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18 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I hope they're actually healthy

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How Can the Eagles Fix Their Broken Offense?

Step one: Stop being so predictable. Step two: Get A.J. Brown open. Step three: Prosper?
35 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

It’s uncanny how Hurts haters forget the dozens and dozens of plays he’s made that have won us games but remember the one or two bad plays he’s made. And they harp on those two plays for weeks.

It really is a disorder.

Hurts Derangement Syndrome

H.D.S.

Was it Hurts or someone else that led the biggest collapse in an NFL season? Maybe I'm misremembering. This is not to say he hasn't done good things, either.

I know, I know, the defense was bad. The coaching was a mess. He did nothing when the situation wasn't perfect.

It goes both ways and to pretend it's "one or two bad plays" is hilariously false.

Now that is Hurts Derangement Symptom

If Brady and BB apart has showed us anything it is definitely choose the HC instead of the QB

Especially when that HC brings nothing to the table on the offensive or defensive side (unlike BB) and has already been at the head of one epic collapse in 2023 and might be at the head of another. Yeah go with the cheerleader HC whose hand picked his friend to be the OC who has been the worst play caller in the league.

Hurts is 23-15 on bad/ugly teams as a starter. McNabb was about 15-23

He is 26-4 on elite teams. McNabb was far worse.

Feel free to find QBs who are better on elite or sloppy teams.

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Bengals have scored 136 points in 7 games. The Eagles have scored 142 in 6. Why can't we be more like the Bengals?

All 136 points have been scored by the Bengals offense. 130 of the 142 points have been scored by the Eagles offense.

Bengals offense averages 19.42 PPG.

Eagles offense averages 21.67 PPG.

The fact that an offense led by Jalen Hurts averages just over 2 PPG more than an offense that had Jake Browning start 5 games is not the flex you think it is.

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

Was it Hurts or someone else that led the biggest collapse in an NFL season? Maybe I'm misremembering. This is not to say he hasn't done good things, either.

I know, I know, the defense was bad. The coaching was a mess. He did nothing when the situation wasn't perfect.

It goes both ways and to pretend it's "one or two bad plays" is hilariously false.

Now that is Hurts Derangement Symptom

2 Super Bowl appearances in 3 years + a Super Bowl Championship/Super Bowl MVP.

And you’re harping about the year in between the two Super Bowl appearances?

Yep - HDS for sure. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

2 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

And Rodgers does almost nothing well in 2025. He sucks.

The only thing he did well last night is exactly what Hurts does well.

I guess he puts up 50/50 balls to DK Metcalf and they usually pan out or its a pick?

He's pretty good for a 42 year old, but again, this isn't Rodgers vs Hurts. You can pick any QB who has the ability to get out of the pocket and keep their eyes down field and make plays. I used Rodgers because he played last night. It's just something Hurts doesn't do well. He doesn't see the field well or process information well. I think it's one of many factors for why they run the specific offenses that they do and why the offense has struggled this season.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

2 Super Bowl appearances in 3 years + a Super Bowl Championship/Super Bowl MVP.

And you’re harping about the year in between the two Super Bowl appearances?

Yep - HDS for sure. Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

No, I'm pointing out how asinine it is to claim he's had "one or two" bad plays.

He has one to two bad plays on almost every drive this season alone.

Get your face out of his crack for two seconds

1 minute ago, Swoop said:

No, I'm pointing out how asinine it is to claim he's has "one or two" bad plays.

He has one to two bad plays on almost every drive this season alone.

Get your face out of his crack for two seconds

No, obviously he hasn’t or this team would be 0-6.

But part of HDS are delusions so I don’t blame you for thinking that.

The enforces came out in force lol

5 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

No, obviously he hasn’t or this team would be 0-6.

But part of HDS are delusions so I don’t blame you for thinking that.

I'd advise you actually watch the games moving forward.

He can barely pass the ball every second half of almost every game this entire season and if you aren't aware of that, then this will likely be the last time I bother with you

28 minutes ago, Swoop said:

No, the issue is that the rest of the team isn't as elite, he's playing laughably bad for at least two quarters every week and we have been let off the hook by some very, very lucky bounces that have gone our way.

What should be done?

Just now, NOTW said:

What should be done?

I'm not saying bench him nor am I saying he's the only one at fault.

He needs to be better. He's been abysmal when they need him. The play calling and OL need to be better as well.

Fact remains that things are not going to be ideal regularly and he needs to not keep missing reads/layups.

He can be wildly inconsistent. His highs are amazing, but his lows are horrific. When things aren't great he needs to avoid the horrific. The 0/8 (or whatever it was) in a half against the Bucs is something you or I could do.

