56 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Could see a team like the eagles liking Barron as a CB in round 1. But if you listen to those NFL stock exchange guys, he might be CB1. I dont quite think that will happen, but I wouldnt expect him on the board at 32. 

More realistically, I'm thinking about a tradeup to 24 (Vikings) and the players who might be there... Nolen, Simmons, Barron, etc. with a little slippage (like Q last draft).

If we are strictly talking CB, I'm in the Revel boat at 32.

4 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Now do Ransom, Mukuba, and Bowman.

I see what you mean by saying they're all somewhat comparable in that none stand out above the rest, necessarily.  It's more what flavor of safety you want.

 

Ransom's highlights are pretty much all at the LOS.  Really good tackler and hits hard.  No idea what he's like in coverage from the limited film I see, which is a bit concerning.

Mukuba actually looks really good to me, in that he makes plays both at the LOS and downfield in coverage.  Hits hard enough they enjoyed flagging him for targeting just for making good hits.  

Bowman I'd say is a notch below the other two; decent player for sure, but nothing about him really stands out -- other than his stone hands.  Dropped a few INT even in his highlights.

 

Compared to the previous group I'd still rank Watts first and Mukuba second out of the six.  Likely because they're more versatile and better playmakers than the others.  Just my perception.

3 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

More realistically, I'm thinking about a tradeup to 24 (Vikings) and the players who might be there... Nolen, Simmons, Barron, etc. with a little slippage (like Q last draft).

If we are strictly talking CB, I'm in the Revel boat at 32.

Me too.  Love Revel.

Also in the trade up mindset. Few needs on this team.  Go get an impact player. 

For me, the trade up is Campbell, or if he's gone, Starks.

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I see what you mean by saying they're all somewhat comparable in that none stand out above the rest, necessarily.  It's more what flavor of safety you want.

 

Ransom's highlights are pretty much all at the LOS.  Really good tackler and hits hard.  No idea what he's like in coverage from the limited film I see, which is a bit concerning.

Mukuba actually looks really good to me, in that he makes plays both at the LOS and downfield in coverage.  Hits hard enough they enjoyed flagging him for targeting just for making good hits.  

Bowman I'd say is a notch below the other two; decent player for sure, but nothing about him really stands out -- other than his stone hands.  Dropped a few INT even in his highlights.

 

Compared to the previous group I'd still rank Watts first and Mukuba second out of the six.  Likely because they're more versatile and better playmakers than the others.  Just my perception.

In pretty much with you.  I like Mukuba, and that Watts is such a good fit the way we use our safeties here. 

I do appreciate that Bowman does have solid safety speed and has perfected the peanut punch. This team was big on that. Can you imagine even more forced fumbles on this defense?

Honestly a pretty loaded safety group at the top of this class. 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

 

This is really good. Man, we are so lucky to have this guy. There's a part in here where he talks about how NOTHING compares to the feeling of breaking a cornerback's spirit on the filed -- even winning the Super Bowl. What an assassin. Everything in this interview supports what you see on the field. This dude is built for the big stage.

On 3/19/2025 at 6:30 PM, HazletonEagle said:

Kind of odd that Mailata conceivably has a bunch of years left, and Lane plans to play 3 more and theyve sniffed around 1st round OTs a lot. Feels 1-2 years early.

The way it makes more sense is that whoever the draft will begin at RG and slide out out to RT in 2-3 years when Lane is done.

Pretty much all of the OTs they have invited are multi position type players. 
Pretty much all the back ups, except Toth meet that description.  Heck, Fred Johnson was a T/G too.

5 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Somebody just needs to keep whispering "Dillard” in Howie’s ear. 

