2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I just remembered the Bryce Huff conditions still haven't leaked. Kinda crazy no one has that yet.

Also the details of the Nick Sirianni contract details haven't come out yet either a month later. Rumors starting to look true that he had to take a pay cut due to Lurie's continued deteriorating financial situation.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Also the details of the Nick Sirianni contract details haven't come out yet either a month later. Rumors starting to look true that he had to take a pay cut due to Lurie's continued deteriorating financial situation.

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28 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Context matters.

Ruggs was going an extra 55MPH than Sanders. He was drunk. Was Sanders? And he was on an interstate with limited access to the road, but Ruggs was on a road with a 45 mph speed limit.

So, one was 41 mph over the limit, and the other was over 100 mph over the limit. He should get a significant penalty, but not the same penalty as Ruggs.

Yeah, depending on the circumstances, it could just be reckless driving. I know I hit 93-94 at least once this week…with other traffic going the same speed

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

Should he receive Ruggs treatment even though he didn’t kill anybody?

I got a ticket once for going 101 in a 75, was a pretty pricey ticket, never was me going to jail a question.

So not sure what you mean by the ruggs treatment, Ruggs was speeding not on a highway, intoxicated and killed a person and a dog

Sanders was simply speeding on a highway, not sure how that compares to Ruggs

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I got a ticket once for going 101 in a 75, was a pretty pricey ticket, never was me going to jail a question.

So not sure what you mean by the ruggs treatment, Ruggs was speeding not on a highway, intoxicated and killed a person and a dog

Sanders was simply speeding on a highway, not sure how that compares to Ruggs

Lock him up!

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Context matters.

Ruggs was going an extra 55MPH than Sanders. He was drunk. Was Sanders? And he was on an interstate with limited access to the road, but Ruggs was on a road with a 45 mph speed limit.

So, one was 41 mph over the limit, and the other was over 100 mph over the limit. He should get a significant penalty, but not the same penalty as Ruggs.

If Sanders had rear ended a van of schoolchildren would you feel different? Your kid is 19. Sometimes young people makes foolish decisions. I would be the first in line to foregive either one of those kids. (For the grace of the Fates, that could have been me.).

And FYI, if Sanders was in Texas, there is a good chance the road he was on with a 60 MPH speed limit was identical to the 45 MPH zone that Ruggs was in. As you know, I grew up in Texas and visit there regularly. I was commenting to my FIL just a couple of weeks ago how the speed limit on the road toward his house goes from 40 to 50 right before the local high school. That 40 MPH road is just off an undivided road with a 75 MPH speed limit.

I just spent some time in Texas, I was in the Golden Triangle, Houston, the Hill Country out to Frederick, Killeen, up through Waco and the east side of Dallas and into deep east Texas. Only 60 MPH I can remember was construction between Beaumont and Houston, where the average speed was 75, only because of a slow moving log truck and around Killeen where the average speed was close to 85 MPH. Both were on interstates. Given where Sanders lives, I suspect the 60 MPH was a feeder road or a main thoroughfare, not unlike what Ruggs was on. Not excusing Ruggs, neither is he. (Texas is nuts. Since the Washington imposed 55 MPH speed limit, they have gone crazy with their speed limits, which some even exceed my level. Meanwhile they have and are fixing to make worse, the most oppressive pot laws in the country despite Toby Keith, Oklahoman, singing about smoking what we want to and Jon Pardi singing about smoking a doobie on the Guadalupe, something I have done.)

(BTW, I hope your kid is like my son. He so wanted to date his girlfriend, now fiancé, that he was willing to drive her in the backseat in high school and still drives like a grandma 14 years later. The fact he is living in VA where those fascists will jail a person for exceeding the speed limit more than 10 MPH results in jail doesn’t hurt. My daughter on the other hand inherited her mother’s lead foot. None of the drive as aggressively as me, thank the powers that be.)

In the hill country, there is a bourbon distillery, Garrison Brothers. We helped bottle over 2,000 bottles of there single barrel Red, White and Bourbon. 1,000 were destined for VA. I am going to visit my son sometime within the next month to see if I can grab a bottle we did. I love some of their stuff that you can’t get away from the distillery. The single barrel is really nice but their double barrel Balmorhea is one of those where you sip and say damn. @Texas Eagle , you really need to get to Hye.

7 hours ago, D-Shiznit said:

6m is hella cheap. Rare L by Howie by not signing him.

For better or worse, they've mailed it in this offseason. They won't sign anyone to any kind of money. Maybe they'll add an inexpensive veteran via trade near the deadline if things break a certain way, but that's it. Their approach has been very passive, which usually ends up being the weaker Howie offseasons.

3 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Should he receive Ruggs treatment even though he didn’t kill anybody?

He was drafted by the Browns.

He has suffered enough.

