11 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

That is the most obvious thing ever. This will be Brown's last season here.

Hurts' last season*

I hate to kill the dreams of the hopeful here, but both Brown and Hurts will be Eagles next season

Hurts hit the League MVP Quality Bar in 2022. That's all that should matter. The pick is meaningless.

League MVP is just a vote. Lamar was MVP on the field last year but Allen got the narrative vote. The vote did not make Allen better.

Randall was max awesome in 1998 but so was Terrell Davis. Was Randall bad now because of a vote by 50+ randos?

Randall lost a popularity contest to Joe Montana in 1990

Did the life experiences and drop back passer biases of the voters make Randall worse on the field that year?

He was top 2 or 3 in MVP in 1988.

This should mean HoF in his first 5 years of eligibility unless the same people are part of a corrupt system where you are the voters for MVP and HoF.

They actually rigged the MVP vote one year to make a tie for Favre.

Hurts was an MVP on the field in 2022 but so was Mahomes. Mahomes won the popularity contest.

SB MVP is 100x better than league MVP unless you have no idea how team sports work or what matters.

Rodgers is a 4x league MVP. He was 2-4 in the playoffs those years.

Are Boomer, Sipe, McNair, and Gannon better than Drew Brees because he never won the popularity contest even though he had 3 to 5 MVP level seasons?

The MVP he did get was more important than any regular season vote.

55 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Take notes on the defense, run game, and OC, Marty. Hurts will need all that to win again.

Might need a wellness check on Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis watching this Georgia defense.

4 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

Hurts hit the League MVP Quality Bar in 2022. That's All that should matter. The pick is meaningless.

League MVP is just a vote. Lamar was MVP on the field last year but Allen got the narrative vote. The vote did not make Allen better.

Randall was max awesome in 1998 but so was Terrell Davis. Was Randall bad now because of a vote by 50+ randos?

Randall lost a popularity contest to Joe Montana in 1990

Did the life experiences and drop back passer biases of the voters make Randall worse on the field that year?

He was top 2 or 3 in MVP in 1988.

This should mean HoF in his first 5 years of eligibility unless the same people are part of a corrupt system where you are the voters for MVP and HoF.

They actually rigged the MVP vote one year to make a tie for Sanders and Favre.

Hurts was an MVP on the field in 2022 but so was Mahomes. Mahomes won the popularity contest.

SB MVP is 100x better than league MVP unless you have no idea how team sports work or what matters.

Rodgers is a 4x league MVP. He was 2-4 in the playoffs those years.

Are Boomer, Sipe, McNair, and Gannon better than Drew Brees because he never won the popularity contest even though he had 3 to 5 MVP level seasons?

The MVP he did get was more important than any regular season vote.

Give any of them the best WR pair in the league, that RB, that OL and a defense that holds the other team to 6 points until the 4th QT and all of them have rings

Foles also hit the MVP Quality Bar in 2013.

McNabb did as well in 2004 and 2000 was damn close but would be more appreciated in 2025 then it was back then.

Jaws was very good in 1980 and probably hit that bar as well. Then he had 7 picks in the playoffs after 12 in the regular season.

He was a major reason they lost the SB, but he was League MVP level in the regular season.

17 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I hate to kill the dreams of the hopeful here, but both Brown and Hurts will be Eagles next season

His contract out is after 2026. If they get rid of him next year it would be a cap crusher. It would have to be a Hershel Walker level trade for a mentally unstable diva. 0% chance.

Just now, SkippyX said:

His contract out is after 2026. If they get rid of him next year it would be a cap crusher. It would have to be a Hershel Walker level trade for a mentally unstable diva. 0% chance.

But why again are we trying to push him out? Because his postgame interviews after losses aren’t cheerful?

7 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Might need a wellness check on Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis watching this Georgia defense.

Is Davis even dealing with injuries or did he run through his max conditioning already?

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Take notes on the defense, run game, and OC, Marty. Hurts will need all that to win again.

Yeah, no other QB needs that. Hurts is the only QB in the league that needs a talented team around him to win. Stafford won so much in Detroit, Dak has won so much with the amazing defense. Heck, Mahomes was amazing in the last SB with that incredible offensive line.

1 minute ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

But why again are we trying to push him out? Because his postgame interviews after losses aren’t cheerful?

I'm not pushing him anywhere. He should be an adult, not quit on plays, and work on his attitude.

