Off course the players like Siri, his practices and camp are the softest in the league and he has no credibility so it's not like he can even hold anyone accountable.

 

@mattwill

Eagles 31

Giants 17

Bonus: Saquon Barkley 2TDs

 

No way the Eagles lose tomorrow….Right?

 

 

8 hours ago, Westbrook#36 said:

5-time national champions Illini football?

4 of the 5 were 100 years ago or more.  The 5th one about 75 years ago.  

8 hours ago, jwill2420 said:

Chip Kelly and Nick Sirianni are complete opposite. Kelly’s problem wasn’t scheme or that he couldn’t play call his problem was he was a weirdo who couldn’t connect with his players or GM to save his life. Nick is a rah rah guy who can’t scheme or call plays but does get along with his guys (outside of Hurts of course) 

Part of Chips problem was scheme and his refusal to add a second napkin to his playsheet.

11 hours ago, eglz1 said:

Plus Chip was a horse's A$$. Siri has his issues but he doesn't seem like a horse's A$$.

@vikas83 I’m going to need a ruling 

Game day!

 

Giants 24

Eagles 18

Hurts interception late 4Q to seal the game. 

😔

 

Why wouldn’t a player hold out because they normally get what they want. Reddick is reporting Monday to the Jets and they are waiving his 12 million in fines lol.

Shocker is alive? Not as bad as the Colts guy or the Padres guys but yikes. 

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8 hours ago, jwill2420 said:

Chip Kelly and Nick Sirianni are complete opposite. Kelly’s problem wasn’t scheme or that he couldn’t play call his problem was he was a weirdo who couldn’t connect with his players or GM to save his life. Nick is a rah rah guy who can’t scheme or call plays but does get along with his guys (outside of Hurts of course) 

Yep…complete mirror opposites.

Chip brought a system, a philosophy, play-calling, etc…and he was terrible at connecting with players and GM-ing.  At the end of the day, at the NFL level, Chip proved he wasn’t even that good at what he was supposed to be good at.

Siri is the perfect inverse.  No real scheme, plan, play-calling…but supposed to be an EQ guy that gets along with everyone.  And, as we are learning, at the end of the day,  he’s really not very good at that either.

 

13 hours ago, 315Eagles said:

But what would make them think a QB draw on 3rd and 8 gets them 6-7 yards?  They call it with the intention it will get at least what is needed for a 1st, hopefully more.  

I think it's just more of Sirianni's press conference BS where he just says whatever because he doesn't want to really say anything.  Not sure if that's from him or Howie.

 

16 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

It absolutely doesn't make sense, but it explains why they would go with a QB draw on a 3rd and 8 in the red zone, rather than trying to pass for a first down.   They fell in love with the Tush Push, and Sirianni even said that its like having 1st and 9 on every set of downs.   That gives a window into their mindset, even if they aren't going to specifically say it out loud.   Reading between the lines, that's the meaning.  Their goal is not to get 10 yards, but 9.  It's ludicrous, and yet very real.

Yep.  This is why I hate the tush push.  It’s fantastic when you use it, like any other play, when the situation dictates.

But the Eagles reached a point where they started to funnel their offense into tush push situations, thinking they were outsmarting the rest of the football world.

3rd and 8?  Great, try to run your routes underneath the zone coverage that gets you to 4th and 1.5.  Or do your QB draw looking for 6.  They target just short of the sticks on 3rd down under the belief that they have a higher chance of extending the drive by attacking the defense just short of the sticks and then with a 4th down tush push.

What’s really fascinating though…if you want to be bold and build some of your offense around the tush push…throw it downfield every 3rd and 1 knowing you have a play that automatically sustains the drive on 4th and 1.  Why don’t they do that?

They use the tush push to congest their offense inside the sticks.  I think it’s backwards to look at the tush push as 1st and 9.  That’s minimal advantage.  I’d look at it as an extra down when you are at 3rd and 1.

 

 

32 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Siri is the perfect inverse.  No real scheme, plan, play-calling…but supposed to be an EQ guy that gets along with everyone.  And, as we are learning, at the end of the day,  he’s really not very good at that either.

He does, but our QB is handcuffing the offense.

I'm not advocating for keeping Nick, either. 

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Great day for sports teaching valuable lessons to us common folk.

-Alabama coach throws player down on the field to fake an injury. Side note. NCAA changed a 12 man penalty no less than 5 days after Oregon used it to their advantage, yet have done nothing for the growing number of players just falling over to get a timeout. What are the priorities of the NCAA?

-Texas students delay game by throwing trash on the field to overrule a crucial INT call.

-Reddick has all punishment for not honoring his contract waived so throw a fit and get what you want! 

I know this all sounds like get off my lawn stuff but it's a shame that people see this and think it's the right way of acting. 

-Reddick doe

27 minutes ago, Swoop said:

He does, but our QB is handcuffing the offense.

I'm not advocating for keeping Nick, either. 