Driving 101… such a bad example for the children. Think about the children… total disgrace. Should be banned 2-10 games

My idea for an app is one where if a driver bombs past you on the road you can snap a video of them on your dashcam that will record their license plate number and speed. The video can be uploaded to law enforcement agencies for processing. Offending drivers get a $100-150 fine (or higher depending on severity) charged just the same as photo radar currently is, and the citizen reporting the offense gets 20% of the ticket value direct deposited to their bank account. This has several advantages:

— poor drivers are penalized and are subject to higher insurance rates

— less police manpower required for traffic enforcement so they can focus on violent crime

— less civic and state money spent on radar equipment

— an extra income stream for conscientious busybodies

— fewer road rage incidents

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

My idea for an app is one where if a driver bombs past you on the road you can snap a video of them on your dashcam that will record their license plate number and speed. The video can be uploaded to law enforcement agencies for processing. Offending drivers get a $100-150 fine (or higher depending on severity) charged just the same as photo radar currently is, and the citizen reporting the offense gets 20% of the ticket value direct deposited to their bank account. This has several advantages:

— poor drivers are penalized and are subject to higher insurance rates

— less police manpower required for traffic enforcement so they can focus on violent crime

— less civic and state money spent on radar equipment

— an extra income stream for conscientious busybodies

— fewer road rage incidents

Narc

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

I got a ticket once for going 101 in a 75, was a pretty pricey ticket, never was me going to jail a question.

So not sure what you mean by the ruggs treatment, Ruggs was speeding not on a highway, intoxicated and killed a person and a dog

Sanders was simply speeding on a highway, not sure how that compares to Ruggs

I’m sorry but a dog is property (no disrespect @just relax as we had this discussion long ago with Vick, love my cat and would greatly miss him, but under the law, he is property) so Ruggs caused a human death and property damage due to recklessness. He stood up and was a man by accepting responsibility in his plea and serving a sentence handed down by the court. No criminal intent in his crime, just poor judgment.

9 hours ago, Diehardfan said:

Yeah, but I'd like them to have the best guys and as good as Ringo can be he isn't Alexander for 6 million. That would have been a really smart move by Howie to have a top player when healthy and depth. Maybe he gets hurt and Ringo would have played anyway, but insurance for one year would have been nice.

I agree with this even though I am confident in Ringo. Injuriues happen, maybe Ringo is only average and Alexander would be, at worse, a heck of an insurance policy for $6m. This season is more than just finding out about young players. This season is about going back-to-back.

1 hour ago, Eagles1960 said:

I agree with this even though I am confident in Ringo. Injuriues happen, maybe Ringo is only average and Alexander would be, at worse, a heck of an insurance policy for $6m. This season is more than just finding out about young players. This season is about going back-to-back.

This season is about finding young players and if we go on a run then that’s a bonus. Of course we are still one of the better teams in the NFL and we should be looking at the NFCCG… But there’s no doubt we’ve gotten worse this offseason and the moves made have been about having cap space for next year etc.

9 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

He should get a significant penalty, but not the same penalty as Ruggs.

I'd sentence him to play for the Cleveland Bro…

Oh wait…

13 hours ago, mattwill said:

HIGHLY questionable? Your hyperbole meter is running overtime. Either that or your pessimism gene is kicking in.

Medium questionable?

IDK, it seems there's a big difference between going 116 mph over the speed limit and driving around 30 over the speed limit. There's also a difference between speeding and manslaughter.

9 hours ago, BigEFly said:

If Sanders had rear ended a van of schoolchildren would you feel different? Your kid is 19. Sometimes young people makes foolish decisions. I would be the first in line to foregive either one of those kids. (For the grace of the Fates, that could have been me.).

And FYI, if Sanders was in Texas, there is a good chance the road he was on with a 60 MPH speed limit was identical to the 45 MPH zone that Ruggs was in. As you know, I grew up in Texas and visit there regularly. I was commenting to my FIL just a couple of weeks ago how the speed limit on the road toward his house goes from 40 to 50 right before the local high school. That 40 MPH road is just off an undivided road with a 75 MPH speed limit.

I just spent some time in Texas, I was in the Golden Triangle, Houston, the Hill Country out to Frederick, Killeen, up through Waco and the east side of Dallas and into deep east Texas. Only 60 MPH I can remember was construction between Beaumont and Houston, where the average speed was 75, only because of a slow moving log truck and around Killeen where the average speed was close to 85 MPH. Both were on interstates. Given where Sanders lives, I suspect the 60 MPH was a feeder road or a main thoroughfare, not unlike what Ruggs was on. Not excusing Ruggs, neither is he. (Texas is nuts. Since the Washington imposed 55 MPH speed limit, they have gone crazy with their speed limits, which some even exceed my level. Meanwhile they have and are fixing to make worse, the most oppressive pot laws in the country despite Toby Keith, Oklahoman, singing about smoking what we want to and Jon Pardi singing about smoking a doobie on the Guadalupe, something I have done.)

