Just now, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Kiper had to be on the take from the Sanders family. That was embarrassing.

I wonder if he has the same agent as Sanders.

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

"Who in the hell is Mel Kiper, anyway?" Classic draft moment!!!

Thanks for posting that. Truly priceless.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles truly see Campbell as an edge who can play LB, should we be devoting more valuable resources to edge?

Obviously, I’ve made myself clear that I think he’s a LB - so providing more depth to the edge rotation makes sense to me.

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I wonder if he has the same agent as Sanders.

I can’t imagine that Mel isn’t his own agent.

12 minutes ago, DaEagles4Life said:

Count 4 Safeties and 8 Edges that could go in the 2nd, hopefully we get one of them.

What are the chances howie has s high grade on one of those guys and trades up like he did last year to snag him?

5 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Obviously, I’ve made myself clear that I think he’s a LB - so providing more depth to the edge rotation makes sense to me.

We see him the same. I don’t think Howie and Co do.

6 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Kiper had to be on the take from the Sanders family. That was embarrassing.

Meh. He's just a moron. He was hot after Trent Dilfer and bashed the Colts for passing on him. And Bill Tobin lit in to him... and rightly so. Trev Alberts was a really good LB, and its a shame that his injury never let him show just how right Tobin and the Colts were about him. But we got to see just how wrong Kiper was about Dilfer. Yeah... he won a Super Bowl. But honestly, I think any of us could have won a Super Bowl that year with the Ravens. And the Ravens were so impressed by that that they let him leave via free agency just months later. Dilfer might be the single worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl as the starter. It took a Herculean effort by the rest of the team, especially the defense, to make that a reality. That was a team that went, IIRC, 9 consecutive games without scoring an offensive TD that season with Dilfer at the helm. Just pathetic.

So many good players left I'd be happy with today.

OL: Savaiinaea, Ratledge, Frazier, Mbow, Wilson

DT: Norman-Lott, Sanders, Alexander

EDGE: Green, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, Jackson, Oladejo

CB: Johnson, Revel, Amos, Thomas

S: Watts, Winston, Emnanwori, Mukuba

TE: Taylor

Without moving a few of those guys will be available at our 2nd as teams ahead pick off the OTs, LBs, QBs and WRs. Hell we might be able to trade back and still have a few still there. Love it.

56 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I don’t think the Campbell pick affects Dean or Trot at all really. I’m more interested in what role a guy like Jalyx Hunt will play.

That is an interesting take. Care to explain your thinking?

23 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Why trade for Honey Badger when you can sign Simmons with no trade capital cost?

I mean it from the sense of the animal being persistent in the face of circumstances where most others would give up. After last nights rebuffs, he'll start again tonight, I'd think

23 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

At least with the Giants it was a move up for a QB... so it wasn't forcing it. But if his last name was 'Smith' rather than 'Sanders' this wouldn't be the circus it is. BUT, Sanders has always made things about the circus. I'd want to steer clear of him just for that reason alone. He's not good enough, IMO, to deal with the circus that will come with him, especially to come in as a backup QB.

I think Sanders has the talent to do what Brock Purdy does and on a Day 2 contract that might be valuable for a well built roster. But can he carry a team, no. Will he reach his Brock Purdy ceiling with all the entitlement and distraction… yeah, I’d pass.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles truly see Campbell as an edge who can play LB, should we be devoting more valuable resources to edge?

They have two young guys that they are high on. They have two lottery tickets they are hoping can rebound, on one year deals. And they have a bust free agent that they likely would return if he was an Amazon delivery.

So, I don't see anything that would stop them from adding another edge player if he's the clear BPA.

10 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Obviously, I’ve made myself clear that I think he’s a LB - so providing more depth to the edge rotation makes sense to me.

Even if he's not a pure LB. I still don't see why they couldn't/shouldn't add an edge if its the BPA.

Drafting specifically for need is a terrible way to roster build. And currently MORE THAN HALF of their EDGES are not going to be on the team after the 2025 season. (Uche and Ojulari are on one year deals, and Huff's deal can be terminated after this year to minimize the damage to the cap.). Only Smith and Hunt are under contract and likely to be here beyond 2025, as of today. Even if Campbell is a pure edge, I'd still see no problem with adding another one if he's BPA.

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We see him the same. I don’t think Howie and Co do.

I wouldn’t take a raw 235lb edge in the first round. He doesn’t have the technique or the anchor.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

Like @eagle45 said - as much as everyone may think Howie/The Eagles love the LB position all of a sudden by picking a LB in the 1st round - they still value Edge highly - likely enough to pursue making Campbell an Edge, imo. I’d be surprised if that’s not the case.

For me, the primary reason I don’t buy the Campbell to Edge thinking is Fangio’s scheme. He loves deploying a light box, with its resultant benefit of having DeJean on the field as a 5th DB essentially all the time. In order to successfully do that you need LBs like Baun and Campbell who have the "do it all” athleticism that they have.

5 minutes ago, UK Eagle said:

I mean it from the sense of the animal being persistent in the face of circumstances where most others would give up. After last nights rebuffs, he'll start again tonight, I'd think

Howie is a wheeler and dealer. He's like a used car salesman in that regard. He's not going to let a few rejections slow him down, he's going to get right back at it again as soon as possible and likely already has some irons in the fire regarding where he can and where he can't get to just like last year with DeJean as the primary target. He knew right where to go for the deal he wanted to make, and it was mostly just about waiting for the pieces to fall in place. And fortunately for us, they all worked out beautifully.

