1 hour ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Yup it was just the Dems who were Buddy buddy with Epstein.

oh wait….

Bannon really is a grotesque creature

11 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

You could've stopped here. The rest was just another way of reminding everyone that he's from West Virginia but with extra steps.

Cuck-old  heav-an , West Vir-gin-ia,

Trump Dikkk Suckers, id-i-ot-ic  sin-ners

He is loved there, e-ven with his sleaze,

Dumb-ass orange man houn-ders, love to take the cheese.

Trum-per ghouls, sim-ply fools,

in the place they be-long,

West Vir-gin-ia, im-bred drama,

sim-ply fools, Trum-per ghouls

Thank you for your attention to this matter..

Someone in Denver

23 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Apparently you have problems reading your own charts that you post, so here it is again, but with more data points, and with lines drawn showing where Trump was president. Because apparently you think Biden was president in 2020......

Who was president from Jan 2017 to December 2020? Trump or someone else? Did spending go up or down during this time period?

Who has been president since January 2025? Trump or someone else? Has spending gone up or down since this time?

Bump for @Mike31mt

23 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

And here's another fun one for you.

2013 Q1 - Spending was 3.758 Trillion. 2016 Q4 spending was 4.175 Trillion. That's an increase of 11% under Obama.

2017 Q1 - Spending was 4.192 Trillion. 2020 Q1 (BEFORE the pandemic hits) spending was 4.866 trillion. That's an increase of 16% under Trump, in an even shorter amount of time!

So in Trump's first term, spending increased at an even faster rate than it had under that big government liberal Obama's 2nd term.

That's reality. Those are the facts. Trump has 0 interest in reducing spending and reducing the deficit. He's a big reckless spending politician just like the rest of them.

bump for @Mike31mt

Trump destroying the US economy one tariff at a time.

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that's just stupid and false.

3 hours ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Bump for @Mike31mt

Oh thanks for bumping to show that Bidens spending had absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic.

Is that what you're so hot after?

Trumps spending is pretty much right along the trend line

4 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

Oh thanks for bumping to show that Bidens spending had absolutely nothing to do with the pandemic.

Is that what you're so hot after?

Trumps spending is pretty much right along the trend line

Glad you finally admit that Trump continues to INCREASE spending as compared to your earlier claims.

1 minute ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Glad you finally admit that Trump continues to INCREASE spending as compared to your earlier claims.

I never said he's cut spending.

Do I agree with every single thing he's done? No

Is he orders of magnitude better than the Dems? Yes.

Do you agree with his attempt to restructure SNAP benefits?

Or should we only look at non-entitlement spending?

1 minute ago, Mike31mt said:

I never said he's cut spending.

Do I agree with every single thing he's done? No

Is he orders of magnitude better than the Dems? Yes.

Do you agree with his attempt to restructure SNAP benefits?

Or should we only look at non-entitlement spending?

Me: Well actually it was Trump that initially doubled down on the spending in response to the pandemic. And then Biden continued on with that increased spending and added more. And now Trump is going to continue on with that spending. Hence why we are projected to run $2 trillion deficits for the foreseeable future.

You: No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

Trump is very much so continuing that spending, as seen by the very charts you posted but apparently didn't understand.

"Is he orders of magnitude better than the Dems? Yes."

Once again:

2013 Q1 - Spending was 3.758 Trillion. 2016 Q4 spending was 4.175 Trillion. That's an increase of 11% under Obama.

2017 Q1 - Spending was 4.192 Trillion. 2020 Q1 (BEFORE the pandemic hits) spending was 4.866 trillion. That's an increase of 16% under Trump, in an even shorter amount of time!

5 minutes ago, Phillyterp85 said:

Me: Well actually it was Trump that initially doubled down on the spending in response to the pandemic. And then Biden continued on with that increased spending and added more. And now Trump is going to continue on with that spending. Hence why we are projected to run $2 trillion deficits for the foreseeable future.

You: No he's not. Youre skirting around the fact that Bidens spending was insane and unprecedented.

