3 minutes ago, Shalodeep said:

That hit knocked the pocket presence out of him too. Frank covered it up the best he could in indy and I thought he did alright there and probably should of got a second season there, but once he was thrown out the door there...well team...5 now?

The Indy exit had a lot more to do with Jim Irsay and the political climate of the time than his play, imo. 

1 minute ago, paco said:

20 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

I still wonder what damage the hit from Clowney caused.  He carried a toothless WR corps to 4000 passing yards in 2019.  Then got smashed in the brain box by Clowney.  And 2020 was a disaster.  That seemed to be the final nail.

I remember a brief shot of Wentz in D.C. on the sideline after just having thrown a pick. The look on his face was kind of a mentally deficient person which I know is not his normal state. So yeah, I think that shot by Clowney may have had a lasting effect.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Indy exit had a lot more to do with Jim Irsay and the political climate of the time than his play, imo. 

He still made some bad choices in Indy though, not choices one would expect from "the face of the franchise".

12 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Indy exit had a lot more to do with Jim Irsay and the political climate of the time than his play, imo. 

Irsay got the Colts' media to slander Wentz after he left, too.

"He had 27 TD and 7 INT, but he didn't play THAT well."

@eagle45doing victory laps

28 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

21 minutes ago, RLC said:

@eagle45doing victory laps

I think McDermott is a solid coach but his end of the game management was bad against the Texans. Houston had 3 timeouts and you are at the 3 yard line. Just run the ball 3 times and force Houston to burn the timeouts. Frankly could used a QB delayed run/draw 3 times forced Houston to burn all 3 timeouts and probably took more time off the clock. Houston won that game cause they had 7 seconds and a timeout to get themselves from 64 yards to 59 yards. With Fairbairn he probably makes the 64 anyway but if you run 3 times with cook who has a 4.1 yards per carry average that game or Allen (13.5) you probably gain yards an maybe just knocks them out of FG range after the punt. Instead you threw 3 straight times and got 0 yards with a Qb completing 30% of his passes 

 

Wentz had that meltdown in the last few weeks in Indy and they ended up missing the playoffs.   I think the last game of the season was win-and-in and he threw a couple picks and was terrible

Vikings, Commanders, Lions, and Falcons are dominating the NFC through Week 5.

What a freaking bizzaro Jerry Universe this is to start the season.

6 minutes ago, Iggles25 said:

Vikings, Commanders, Lions, and Falcons are dominating the NFC through Week 5.

What a freaking bizzaro Jerry Universe this is to start the season.

The Vikings, Commies, Falcons won't win their divisions. The cream always rises to the top eventually.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Vikings, Commies, Falcons won't win their divisions. The cream always rises to the top eventually.

Who do you think wins those divisions out of curiosity? With our defense, I'm struggling to see us on top atm. Falcons offense is firing on all cylinders with cousins now...vikings I kinda get lol 

17 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Vikings, Commies, Falcons won't win their divisions. The cream always rises to the top eventually.

Falcons lead their division at 3-2 and have tie-breakers over TB/NO. 

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

McKinney might be playing the best safety in the NFL this year, and CJGJ has been one of the worst. McKinney was the Eagles top target, but they bowed out after signing Barkley and Huff.

Remember when Howie traded up 2 spots to beat Baltimore to drafting Jordan Davis, and gave Houston a 4th, two 5ths? They could have just taken Hamilton.

10 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Remember when Howie traded up 2 spots to beat Baltimore to drafting Jordan Davis, and gave Houston a 4th, two 5ths? They could have just taken Hamilton.

Hindsight. We could’ve had Jefferson too but we took raegor instead 🙄

13 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Remember when Howie traded up 2 spots to beat Baltimore to drafting Jordan Davis, and gave Houston a 4th, two 5ths? They could have just taken Hamilton.

Who needs Hamilton when we have Brian Chalkins?

The reigning dive forward for an interception champ!

37 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The Vikings, Commies, Falcons won't win their divisions. The cream always rises to the top eventually.

The NFC is completely wide open. I don't believe in the Commanders, Falcons or Vikings, really. The 49ers are not playing well, the Rams are flailing, Dallas can't beat good teams, etc. The only team that really stands out is...Detroit.

It's a saving grace for the Eagles. If they can actually regain competence, winning the conference this year is an easy path. There are no great teams really league wide.

2 hours ago, hputenis said:

It rubs the lotion on its skin…

Is this accurate?

To try and be different, let me present some reasons for optimism coming out of the bye. Let's chalk this up to me still riding high after that Phillies walkoff. Or maybe just being high in general...

1. Getting AJ, DeVonta and Lane back. Honestly, if you had told me we would have missed AJ for 3 games, Lane for over 1.5 games and DeVonta for 1.25 games in the 1st 4, I'd have said 2-2 was the ceiling. I know it feels like forever ago, but the offense really clicked week 1 other than the turnovers (I get that's like asking how Mary Todd Lincoln liked Our American Cousin other than the ending). But week 1, we put up 410 yards, 25 1st downs, and 34 points. Week 2 we still put up 365 yards and 22 first downs without AJ, and 460 yards and 20 first downs week 3 without AJ and Lane/Smith for a chunk of the game. So, red zone efficiency and turnovers have been the issue, not moving the ball when we aren't injury ravaged. 

2. Red Zone should improve with AJ and hopefully better play calling. Here's a weird thought -- give the ball to Saquon in the red zone. Just try it out. Historically, we've been a good red zone team, and hopefully they can get back to that. Part of the red zone failures have been Nick's seemingly haphazard 4th down decision making. Hopefully it can't get worse.

3. Hurts has to stop turning it over this much, right? I still can't reconcile the guy from 2022 to the guy we see now. This is the one that I feel the least confident in -- maybe this is who Jalen is now. But hopefully he can be coached into taking better care of the ball. 

4. Cooper DeJean takes over for Maddox. Maddox has just been terrible at nickel. DeJean may be a rookie, but at least he'll bring effort and size to help against the run. 

5. Fangio's defense improved dramatically in Miami last year. Per Anthony DiBona on Twitter, Miami allowed 29.7 PPG and 382.5 yards per game in the 1st 4 games of last year. For the last 13 games, it became 20.9 and 301. We are allowing 24.0 and 365.8. Hopefully things show similar improvement. 

6. The NFC Sucks. Seriously, the conference is terrible and there is parity all around. I don't buy Sam Darnold becoming Dan Marino, and the Commanders really haven't played anyone. The scariest team is the Lions. And they're...the Lions.

7. The schedule. Cleveland, NYG, Cincy, Jacksonville. You have to win 3 of those. Then a tough 4 game stretch at Dallas, short week at home against Washington, at Rams, at Ravens. But the closing 5 games aren't bad at all, with the last 3 all division games (last 2 at home). 

 

 

 

@mattwill

Eagles 21

Browns 17

Bonus: Hurts throws two picks.