30, 20241 yr Author 3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said: Oline I see downgraded though. Saquan is an improvement over Swift…but Swift was a Pro Bowler last season. Parris, Ainias and Saquan …if we are being realistic…have concerns on the durability front. Can AJ and DeVonta be as durable as they were last season? Fairly large ask. But 7th to 5th isn’t a huge move upward even on the optimistic point of view. Hurts was kind of handcuffed with crap play calls why wouldn't AJ and Smith perform better with the handcuffs off? Add Goedert being used correctly also
May 30, 20241 yr Author 1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said: Hurts was kind of handcuffed with crap play calls why wouldn't AJ and Smith perform better with the handcuffs off? Add Goedert being used correctly also Hurts needs to make the reads and NOT JUST ONE
May 30, 20241 yr Author Hurts will have multiple weapons, same or better than last year. He could have multiple guys open too and he needs to make the reads. He won't have bubble screens to count on nor the tush push. It's on him as he constantly states . Now it's time to stop saying it and deliver
May 30, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, joemas6 said: It's great to have this imagination... but you are making things way too complicated. The kickers now will absolutely look to kick the ball and land it near the goal line, but just short of it. Not anywhere close to hitting the blockers, even if you give them tennis rackets to hold up. It’s all imagination because we haven’t seen it happen. But we are just spitballing ideas here. But I’m curious where you think the returners will be standing? In my mind the hardest kick to field would be the quirky hard linedrive kick that lands before the returner can catch it. Kicking into the endzone is penalized also. So I was clearly thinking of a line drive kick landing in front of the returner…instead of him catching it….being much more ideal.
May 30, 20241 yr 32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: So if we're "neck and neck" with GB we lose automatically??? I pointed to their experience with same coaching giving them the nod week one. But I probably lean towards just flat out having them as the team in front of us all together.
May 30, 20241 yr 32 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said: We snuffed some good RB's last year why would that be worse now? Arizona ran all over us..again and again and again…all day.
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