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"Fing Orangeman".......

1 hour ago, lynched1 said:

"Fing Orangeman".......

So you’re saying you will be on the next 90 day fiance?

1 hour ago, DBW said:

So you’re saying you will be on the next 90 day fiance?

What in the F?

Listen here you inbred motherFer. If you're going to make the attempt to insult, do it with some coherence.

Blathering idiot.

@Bill What do you know about the cheap American drones we supposedly used yesterday in Iran. Have you seen them in action or in training?

1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

@Bill What do you know about the cheap American drones we supposedly used yesterday in Iran. Have you seen them in action or in training?

Nada, but I wasn't really paying attention much. IMO the more cheap stuff we can use in the ME, the better.

2 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

There should be a vote, maybe turn it into a game show... Bomb or don't Bomb

8 minutes ago, Bill said:

Nada, but I wasn't really paying attention much. IMO the more cheap stuff we can use in the ME, the better.

I read we used loads of them to overwhelm the Iranian defenses giving the good stuff cover to do the key precision lifting. Apparently that was the combo used to take out the leadership and hit the palaces.

13 hours ago, paco said:

Work sent me this:

SIGNIFICANT SECURITY EVENT

Philadelphia is reporting anti-war demonstrations in Philadelphia, around Rittenhouse Square.  Initial reports have a few hundred people participating.  Please use caution when operating in the area. 

13 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

By all means do use caution but kindly post a couple of pics

Thought I'd google to see how they went:

I found "Genocide is not self defense" an interesting choice given Iran literally murdered tens of thousands of people for protesting mere weeks ago.

6 minutes ago, paco said:

I found "Genocide is not self defense" an interesting choice

Yeah, silly

Looks like you might have survived had you gone down there 🙂

Oh my Catturd

16 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

Yeah, silly

Looks like you might have survived had you gone down there 🙂

I think after the BLM riots utilities are extra cautious. I never got those emails/texts prior.

18 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

I was way team Ukraine the first few days until I found out what a POS their president was. Iran is a threat to us and has killed US troops.

"independent thinker" LMFAO

2 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:

"independent thinker" LMFAO

He literally flipped the same time Trump started denouncing Ukraine.

1 minute ago, paco said:

He literally flipped the same time Trump started denouncing Ukraine.

He sure did and always does. I swear he is reading Laura Loomer daily and then parroting everything she says in here.

3 hours ago, DrPhilly said:

@Bill What do you know about the cheap American drones we supposedly used yesterday in Iran. Have you seen them in action or in training?

LINK

The major U.S. and Israeli bombardment of Iran on Saturday featured a U.S. Central Command task force’s first ever deployment of low-cost, one-way attack drones in combat, the command said. They were launched by CENTCOM’s Task Force Scorpion Strike, which was specifically formed to develop and deploy one-way attack drones at scale. The drones deployed for Operation Epic Fury are modeled after Iran’s Shahed drones, which have wreaked havoc on the battlefield in Ukraine and have been employed by Iran-backed militias throughout the Middle East. The task force in December successfully completed its first launch of the LUCAS drone at sea. LUCAS is an abbreviation for low-cost unmanned combat attack system. The drones have an extensive range and are designed to operate autonomously. The command did not specify how many of the one-way drones were fired or what they targeted. They were among munitions fired from "air, land and sea,” the command said. Iranian state media, citing the Red Crescent, on Saturday evening said at least 201 people had been killed and more than 700 injured. Various members of Iran’s leadership were targeted, and at least 85 people were reported killed when a girls’ school was struck in southern Iran, according to a regional governor. A spokesperson for CENTCOM said the strike on the school was being looked into. President Donald Trump said in a post on Truth Social that Iran’s supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, was killed in the strikes, but that the heavy and pinpoint bombing "will continue, uninterrupted throughout the week or, as long as necessary.”

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As coordinated U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran continue, current and former defense officials say that while a limited strike lasting several days is feasible, sustaining a broader confrontation — one involving potentially hundreds of incoming missiles — is far more complicated.  The U.S. and Israel undertook a mission known as Operation Epic Fury, targeting Iranian leadership and military sites Saturday. Its duration is still unclear, but the campaign may go on for days, according to U.S. officials.  Sustaining operations beyond the initial window presents a more complex challenge — one shaped by a "zero-sum" competition for missile defense inventories between the Middle East and Europe.

 

Officials and analysts warn that certain U.S. missile and air-defense interceptor inventories have been severely drawn down by the relentless pace of recent operations. The strategic dilemma for the Pentagon is that the systems required to shield U.S. bases from Iranian retaliation are the same ones being depleted by the defense of Ukraine and the ongoing protection of Israel.

Iran already has fired counterattacks near U.S. positions in Bahrain, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Jordan, with several host governments saying their air defense systems intercepted incoming projectiles. No U.S. service member fatalities or injuries have been reported as of Saturday, a U.S. official told Fox News Digital.  U.S. authorities have not publicly released casualty figures or formal damage assessments. During the intense June 2025 Iran–Israel conflict, U.S. forces fired more than 150 Terminal High Altitude Area Defense Interceptors — roughly a quarter of the total global inventory — and a large number of ship-based standard missiles to protect allies, according to published defense assessments.  This shortfall largely is attributed to the dual pressure of supplying Ukraine against Russian cruise missiles and the surge of batteries to the Middle East. Replenishing these high-end systems can take more than a year, analysts say, because production lines are optimized for peacetime and cannot be surged overnight.