I just showed you the charts, Trump isn't continuing that.

Trump is very much so continuing that spending, as seen by the very charts you posted but apparently didn't understand.

"Is he orders of magnitude better than the Dems? Yes."

Once again:

2013 Q1 - Spending was 3.758 Trillion. 2016 Q4 spending was 4.175 Trillion. That's an increase of 11% under Obama.

2017 Q1 - Spending was 4.192 Trillion. 2020 Q1 (BEFORE the pandemic hits) spending was 4.866 trillion. That's an increase of 16% under Trump, in an even shorter amount of time!

That's totally disingenuous, Trump is not "continuing on with that spending", it's right on the trend line of the pre-pandemic spending, nowhere near what Biden spent which was 100% discretionary and not related to the pandemic at all.

Now you answer my question, where do we cut spending? Should we look at entitlements like SNAP?

Just now, Mike31mt said:

That's totally disingenuous, Trump is not "continuing on with that spending", it's right on the trend line of the pre-pandemic spending, nowhere near what Biden spent which was 100% discretionary and not related to the pandemic at all.

Now you answer my question, where do we cut spending? Should we look at entitlements like SNAP?

WTF are you talking about? Once again, here is the chart. This time I added the trend line of the pre-pandemic spending. The green line is the trend line of pre-pandemic spending. Our current spending is no where CLOSE to that line. So again I ask, WTF are you talking about? Our current spending is just picking up from 2024 Q4 and continuing on from there. Again, that's why we are projected to run 2$trillion deficits for annually for the next decade.

"Now you answer my question, where do we cut spending?"

I think I've answered this question numerous times. 1) get rid of social security, it is a ponzi scheme. 2) defense spending, which is bloated. 3) cut spending across the board in general. But if congress can't come to an agreement on where to cut, then take a % from every single department that balances the budget. We are going to run a $2 trillion deficit next year. We are waaaaay past the point of saying "what part of the budget needs to be cut". It ALL needs to be cut. And when we get to a balanced budget, then we can look at and go "ok maybe there's some areas where we need to increase spending and other areas we can trim to offset that". We aren't close to getting to that point yet.

Fed won't get key inflation data before next rate decision as BLS cancels October CPI release

CNBC

Fed won't get key inflation data before next rate decisio...

The BLS said it was canceling the release of the October CPI, leaving the Fed without a key piece of inflation data before it next decides on interest rates.

Straight from the "Covid cases will go down if we stop testing for it!" playbook

🤣🤣

@Phillyterp85 just a little edit to your earlier post ...

But if congress can't come to an agreement on where to cut, then take a % of their salary away every month until they do.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

@Phillyterp85 just a little edit to your earlier post ...

But if congress can't come to an agreement on where to cut, then take a % of their salary away every month until they do.

Heck I'd say just take away their pay all together.

On 11/21/2025 at 1:33 PM, Phillyterp85 said:

WTF are you talking about? Once again, here is the chart. This time I added the trend line of the pre-pandemic spending. The green line is the trend line of pre-pandemic spending. Our current spending is no where CLOSE to that line. So again I ask, WTF are you talking about? Our current spending is just picking up from 2024 Q4 and continuing on from there. Again, that's why we are projected to run 2$trillion deficits for annually for the next decade.

"Now you answer my question, where do we cut spending?"

I think I've answered this question numerous times. 1) get rid of social security, it is a ponzi scheme. 2) defense spending, which is bloated. 3) cut spending across the board in general. But if congress can't come to an agreement on where to cut, then take a % from every single department that balances the budget. We are going to run a $2 trillion deficit next year. We are waaaaay past the point of saying "what part of the budget needs to be cut". It ALL needs to be cut. And when we get to a balanced budget, then we can look at and go "ok maybe there's some areas where we need to increase spending and other areas we can trim to offset that". We aren't close to getting to that point yet.

He couldn't understand what an insurgency is in the other thread, no way he's going to be able to parse together charts and numbers lol

Who the hell is Fred?

Oh well there will be less of them over time

Are we great again yet?