The issue with the Dillard selection wasn't in selecting an OL in a weak OL class... the issue was that they hadn't done their homework on him before draft night.  They took a significant risk on him as he fell on draft night, not really understanding why he was falling... and thought that a brief phone conversation (on draft night!!!) with Stoutland could somehow give the requisite information on the fly.  Just horrible process.   If you haven't done the research on the player in Round 1, you can't take a chance on drafting him.   The NFL has changed too much since the days where GMs would literally use the Ourlads book to make their selections!  If you didn't do the homework, you pass on the player and go with one of the players that you DID research and feel comfortable with.

1 hour ago, mikemack8 said:

 

Basketball players are more skilled than they’ve ever been, right @DaEagles4Life?

  

What a trash league

Carries and travels are not called.  So sad.  

59 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

More realistically, I'm thinking about a tradeup to 24 (Vikings) and the players who might be there... Nolen, Simmons, Barron, etc. with a little slippage (like Q last draft).

If we are strictly talking CB, I'm in the Revel boat at 32.

If we took him do you move Ringo to Safety?

19 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

The issue with the Dillard selection wasn't in selecting an OL in a weak OL class... the issue was that they hadn't done their homework on him before draft night.  They took a significant risk on him as he fell on draft night, not really understanding why he was falling... and thought that a brief phone conversation (on draft night!!!) with Stoutland could somehow given the requisite information on the fly.  Just horrible process.   If you haven't done the research on the player in Round 1, you can't take a chance on drafting him.   The NFL has changed too much since the days where GMs would literally use the Ourlads book to make their selections!  If you didn't do the homework, you pass on the player and go with one of the players that you DID research and feel comfortable with.

That is such a clear lesson … and one that they appear to have learned from in the intervening drafts.  

I suspect the reason Howie signs the second tier FAs that he does is to ensure that he hits Thursday night with no holes that are pleading for a draftee to plug.

no trades. crushed.

59 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Me too.  Love Revel.

Also in the trade up mindset. Few needs on this team.  Go get an impact player. 

For me, the trade up is Campbell, or if he's gone, Starks.

Campbell is such a natural fit for this Defense.  He and Baun side by side would give Fangio an incredible amount of flexibility and opposing QBs nightmares.

You appear to like Starks more than Emmanwori.  Are there particular reasons why?

On 3/20/2025 at 8:22 AM, UK Eagle said:

I've never understood why NFL teams complain about the brotherly shove, and don't try anything different but lineup as normal.  Chris Jones in isolation wasn't going to stop the shove, but at least showed effort in changing up something.  The concept is repetitive and simple for the Eagles, so surely there is someone out there who can work out how to stop it.  They don't run it to the right, they don't really run it down the middle.

Because there has been a trend towards lighter faster DTs by some teams.  Thing is that Jurgens actually has good size for the Eagles and they typically have big Gs. Dickerson is 336. (My guess is a huge portion of the Eagles sneaks are behind Dickerson.)  Becton was around 360.  Steen is 320.  Last year, that would have outweighed every Commie DT except Payne.  Green Bay has a light defensive interior.  Point being that when you have a QB that has leg strength like Hurts, it is pretty unstoppable and if he is being pushed by Saquon, the physics pretty much support the offense.  But what those morons at Green Bay don’t realize is their juvenile, poorly worded rule doesn’t equate for the low, quick momentum.  The push just tends to guarantee success that is probably around 90% without the push.  Heck, the Eagles line up all kinds of "pushers” even WRs.   But watch the pushers.  Their main job isn’t pushing, it’s gap responsibility adjacent to Hurts to keep players from getting under Hurts. 

12 minutes ago, mattwill said:

If we took him do you move Ringo to Safety?

Revel is coming off an ACL, which is probably why we'd have a shot at him at 32.  So, I'd have Ringo compete for an outside job which he might win early on - but long-term I see him as depth.

Thoughts on the type of safety that Vic would be looking for?

In many ways, it is the most demanding on the field.  Physical traits are obviously necessary.   

But how would the ability to digest his scheme quickly and effectively play into their evaluations and rankings?