Independent groups have noted the U.S. currently produces roughly 600–650 Patriot PAC-3 MSE missiles annually, reflecting recent contracts to boost production capacity. Analysts say that in a high-intensity war with a near-peer adversary like Iran — where multiple interceptors are often used to defeat a single incoming missile — even a year’s worth of production could be consumed in a matter of weeks, especially after recent drawdowns in Ukraine and the Middle East.  "The Department of War has everything it needs to execute any mission at the time and place of the President’s choosing and on any timeline," Chief Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in response to readiness questions. Retired Air Force Gen. Charles Wald, former deputy commander of U.S. European Command, said the United States retains the ability to surge conventional strike munitions into the region and draw from prepositioned stocks if a campaign is ordered.   "From a conventional munition standpoint, we can always fly in more weapons from around the world," Wald told Fox News Digital. "There are a lot of weapons stored there with this type of mission in mind."  The greater concern, he acknowledged, lies on the defensive side.   "The issue will be defensive weapons — Patriot, SM-3, and the Arrow system in Israel," Wald said. "You can never have enough defense."  Regional analysts caution that in a sustained missile exchange, interceptor inventories — not offensive strike weapons — could become the binding constraint.   "There is a limit to how many THAAD missiles can be used," Israeli defense analyst Ehud Eilam said. "These are not systems you can reproduce overnight." Iran is believed to possess between 1,500 ballistic missiles and 2,000 ballistic missiles, as well as drones and shorter-range rockets capable of striking U.S. bases and Gulf energy infrastructure.  The swift Operation Absolute Resolve in Venezuela in January 2026 and summer 2025's 12-day exchange with Iran have reinforced confidence in American military capability. However, one former defense official cautioned that success in these tightly scoped missions can create a false sense of momentum toward action in far more complex scenarios.  "Iran is a very different problem," the official said — a large, heavily armed state with extensive missile forces and regional proxy networks that would not resemble a short, surgical operation.  Wald acknowledged that risk.   "You don’t want to get people so confident that you don’t consider the risks. It’s not going to be as clean or pure as, say, Venezuela was, or the 12-day war."

Even as the strikes continue, officials warn that retaliation from Iran and its network of allied militias could broaden the conflict. Iran’s ballistic missiles and drones — coupled with allied groups in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen — already have prompted missile salvos against U.S. bases and Gulf partners, according to defense reporting.  Experts say the 2025 conflict underscored how quickly escalation can test both defensive systems and political will.  "Once these things break, you own what follows," one former official said, underscoring the risk that missiles and proxy actions could quickly widen a limited U.S. strike.  Wald warned that even a successful military phase would not eliminate the political uncertainty.   "Bombing Iran is not going to do regime change," he said, emphasizing that air power can degrade capability but cannot guarantee a stable political outcome.

Beyond the immediate exchange, officials say the economic consequences could prove just as consequential. Roughly one-fifth of the world’s oil supply transits the Strait of Hormuz, and even limited disruption could send global energy markets sharply higher.  For Washington, the strategic calculus extends beyond the Middle East. China remains the primary long-term competitor, with the war in Ukraine already consuming significant resources.   A sustained regional conflict would draw on naval assets and air-defense systems that planners must also consider for potential future contingencies in Taiwan or North Korea.    Officials familiar with internal deliberations say President Donald Trump has sought a high degree of confidence in how an Iran contingency would unfold — a standard that becomes harder to meet in scenarios involving escalation and political fallout.

Does Iran’s submarine fleet pose any danger to US naval assets ?

AI Overview

Iran operates a diverse, asymmetric submarine fleet of 19–27 vessels, focused on littoral, coastal defense, and mining operations in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz. The fleet is anchored by 3 Russian-made Kilo-class (Tariq-class) submarines, supported by over 20+ small Ghadir-class midget submarines and, more recently, indigenous Fateh-class semi-heavy submarines. 

The Nuclear Threat Initiative +2

Key Submarine Classes

• Kilo-class (Tariq-class): Three 3,000-ton, Russian-built diesel-electric submarines capable of carrying 18 torpedoes or 24 mines.

• Ghadir-class (Midget): 117-150 ton, small, and silent vessels, often based on North Korean Yono-class designs, designed for shallow water, ambush, and stealth operations.

• Fateh-class: Domestically produced~600-ton semi-heavy submarines, capable of operating at depths of over 200 meters for up to 35 days.

• Nahang-class: A small number of indigenous, slightly larger midget submarines used for special forces transport. 

  The Nuclear Threat Initiative +6

Capabilities and Strategy

• Asymmetric Warfare: Iran's strategy relies on using small, quiet, and numerous vessels to counter superior naval forces like the U.S. Navy in restricted, shallow waters.

• Armament: Iranian submarines are equipped with torpedoes, including high-speed Hoot supercavitating torpedoes, and can launch mines or submarine-launched cruise missiles.

• Location: The fleet is based around the Strait of Hormuz, with the larger Kilo-class operating in the Gulf of Oman and the smaller midgets in the shallow, tight spots of the Persian Gulf. 

  USNI News +3

11 hours ago, NOTW said:

Vance has been benched over this. Any philosophical consistency or moral dignity will not be tolerated. It is what the leader needs, when the leader needs it, no questions asked, ever.