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9 hours ago, NOTW said:

 

 

I say son, that’s a whoopin’

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1 hour ago, DrPhilly said:

That was as close as HE can come to putting his hand in the air and saying "I was wrong".

I made a post before the Super bowl.  As desperate a you act for it,  for it you guys should have seen it. 

Really interesting coverage on Coop's pick 6. 3rd and long, KC comes out in trips bunch rt, then keeps the TE in to pin so Mahomes can roll out to that side. Andy knows that Fangio usually has a Trix call for these situations, meaning the backside cb will be locked up in man on the iso'd wr who runs a deepish crosser. It's Q on Hopkins so not that big of an ask for Q (weird to say about a rookie).

But the interesting part are the drops from everyone else, Reed drops to the deep half, with CJ and Slay in quarters, as you'd expect in C6, but the quirk is in the underneath defenders. Baun and Burks slide with Mahomes as he rolls out, and Coop, who was the slot cb on that side, actually drops deeper into a buzz protect as Baun fills in behind him. Not sure if he even saw Hopkins flash in behind him, but it looks like he just reads Mahomes' eyes the whole way and somehow Mahomes doesn't see him. Like at all. I'm guessing he was just expecting a typical 3 underneath look and didn't think a hole defender would be sitting in where the lcb usually gets peeled back by the #1's vertical stem (oddly enough, coop was in perfect position to play against that deep comeback just the same so Mahomes was F'd either way.) But instead of just buying more time (wasn't under duress at all on that one) and eating it, he throws it right to Coop. Pretty cool, Vic. Pretty cool.

5 hours ago, KINGnabb said:

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Nick Wrong's co-workers roasted him badly yesterday, lol.  Made him go through with his Chiefs 3 Peat Celebration he had planned including dropping balloons, lol..  

That guy is such a toolsy **** bag hater. Been that way all year so he deserves every bit of it. He must be a fan of one our rivals but won't say. 

I'll say it once here in the blog for my personal satisfaction, and then won't repeat it until somebody brings up the silly talking points again. Probably. Unless I feel like it.

For all those who once said, "So, what exactly does Sirianni do here?"...there's a universal response to you all now.

Nick Sirianni makes sure to credit the man who made Super Bowl LIX victory  so easy for Eagles

...By the way, nice touch that the confetti is Lombardi Trophy shaped. Lol.

1 minute ago, greendestiny27 said:

That guy is such a toolsy **** bag hater. Been that way all year so her deserves every bit of it. He must be a fan of one our rivals but won't say. 

Cowherd is going to pretend he didn't talk mad crap about Sirianni too, he'll never own it LOL.

10 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Really interesting coverage on Coop's pick 6. 3rd and long, KC comes out in trips bunch rt, then keeps the TE in to pin so Mahomes can roll out to that side. Andy knows that Fangio usually has a Trix call for these situations, meaning the backside cb will be locked up in man on the iso'd wr who runs a deepish crosser. It's Q on Hopkins so not that big of an ask for Q (weird to say about a rookie).

But the interesting part are the drops from everyone else, Reed drops to the deep half, with CJ and Slay in quarters, as you'd expect in C6, but the quirk is in the underneath defenders. Baun and Burks slide with Mahomes as he rolls out, and Coop, who was the slot cb on that side, actually drops deeper into a buzz protect as Baun fills in behind him. Not sure if he even saw Hopkins flash in behind him, but it looks like he just reads Mahomes' eyes the whole way and somehow Mahomes doesn't see him. Like at all. I'm guessing he was just expecting a typical 3 underneath look and didn't think a hole defender would be sitting in where the lcb usually gets peeled back by the #1's vertical stem (oddly enough, coop was in perfect position to play against that deep comeback just the same so Mahomes was F'd either way.) But instead of just buying more time (wasn't under duress at all on that one) and eating it, he throws it right to Coop. Pretty cool, Vic. Pretty cool.

Solak had a great write up on the play - basically called it perfect defense.

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The situation: Eagles' third-and-16 on the K.C. 24-yard line, second quarter, 7:16 remaining, PHI up 10-0

Look again at that scoreboard. It was only 10-0 halfway through the second quarter. The Chiefs were in a bad spot, but the Chiefs are always in a bad spot, and then always wriggle their way out. Not this time.

This is a beautiful schematic play from the Eagles' defense. They are in quarters, as they were for most of this game, but quarters is a toolsy, versatile coverage. It's not as simple as playing four deep players and three underneath defenders, all dropping to a spot on the field with eyes on the quarterback. Quarters coverages -- especially Vic Fangio's -- have a lot of rules and adjustments relative to formations and route distributions.

