1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Easier said than done against their OL. They also use screens as good as maybe any other offense so if you start to get too blitz heavy, they're bound to catch you with your pants down and rip off 30-40 yds on a screen / swing to Gibbs.

Was gonna say the same thing. Their offensive line is really good. Could make the argument the eagles and lions are both top 3 olines. Ben Johnson has also really helped him become a much more consistent with his play calling as he utilizes what he does well and rarely asks him to do things he doesn’t.

That said when Jared Goff was inconsistent with the rams and before Ben Johnson in Detroit, his offensive line was not where the lions OL is today. 

1 minute ago, Miami said:

True.  Gibbs just had a monster game.

I actually think the better approach is to keep everyting in front of you against them. Goff's accuracy is inconsistent so you might have a better chance playing a lot of C1, 2-man, robber coverages, etc. Force him to sit back and make throws into tight windows. He usually doesn't hold the ball long anyway so give him time and he'll check it down sooner than most. Johnson loves to run on 3rd down a lot, knowing Campbell thinks everywhere on the field is 4 down territory, so use that to your advantage and hope you can get off the field on a risky 4th and short call at midfield (they never QB sneak for some reason.)

10 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

I actually think the better approach is to keep everyting in front of you against them. Goff's accuracy is inconsistent so you might have a better chance playing a lot of C1, 2-man, robber coverages, etc. Force him to sit back and make throws into tight windows. He usually doesn't hold the ball long anyway so give him time and he'll check it down sooner than most. Johnson loves to run on 3rd down a lot, knowing Campbell thinks everywhere on the field is 4 down territory, so use that to your advantage and hope you can get off the field on a risky 4th and short call at midfield (they never QB sneak for some reason.)

Hear you.  Will try to watch some DET to see if the blitz gets home.  Fangio likes to keep everything in front of him so you may well be right.

5 minutes ago, Don Corleone said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

Even Hurts best year in 2022 isn't better

8 minutes ago, Don Corleone said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

Quite a bit. He also has 12-15 tds that would probably be Barkley’s. 

1 minute ago, Khani1 said:

Quite a bit. He also has 12-15 tds that would probably be Barkley’s. 

I knew the sneak took some from Barkley but I didn't know it was that high

The #1 seed is a big playoff advantage, but there have been plenty of instances of 14 and 15-win teams from the #1 seed who don't get to the Super Bowl.  Green Bay and Minnesota are somewhat recent examples.  DET needed OT to beat the Rams in Week 1, so it's not out of the question they could be one-and-done. 

11 minutes ago, Miami said:

Hear you.  Will try to watch some DET to see if the blitz gets home.  Fangio likes to keep everything in front of him so you may well be right.

Yeah I think our defense matches up really well against them. Goff will likely toss a pick or two if we can keep the score close enough to force them into more passing situations. They're still at a major offensive advantage so we'd have to shorten the game with a heavy dose of Saquon to keep the clock running and keep Goff off the field as much as possible. Just hope you can force a turnover or two, protect the ball when we have you it, and if it all comes together, it should give you a damn good chance to beat them.

19 minutes ago, Don Corleone said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

Hurts passing numbers had a huge impact on Barkley.  They had to abandon the idea of being a passing team for a reason,  and it wasn't because they had Barkley.

40 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

wat

LaPorta is healthier and younger than Goedert.  He has also been more productive. 

46 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

You are grossly under rating Ben and our roster

we have more talent at every position on offense except maybe TE

The Lions have the number one offense in the NFL and it's because of their talent.  

15 minutes ago, Khani1 said:

Quite a bit. He also has 12-15 tds that would probably be Barkley’s. 

I am not sure what you mean.  The Eagles have relied on the running game but in part it's because the passing game hasn't been efficient or effective.  

24 minutes ago, Don Corleone said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

Not enough to account for that difference.  

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Waiving Book is interesting. There isn't an immediate need with a guy coming off IR (unless its Bradberry or Young) and Practice Squad elevations are unlimited know. With the 22 starters healthy, there really isn't a need to sign someone from the PS to the active roster, but I guess that would be the move unless there is some mystery signing. Maybe it will be Blasingame. 