6 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

They have two young guys that they are high on. They have two lottery tickets they are hoping can rebound, on one year deals. And they have a bust free agent that they likely would return if he was an Amazon delivery.

So, I don't see anything that would stop them from adding another edge player if he's the clear BPA.

Well said.

1 hour ago, Ace Nova said:

I’m not saying that could not happen eventually but that’s only if he doesn’t work out at Edge, imo.

Like @eagle45 said - as much as everyone may think Howie/The Eagles love the LB position all of a sudden by picking a LB in the 1st round - they still value Edge highly - likely enough to pursue making Campbell an Edge, imo. I’d be surprised if that’s not the case.

I just listened to Howie's press conference from last night. Howie was uncharacteristically frank.

It's very clear his projection as an edge factored into the pick. He specifically mentioned that Campbell was an edge and played off ball at Alabama due to other injuries. He specifically mentioned Parsons as a college off ball LB who transitioned to edge very effectively in the pros. It was a long, direct conversation about Campbell at edge.

But he also made it clear they are going to try to weaponize him and see what fits and works.

I think the best comps are are Parsons and, in a weird way, Cooper Dejean. They drafted Dejean because he was, by far, the best player on their board. No one knew if he'd fit best at outside CB, nickel CB, S...or where we really needed him. As it turns out, inside CB was where it worked. But that wasn't set in stone when they drafted him. Campbell may end up off ball only, edge only, or something in between. I think they are going to be fluid with it.

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If the Eagles truly see Campbell as an edge who can play LB, should we be devoting more valuable resources to edge?

Yeah... it kinda makes it hard to predict what else they do in the draft.

But Campbell, Smith, Hunt, Ojulari, Uche... I think there is no more room for any to 75 players there.

I think if you see another edge soon, it's someone who can put their hand on the ground a lot. Like maybe Scourton. Maybe Ingram-Dawkins... maybe Femi Oladejo?

Not gonna get Ezeiruaku if he's still there at the end of round 2.

I think the focus will be more in DT and secondary now.

3 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Even if he's not a pure LB. I still don't see why they couldn't/shouldn't add an edge if its the BPA.

Drafting specifically for need is a terrible way to roster build. And currently MORE THAN HALF of their EDGES are not going to be on the team after the 2025 season. (Uche and Ojulari are on one year deals, and Huff's deal can be terminated after this year to minimize the damage to the cap.). Only Smith and Hunt are under contract and likely to be here beyond 2025, as of today. Even if Campbell is a pure edge, I'd still see no problem with adding another one if he's BPA.

Uche/Ojulari seem like a catch-22, if they don’t pan out why keep them… if they prove to be useful we likely can’t afford the middle class contract to retain them.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Howie is a wheeler and dealer. He's like a used car salesman in that regard. He's not going to let a few rejections slow him down, he's going to get right back at it again as soon as possible and likely already has some irons in the fire regarding where he can and where he can't get to just like last year with DeJean as the primary target. He knew right where to go for the deal he wanted to make, and it was mostly just about waiting for the pieces to fall in place. And fortunately for us, they all worked out beautifully.

And in some respects, he's had drafts in a row to remind him. Sometimes it falls to you; you don't need to always go whacky in the moment to get the player that falls. Esp as you say, there are deals to be made

13 minutes ago, Utebird said:

What are the chances howie has s high grade on one of those guys and trades up like he did last year to snag him?

My crystal ball says the chances are very good.

2 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

As for the rest of the draft. Overall, quite dull outside of the Jags. What are they doing there? A great example of what not to do on draft day

Seeing Sanders fall from round 1 is kind of funny. Kid has talent, but the hoopla that surrounds him is too much for a top pick. He and his Dad need humbling.

For a year I've heard this draft for QBs wasn't good. They're treating him like he's great

Tallest midget

2 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

Uche/Ojulari seem like a catch-22, if they don’t pan out why keep them… if they prove to be useful we likely can’t afford the middle class contract to retain them.

If they work out and we can’t afford them, then like in the Becton case, we get a one year rental and a comp pick in 2027.

Just now, Waiting4Someday said:

Uche/Ojulari seem like a catch-22, if they don’t pan out why keep them… if they prove to be useful we likely can’t afford the middle class contract to keep them.

They are both rentals that might bring back a comp pick. I don't see 2026 free agency as a big splash on the open market with all the young guys that they are going to have to extend. So, you bring two guys in like this... let them compete. If they add another edge in the draft, then I think the writing on the wall is pretty clear. One of Uche and Ojulari is likely going to make the team, and one is likely going to get cut. And you hope you can get meaningful snaps from the one you keep and maybe you can leverage it into a comp pick in a couple years. OR... if Howie is open to considering it, extending him midseason to a reasonable deal before the market explodes on the guy.

But, they don't have enough skin in the game on either guy to force them to keep them and force them to look elsewhere in the draft today. If Edge is the BPA... snap him up, and figure the rest out later. This team thrives with their rotation along the front, especially at edge. Ojulari is 1 year at $3M. Uche is 1 year at $2M. Neither locks the team in at all.