One of the most common ways to beat any zone coverage is by flooding one side of the field. That's why the league calls three-level concepts into the sideline a "flood" -- because there's typically only two zone defenders into the sideline (one underneath and one deep), so with three routes in that vertical space, someone should be open.

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On this play, the Chiefs run super flood (not a real term). While they are not initially in a four-strong formation, they've called a sprintout right with four eligibles to the right once running back Samaje Perine (34) crosses quarterback Patrick Mahomes' (15) face. Watch tight end Noah Gray (83) look to set the screen for Mahomes, who is exiting the pocket to his right not under duress, but by design. This was an attempted schematic adjustment from Kansas City in response to the consistent pressure Philadelphia was putting on Mahomes in the pocket.

Mahomes had 46 designed rollouts to his right in the regular season; only Bo Nix and Kyler Murray had more. He attempted 44 passes on those 46 dropbacks, completing 32 for 345 yards and two scores. That's an EPA per dropback of 0.36 (league average was 0.04) and a success rate of 61% (league average was 50%). Mahomes and the Chiefs are great in the designed rollout and sprintout game, especially with four routes on one side of the field -- something else they do more frequently, and more successfully, than most teams. On third-and-16, they relied on what they do best.

The Eagles play this perfectly. That is not a word I use lightly. Watch linebacker Oren Burks (42) alert Zack Baun (53) and slot corner Cooper DeJean (33) that Perine is releasing strong and the Chiefs now have four eligible receivers to that side of the field. In good zone coverage, defenders move in concert, like they're attached by stiff rods that don't allow them to get any closer or any further away from one another. Burks pushes the underneath coverage to his left, and as he moves, so does Baun. Baun takes over the underneath area into the sideline, which pushes DeJean back. The spacing is flawless.

Now, the Eagles have solved their flood problem. They've created three layers of zone defense into the sideline, anticipating the three layers of routes the Chiefs might flood them with.

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What the Chiefs are actually running isn't as neat and tidy as the ideal diagram of a flood concept. The safeties have vision and a bracket on wideout Hollywood Brown (5) if Mahomes wanted a deep shot; cornerback Darius Slay Jr. (2) has depth and leverage on receiver Xavier Worthy (1), who is breaking at the sticks; Baun is attached to Perine out of the flat; and Burks is present for a late tight end release or Mahomes scramble.

That leaves DeJean, the bonus dropper, the extra player in the new layer of the defense. He is waiting for any backside crosser, and rightfully so, as wideout DeAndre Hopkins (8) comes sprinting across the field. It is worth remarking that the Eagles can play quarters against these 4x1 route distributions because they have a star rookie cornerback opposite DeJean in Quinyon Mitchell (27), who locked up Hopkins on this play. Watch Mitchell, who initially has almost 10 yards of cushion and big outside leverage, steadily close the distance on Hopkins and condense the window by the time Mahomes releases the ball. This was a pass breakup even if DeJean didn't exist.

But DeJean does exist, and the rookie plays Mahomes like a 10-year vet. Watch DeJean follow Mahomes in total synchronicity. As Mahomes' hands start to separate, DeJean settles his feet. As Mahomes starts to slow his momentum, DeJean also slows. And as Mahomes releases the ball, DeJean breaks on it. He eliminated the throw to Worthy with his initial drop, got back into the throwing window for Hopkins and ran back the interception almost 40 yards into the end zone.

That is a special, special play.

 

My first time hearing the Jake Elliott origin story too

 

5 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I'll say it once here in the blog for my personal satisfaction, and then won't repeat it until somebody brings up the silly talking points again. Probably. Unless I feel like it.

For all those who once said, "So, what exactly does Sirianni do here?"...there's a universal response to you all now.

Nick Sirianni makes sure to credit the man who made Super Bowl LIX victory  so easy for Eagles

...By the way, nice touch that the confetti is Lombardi Trophy shaped. Lol.

Howie and Hurts seem very happy for him; the rest of the people pictured are a bit lukewarm    LOL

5 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Cowherd is going to pretend he didn't talk mad crap about Sirianni too, he'll never own it LOL.

It's funny he roasted him when he first got hired because of the PC.

Then 2nd year he goes to the SB and he praises him.

Then they struggle last year at the end of the year and it's the job is too big for him.

It's like he just goes with the narrative.

1 minute ago, Alphagrand said:

Howie and Hurts seem very happy for him; the rest of the people pictured are a bit lukewarm    LOL

This picture proves he lost the locker room!!!!!

When the Chiefs beat the Bills, I kept thinking about how sickening all the Mahomes talk was going to be leading up to the Super Bowl (spoiler: it was) and how seethingly mad I was going to be during the game every time Mahomes escaped a tackle, made some crazy throw, extended a drive, all while running around with his stupid tiny helmet and baby facemask.  Just the sight of it annoys the F out of me.  