With an offense that can’t find a way to get its star receiver easier chances to create explosive plays and a running game that lacks the layers necessary to keep defenses off-balance, Hurts is under tremendous pressure to be an efficient passer from the pocket. Unfortunately, quick decision-making has never been one of Hurts’s strengths. Hurts’s average time to throw (or get sacked) is 2.95 seconds this year, the fourth-longest mark in the league. When he’s not pressured, his average time to throw is the longest in the league, at 2.62 seconds. Given how simple and repetitive Philadelphia’s passing game can be, it’s confounding that Hurts still holds on to the ball as long as he does. 

There are typically quick throws available to Hurts if he recognizes the coverage, as seen in the clip below. 

This snap actually accomplishes most of what I’d want to see from Philadelphia’s offense, yet it still ends with Hurts holding the ball before checking it down. Brown ends up in the slot after a motion from his teammate, and that motion reveals that Kansas City is playing some kind of man coverage (as we’ve noted, something that’s become increasingly rare), but we still see the Eagles run a simple concept with a double move from Smith and a whip route from Brown. If Hurts wanted to throw to Smith, he should have taken that chance no matter the coverage. If Hurts was trying to go through his progression, though, a two-deep shell should’ve eliminated Smith on the double move and taken him to Brown, who was wide open. But Hurts’s hesitancy to throw/delay in getting the ball out to Brown meant this completion was good for only a marginal gain. 

Plays like that are all over the Eagles’ tape this season. Hurts is hanging out in the pocket or trying to extend plays after missing potential throws. While his tendency to hold on to the ball is an inherent part of his game, it’s hurting the Eagles now because the team isn’t running the ball reliably on early downs and isn’t manufacturing explosive passes to dynamic players like Brown and Smith. At this point, it would be unfair to expect Hurts to turn into a different kind of quarterback, so Patullo and Sirianni must rediscover the bedrock of their offense and what they did so well during last year’s dominant postseason run.

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How Can the Eagles Fix Their Bro...
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How Can the Eagles Fix Their Broken Offense?

Step one: Stop being so predictable. Step two: Get A.J. Brown open. Step three: Prosper?

42 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Don't disagree. But the guy has had a different offensive coordinator every year. No stability at all there. Might take a little while here to figure this out. That's if we ever get healthy on the O-line.

How long was Flacco working with the OC he had last night? Hurtscuses...

17 minutes ago, NOTW said:

What should be done?

Switch QBs so the offense can function.

9 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

How long was Flacco working with the OC he had last night? Hurtscuses...

We had Flacco. He was hot garbage while here. He's on his 50th team. He's used to playing on the fly.

3 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

That's your counter to wanting to give the ball to Brown more? Odd

Do you dispute his numbers?

@mattwill 23-21 Birds, Hurts responds to the pressure with 2 rushing TDs; Wentz with 2 turnovers.

I think we should all go back to HERO BALL with Carson Wentz. With the great arm and can make every throw on the field reputation. Ought to be fun!! Hurts trade for Wentz, after Wentz goes off on this putrid secondary this weekend. I'm sure he will throw at least 2 picks. But he will look good doing it. That's all that matters.

And for good measure...of course we get Eagles legend...Carson Strong... back in here as QB2. 2 Carsons are better than one.

Just now, jojodancer said:

I think we should all go back to HERO BALL with Carson Wentz. With the great arm and can make every throw on the field repuatation. Ought to be fun!! Hurts trade for Wentz, after Wentz goes off on this putrid secondary this weekend. I'm sure he will throw at least 2 picks. But he will look good doing it. That's all that matters.

Hope we crush the Vikings, their 2025 hopes, and they sell us Andrew Van Ginkel just as his neck suddenly recovers.

54 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Both lines are depleted with injuries or half injuries.

Completely disagree with this. O-line is missing one guy, the rest are healthy enough to practice fully every day and not be on the injury report. D-line is missing one DT and one DE. No one else besides the 5th DE who wasn't even active most weeks is healthy. I think fans are getting spoiled with health the last few years and having two Super Bowl seasons with 99% of the starting units from Week 1 playing.

It's football. Injuries happen. Eagles still haven't had a real devastating injury to players that really matter besides Nolan Smith who isn't even expected out long. The issue is, which I have argued about this with people like @Diehardfan before the season even started, is the depth on the D-line sucks. The line is one good DT who is under performing and the rest are jags. The O-line really has no excuse because they shouldn't look this bad just because they let Becton walk.

If you want to look at teams actually depleted with injuries, look at the Lions or the Bucs. They managed to survive.

Aikman on teams that were not elite (excluding his rookie dumpster fire)

48 wins 46 losses

Should we revoke his Hall pass?

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Eagles 26

Vikings 24

Eagles score points in every quarter.

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