 No more Avonte Maddox. Thanks for the 4th down PBU in LIX!

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

no trades. crushed.

Very good. I like Henderson a lot as a RB but without knowing who was on your board at 64 I don’t see the value in taking a RB there.  Arroyo at 96 and Sawyer at 134 are steals. McCord is the developmental QB that I like most in the Draft, but if he was available I would have taken TE Jackson Hawes.

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

no trades. crushed.

Noice.

Avonte Maddox to the Lions.

 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Avonte Maddox to the Lions.

@ManuManu

15 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Campbell is such a natural fit for this Defense.  He and Baun side by side would give Fangio an incredible amount of flexibility and opposing QBs nightmares.

You appear to like Starks more than Emmanwori.  Are there particular reasons why?

Emmanwori is an athlete. He is intriguing. But I get a little but of Obi Melifonwu scare from him. He is raw. And the least aggressive of any of the safety prospects. There is a projection that you have to rely on- that he develops instincts, and toughness.

Starks is a guy who is a victim of prospect fatigue. For a long time, the apple of everyone's eye at his position. Suddenly there is an athlete and now people want to bump Starks down a bit. Starks is so smooth out there. Hes just a natural. The one knock is occasional pursuit angles can be an issue. I think the way we use our safeties hides that. And, you also see that knock with a bunch of these guys we have been discussion. I think starks is a blue chip prospect.

Emmanwori is boom or bust. 

 

17 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Revel is coming off an ACL, which is probably why we'd have a shot at him at 32.  So, I'd have Ringo compete for an outside job which he might win early on - but long-term I see him as depth.

Ringo could win the job this year, and then not get re-signed just because the timing of his extension fit well in the long term cap plan. So, Revel becomes the next man up and Ringo brings us a comp pick. 

I dont know though. I think Revel's talent will shine too much and you cant keep him off the field. 

14 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Because there has been a trend towards lighter faster DTs by some teams.  Thing is that Jurgens actually has good size for the Eagles and they typically have big Gs. Dickerson is 336. (My guess is a huge portion of the Eagles sneaks are behind Dickerson.)  Becton was around 360.  Steen is 320.  Last year, that would have outweighed every Commie DT except Payne.  Green Bay has a light defensive interior.  Point being that when you have a QB that has leg strength like Hurts, it is pretty unstoppable and if he is being pushed by Saquon, the physics pretty much support the offense.  But what those morons at Green Bay don’t realize is their juvenile, poorly worded rule doesn’t equate for the low, quick momentum.  The push just tends to guarantee success that is probably around 90% without the push.  Heck, the Eagles line up all kinds of "pushers” even WRs.   But watch the pushers.  Their main job isn’t pushing, it’s gap responsibility adjacent to Hurts to keep players from getting under Hurts. 

The way the rule change is worded, I can see the Eagles simply lining up Saquon on Hurts’ right shoulder and Dillon on Hurts’ left shoulder and all three of them surging forward when the ball is snapped.  They would both (a) bracket Hurts shielding him from a defense coming at him from the side, and (b) moving the defenders across from the LG-OC-RG interior backward.  No one pushing Hurts, but plenty of pushing in the portion of the formation that Hurts is trying to exploit.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Emmanwori is an athlete. He is intriguing. But I get a little but of Obi Melifonwu scare from him. He is raw. And the least aggressive of any of the safety prospects. There is a projection that you have to rely on- that he develops instincts, and toughness.

Starks is a guy who is a victim of prospect fatigue. For a long time, the apple of everyone's eye at his position. Suddenly there is an athlete and now people want to bump Starks down a bit. Starks is so smooth out there. Hes just a natural. The one knock is occasional pursuit angles can be an issue. I think the way we use our safeties hides that. And, you also see that knock with a bunch of these guys we have been discussion. I think starks is a blue chip prospect.

Emmanwori is boom or bust. 

Thanks.  That is very clear and very helpful.