But, IT NEVER REALLY HAPPENED.  I still can't believe it.  

Fangio is god.



 

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

It's funny he roasted him when he first got hired because of the PC.

Then 2nd year he goes to the SB and he praises him.

Then they struggle last year at the end of the year and it's the job is too big for him.

It's like he just goes with the narrative.

As wishy washy as they come. Doesn't like that Sirianni seems like the type that might wear his hat backwards!

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3 minutes ago, B3 said:

When the Chiefs beat the Bills, I kept thinking about how sickening all the Mahomes talk was going to be leading up to the Super Bowl (spoiler: it was) and how seethingly mad I was going to be during the game every time Mahomes escaped a tackle, made some crazy throw, extended a drive, all while running around with his stupid tiny helmet and baby facemask.  Just the sight of it annoys the F out of me.  

But, IT NEVER REALLY HAPPENED.  I still can't believe it.  

Fangio is god.



 

Fangio really proved the whole fandom wrong. It's the epitome of 'just because I taught you everything you know, doesn't mean I taught you everything I know' with Fangio's scheme. Vic, stay with us forever please. Lol.

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 

Probably missing context. Did they already talk and this is just him walking away?

37 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Rewatched some of the game last night and man did Mahomes play like absolute dogshit. He was just so, so bad. Not that I think it matters, we still win easily even if he has a better game, but it's almost incomprehensible how off he was. Reminds me of how poorly the NE defense played 7 years ago too. 

He played bad, scared, rattled. Reid had no answers, he looked lost and stunned. They really thought that all they had to do was shut down Barkley and they would blitz Hurts and win easily. A lot of the talking heads on TV were saying the Chiefs barely even TRIED to do anything different. They were shell shocked. 

I rewatched the YouTube highlight compilation (not the full broadcast yet), but watching the highlights over and over the D line just abused them all night. It was a pummeling. One analyst pointed out that there were times Mahomes flushed the pocket or looked over his shoulder or changed direction even when he actually wasn't about to get hit, because he was so rattled.

8 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

Solak had a great write up on the play - basically called it perfect defense.

 

Yeah maybe it's just because we don't see too many roll outs against trix but it's the first time I've seen that underneath flat defender convert to buzz like that while knowing the mike is gonna slide from hook to flat. What a departure from 2 years ago, Andy and Mahomes got thoroughly outcoached by Vic in this one.

8 hours ago, devpool said:

$100 is about what I paid in 2018 from Florida, but it was through spirit. Crazy that Idaho is more expensive than Hawaii, it's probably 1/3 of the distance away

Whole lot of people fly to Hawaii. So many more routes.  Got to imagine that flying to Idaho isn’t a high demand route.  I am guessing more Philly area folks fly to Hawaii than Idaho.  Hell I would bet that a significant number of posters in the Blog have never been to Idaho and certainly many more have ventured to Hawaii.  Boise is booming but its metropolitan population isn’t bigger than the PA South Central counties.  Supply is way less, to keep demand high but it also means steeper prices. 

Not disparaging Idaho. Except for the oceans, Idaho offers beauty to rival Hawaii.  I recommend the Bitterroot Mountains, the Seven Devils, the Snake River and Craters of the Moon (one of my favorite National Parks) has the only pahoehoe lava you can see in the states outside of Hawaii. 

Someone's butt hurt and can't take the L.

4 hours ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Impacts the Williams decision.

 

Also could impact his cost.  

15 minutes ago, NOTW said:

He played bad, scared, rattled. Reid had no answers, he looked lost and stunned. They really thought that all they had to do was shut down Barkley and they would blitz Hurts and win easily. A lot of the talking heads on TV were saying the Chiefs barely even TRIED to do anything different. They were shell shocked. 

I rewatched the YouTube highlight compilation (not the full broadcast yet), but watching the highlights over and over the D line just abused them all night. It was a pummeling. One analyst pointed out that there were times Mahomes flushed the pocket or looked over his shoulder or changed direction even when he actually wasn't about to get hit, because he was so rattled.

After KC's second drive, mahomes was looking at the DL more than his own receivers. He was scared in the pocket, no trust with his OL.

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I will be opening up the 2025 Offseason Blog tomorrow.

Get in your final thoughts on the incredible 2024 journey by then.

 

Kelce: conflicted, and he asked the prior post to be removed because it had pics of him.

 

 

 

 

What was your most important play of the 2024 season?

Toss up for me between Saquon's TD in the snow and DeJean's pick 6. Smitty's TD was up there, but I think the game was close to decided at that point.

Barkley's TD in the NFCCG also a candidate.

Carter sack vs Stafford as well.

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