Maybe I'm right, wrong, and/or crazy, but here's the coaching narrative and timeline I believe in.

1999.  Lurie goes out on a limb to hire a non-coordinator unknown (but from a great offense) in AR.  He hits it out of the park.  AR legitimately goes stale here and needs to reinvent himself before going on the all-time Mt. Rushmore of coaching.  That's on him.  When he's replaced, Howie and Lurie go for a shiny name in Chip, who is also a control guy with a comprehensive "I'm smarter than you" system.

Chip Kelly backfires.  He pisses off everyone on the management floor and in the locker room.  Lurie and Howie go for the aww shucks nice guy in Doug that everyone likes.

Doug catches lighting in a bottle and wins a SB.  But everyone figures out over time that he's no offensive genius.  His SB success led to him wanting to have more control...but Lurie and Howie might give prime AR/Belichek/or a Chip Kelly living up to the hype control...they sure aren't about to cede it to Doug Pederson.

Siri was hired because, like 2016 Doug, he was supposed to be a nice guy that wouldn't push back on Lurie and Howie.  But he was still hired to run the offense.  He tried to have a traditional/complex passing offense in 2021 with Hurts, who just wasn't ready for it.  Steichen took over, made them a running team, and had much more success.  Then Steichen gradually introduced more traditional passing concepts in 2022 with great success.  It's basically accepted at this point that Siri isn't going to be the one that runs this offense.  Steichen leaves in 2023, Brian Johnson takes over, and things went in reverse.

2024.  They need someone new to run the offense and it's established that it won't be Siri.  Kellen Moore is the best guy available.  

Amidst all of this, the QB is the common denominator.  I do believe Nick should not be kept and I'm not absolving him of blame (his blame is that he's not able to contribute in any meaningful way).  But I really do not think this has been his offense since mid 2021.  

I think Siri, Steichen, Johnson, and Moore have all passed the torch to each other as the custodian of this offense.  The common underpinnings that will not go away...they are not because Siri is still running the show...it's each coach realizing they need to make the same adjustments for the QB that has been under center (errr, or not under center) for all of them.

 

Pathetic from the jets tbh. 

56 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

If I were him, that’s something I would consider, tbh. 

1 hour ago, goeagles5039 said:

Why wouldn’t a player hold out because they normally get what they want. Reddick is reporting Monday to the Jets and they are waiving his 12 million in fines lol.

He still lost his salary for those games. 

Huff had a 5 game head start on Reddick and is only 0.5 sacks ahead. What a joke, Howie.

Are there any clauses in the trade other than trading him to an NFC team that could impact the return for the Eagles? There's literally no way for him to hit the required numbers for the Eagles to get a 2nd. I guess that's the risk you take with conditional picks being traded. I don't think anyone saw this long holdout happening. 

Well, the Eagles are alone in being scoreless in the 1st quarter, but they had company in the Patriots in not scoring a TD on their opening drive. Now the Birds hold that distinction all alone as well.

One of the things I like about Jared McCain is that he just does not care. He paints his nails. He gets hate, and he just does not care about that. Ive seen it before on the paul george podcast where players discussed it, and again in this video. Whereas I could see Caleb Williams crying in his moms lap over youtube comments about his nails, McCain reads them and laughs.

 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Is he coming up to the time when he would no longer get credit for the 2024 season if he didn't play?

Giants 23

Eagles 21 

 

Giants win on a walk off field goal after converting a fourth and long. 

1 hour ago, eagle45 said:

 

Yep.  This is why I hate the tush push.  It’s fantastic when you use it, like any other play, when the situation dictates.

But the Eagles reached a point where they started to funnel their offense into tush push situations, thinking they were outsmarting the rest of the football world.

3rd and 8?  Great, try to run your routes underneath the zone coverage that gets you to 4th and 1.5.  Or do your QB draw looking for 6.  They target just short of the sticks on 3rd down under the belief that they have a higher chance of extending the drive by attacking the defense just short of the sticks and then with a 4th down tush push.

What’s really fascinating though…if you want to be bold and build some of your offense around the tush push…throw it downfield every 3rd and 1 knowing you have a play that automatically sustains the drive on 4th and 1.  Why don’t they do that?

They use the tush push to congest their offense inside the sticks.  I think it’s backwards to look at the tush push as 1st and 9.  That’s minimal advantage.  I’d look at it as an extra down when you are at 3rd and 1.

 

The entire organization from Lurie all the way down to the players may be complete idiots.  I still find it hard to believe this is their philosophy.   

When they get to 3rd and 8 or something similar, I can't believe they are purposely trying to get 6 or 7 yards just so they can do the shove.  

I'd love to see some stats and see how many times the Eagles get to 3rd and 2 or 4th and 2 or less compared to the rest of the league.

If they are purposely trying to get to these situations just to do the shove then they should be much higher than every other team when it comes to being in 3rd or 4th and short. 

So what happened to the whole "you can’t forgive holdout fines” new rule they kept saying this whole time?