Suh isn’t under contract maybe they are bringing him in for one last go around hahaha. 

2 hours ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Preaching to the choir. Some of his in-game management decisions have been so mind-numbingly stupid. Though I will say that he's gotta be pretty good at the motivational speaker aspect of it. Those guys seem hyped up every game and hardly ever come out flat or show poor effort, especially on the defensive side of the ball. 

 

3 hours ago, vikas83 said:

Campbell will be exposed as a clown and imbecile once Johnson and Glenn leave. The guy is a flat out idiot making utterly ridiculous in game decisions that are covered up by the team's talent and play calling.

Strongly disagree. The number one thing you want from your players is to go out every game and kick ass. They’ve done that in spite of injuries that would destroy most teams. The team’s talent and play calling are factors in those ridiculous game decisions and, clearly, his team loves him for them. If we get to them in the NFCCG, it will not be one for the faint of heart. I believe we are tougher than any team we face, short of the Lions. Then we’ll see.

35 minutes ago, Don Corleone said:

How much impact does Barkley have on Hurts passing numbers? 

Alternatively, how much impact does Hurts have on Barkley’s rushing numbers?

43 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Goff is better than Hurts, but to get an idea of how much of an impact Johnson has made, look at the production from Goff (and the offense as a whole) in '21 under Anthony Lynn, vs the years since Johnson has taken over. It's not a coincidence he started playing so much more efficiently starting in '22. Talent is obviously important, but sharp coordinators and a robust scheme is a huge part of it too.

I don't necessarily think Goff is better than Hurts but he's been a more effective passer than Hurts this season.  I think Ben Johnson is a very good OC.  I am just not sure that will necessarily translate into him being a good head coach.  Goff fits what Johnson wants to do.  If you give Johnson a passer like Hurts, is he going to be able to adapt his scheme to be as effective? 

6 minutes ago, just relax said:

Alternatively, how much impact does Hurts have on Barkley’s rushing numbers?

I mean yes having a mobile QB helps the running back get some easier yards but, its not like there has never been a 2,000 yard rusher without a mobile QB. Actually most of the most prolific running backs didnt have mobile qbs or rpos so... Idk i dont think having a mobile qb helps as much as people make it out to be. 

9 minutes ago, just relax said:

Alternatively, how much impact does Hurts have on Barkley’s rushing numbers?

9 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If you give Johnson a passer like Hurts, is he going to be able to adapt his scheme to be as effective? 

 

29 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Hurts passing numbers had a huge impact on Barkley.  They had to abandon the idea of being a passing team for a reason,  and it wasn't because they had Barkley.

Hurts has passing limitations, but your relentless statements repeating the same message are concerning. Do you have Hurts Alzheimer's?  Should we be contacting your doctor and family about appropriate living scenarios to keep you safe from yourself and Hurts?

21 minutes ago, just relax said:

 

Strongly disagree. The number one thing you want from your players is to go out every game and kick ass. They’ve done that in spite of injuries that would destroy most teams. The team’s talent and play calling are factors in those ridiculous game decisions and, clearly, his team loves him for them. If we get to them in the NFCCG, it will not be one for the faint of heart. I believe we are tougher than any team we face, short of the Lions. Then we’ll see.

I agree…that team plays so fricking hard.  My big hope for that matchup is Fangio confusing Goff enough for the pass rush to create a couple turnovers.

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

Ben Johnson has done a great job with an offense that has probably the most talent in the League.  It's not like he's working miracles with dregs.  

I’d take the Eagles talent over the Lions, personally. We are better at nearly every position aside from QB.

 

Lions vs Eagles to me is really simple. If Hurts plays well, we win. If not, we lose.

We are the more talented team. Better defense, better RB, better OL, better WRs.

But, Hurts has got to play well. He has to be decisive and pull the trigger. If he starts running around aimlessly because he isn’t seeing the field well, it will be a long day.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Even Hurts best year in 2022 isn't better

We’ll always be a running team under Sirianni, and I don’t Think that’s a bad thing. I think that’s an excellent thing