(BTW, I hope your kid is like my son. He so wanted to date his girlfriend, now fiancé, that he was willing to drive her in the backseat in high school and still drives like a grandma 14 years later. The fact he is living in VA where those fascists will jail a person for exceeding the speed limit more than 10 MPH results in jail doesn’t hurt. My daughter on the other hand inherited her mother’s lead foot. None of the drive as aggressively as me, thank the powers that be.)

In the hill country, there is a bourbon distillery, Garrison Brothers. We helped bottle over 2,000 bottles of there single barrel Red, White and Bourbon. 1,000 were destined for VA. I am going to visit my son sometime within the next month to see if I can grab a bottle we did. I love some of their stuff that you can’t get away from the distillery. The single barrel is really nice but their double barrel Balmorhea is one of those where you sip and say damn. @Texas Eagle , you really need to get to Hye.

Context matters. Sanders wasn't in Texas, he was in Ohio. I know the exact road Sanders was ticketed on, as I've driven it a few times myself (I-71 in Strongsville, OH). It's an interstate highway, with limited access. A dramatically different road than Ruggs. The likelihood that he'd have rear-ended a stopped vehicle like Ruggs did was very low, but if he did that would change the context. Ruggs was so impared he didn't even notice that stopped vehicle in front of him. Sanders was aware enough that when the lights and siren showed up, he pulled over.

But again this is apples to pomegranates. Add another 55 mph to Sanders and we can talk about it differently.

156 mph vs. 101 mph.

111 mph OVER the speed limit vs. 41 mph over the limit.

Way over the legal limit blood alcohol vs unknown blood alcohol.

And yes, the fact that one crashed and the other didn't also matters, because one couldn't control his vehicle at that speed and the other seemed more capable, not surprisingly given that the speed was 1/3 slower!

Youth is not a defense. When getting behind the wheel, you take on certain responsibilities, if you can't do it responsibly, then you shouldn't drive. Driving is a privilege, not a right. I've had those conversations with my son. It's up to him to act accordingly, and I have to trust that he'll make the right decisions.

The same goes for drinking, if you can't do it responsibly, you shouldn't be doing that either. Ruggs failed at both, miserably. Sanders doesn't measure up in his failure on either count. He was driving significantly slower, and the fact that we haven't heard about it as a DUI would indicate that his BAC was significantly lower, if over the limit at all.

8 hours ago, Alphagrand said:

My idea for an app is one where if a driver bombs past you on the road you can snap a video of them on your dashcam that will record their license plate number and speed. The video can be uploaded to law enforcement agencies for processing. Offending drivers get a $100-150 fine (or higher depending on severity) charged just the same as photo radar currently is, and the citizen reporting the offense gets 20% of the ticket value direct deposited to their bank account. This has several advantages:

— poor drivers are penalized and are subject to higher insurance rates

— less police manpower required for traffic enforcement so they can focus on violent crime

— less civic and state money spent on radar equipment

— an extra income stream for conscientious busybodies

— fewer road rage incidents

Snitches get stitches...

14 hours ago, BigEFly said:

Should he receive Ruggs treatment even though he didn’t kill anybody?

Sounds like he was racing his girlfriend who was doing 92mph

https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/nfl/browns/strongsville-police-cleveland-browns-shedeur-sanders-caught-driving-101-mph-i-71/95-60ce86e8-429f-4aac-bfdd-5e7c94ffb21c

8 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I’m sorry but a dog is property (no disrespect @just relax as we had this discussion long ago with Vick, love my cat and would greatly miss him, but under the law, he is property) so Ruggs caused a human death and property damage due to recklessness. He stood up and was a man by accepting responsibility in his plea and serving a sentence handed down by the court. No criminal intent in his crime, just poor judgment.

It’s truly impressive just how foolish you’ve made yourself sound over your last few posts - well done

10 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

It’s truly impressive just how foolish you’ve made yourself sound over your last few posts - well done

How so?

7 minutes ago, just relax said:

How so?

You don’t think it’s foolish to make a comparison between someone who killed a person and someone who was simply speeding? That dude was in here defending Ruggs right after it happened too. And to top it off calling a dog simply "property”? F that

9 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I’m sorry but a dog is property

Uh no. Not according to the law. You can neglect and destroy your own property all you want but animal cruelty laws mean doing the same with your dog will land you in court. I can tell you grew up in an era where pets were treated like crap but this is the 21st century, and I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that sort of thing doesn't fly anymore.

35 minutes ago, mikemack8 said:

You don’t think it’s foolish to make a comparison between someone who killed a person and someone who was simply speeding? That dude was in here defending Ruggs right after it happened too. And to top it off calling a dog simply "property”? F that

I'm not going to relitigate the speeding and the consequences thereof. As for the dog, @BigEFly 's statement was "under the law, he is property." That is simply a statement of fact. No one here was more harsh, disgusted, and furious than I when the Eagles signed Vick. I quit the Blog and didn't watch an Eagles game for some years. I view Vick's actions with dogs as far worse than Ruggs' actions though the consequences of the latter were far greater and more tragic. Vick's intent was clear and vile; Ruggs' was not.

Both paid for their actions.