I'm actually quasi-tolerant of him being a complete idiot off the field as long as he does not quit on perfect deep balls.

None of this is on Hurts. Hurts is an adult. Hurts fed AJ in 2022 and 2023 like few QBs do. AJ had that 125+ yard streak in 2023.

The team as a whole made the choice to feed a 2K Sa' If this made AJ sad then he is Carson Wentz 2.0

This year is mostly on the line, scheme, and play calling. If AJ is open and Hurts is alive, AJ is getting the ball.

We are frustrated. The actual players have to be way more frustrated than we are. Their maturity levels vary.

12 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

But why again are we trying to push him out? Because his postgame interviews after losses aren’t cheerful?

It's not allowed to be Hurts fault. So it must be Brown

@mattwill gotta change up the prediction this week in hopes of a different outcome…

Eagles 13 Vikings 30

Bonus: J. Hurts 2 Ints

The coaches refuse to embrace Play Action.

Do you know what Play Action does?

It pulls the linebackers and maybe a safety closer to the line so you can throw easier 8-20 yard passes behind them.

OMG! Hurts is not throwing enough 10-20 yard passes!!!!

I wonder if there is a correlation?

Note: Countless analysis has shown always that play action works regardless of how good your run game is.

It may be mroe effective with a great run game but it is always effective.

Emanuel Acho said it this week. THE OTHER TEAM KNOWS WHAT THE EAGLES PLAYS ARE BEFORE THE SNAP A GOOD 75% OF THE TIME.

He said that he is just a former LB watching All-22 in his bathrobe all night picking this up, imagine what NFL defensive coaches can see.

I ask this every time they do it. Why not fill the 53rd spot? I know you can't dress 53 on Sunday, but doesn't it help to have a full cupboard to choose from? No Gabe Hall?

People will be watching these 2 plays 50 years from now.

How dare that QB lead the team to a couple Super Bowls and throw AJ TDs in those Super Bowls! Its an Outrage!

10 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

I'm not pushing him anywhere. He should be an adult, not quit on plays, and work on his attitude.

I'm actually quasi-tolerant of him being a complete idiot off the field as long as he does not quit on perfect deep balls.

None of this is on Hurts. Hurts is an adult. Hurts fed AJ in 2022 and 2023 like few QBs do. AJ had that 125+ yard streak in 2023.

The team as a whole made the choice to feed a 2K Sa' If this made AJ sad then he is Carson Wentz 2.0

This year is mostly on the line, scheme, and play calling. If AJ is open and Hurts is alive, AJ is getting the ball.

We are frustrated. The actual players have to be way more frustrated than we are. Their maturity levels vary.

The whole thing is so overblown. We had TO. Unless a guy gets halfway to TO level distraction, then who f'ing cares? He is soft with the social media stuff? WE ARE SOFT if we can't tolerate some of that. He doesn't need to grow up, the fan base does.

And as for this quitting on routes crap, show me one receiver anywhere, ever who doesn't dog some routes. Guy blocks, gets excellent YAC, and fights for tough 50 50 balls. He just wants a few good passes per game. Sheesh.

Ok, I feel better. Rant over. Fly Eagles Fly.

7 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The coaches refuse to embrace Play Action.

Do you know what Play Action does?

It pulls the linebackers and maybe a safety closer to the line so you can throw easier 8-20 yard passes behind them.

OMG! Hurts is not throwing enough 10-20 yard passes!!!!

I wonder if there is a correlation?

Note: Countless analysis has shown always that play action works regardless of how good your run game is.

It may be mroe effective with a great run game but it is always effective.

Emanuel Acho said it this week. THE OTHER TEAM KNOWS WHAT THE EAGLES PLAYS ARE BEFORE THE SNAP A GOOD 75% OF THE TIME.

Bc you have a qb with weak processing who cant take his eyes off the defense

@jamiller TO AND McNabb were both low EQ people.

Wentz and Alshon were both also low EQ dudes.

Wentz not talking to adult Doug Pederson was 100% Wentz.

I don't think there was going to be a good outcome with TO but McNabb verbally fought with him privately and publicly.

No way would Hurts do this. He is a high EQ adult like Doug.

6 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

The coaches refuse to embrace Play Action.

Do you know what Play Action does?

It pulls the linebackers and maybe a safety closer to the line so you can throw easier 8-20 yard passes behind them.

OMG! Hurts is not throwing enough 10-20 yard passes!!!!

I wonder if there is a correlation?

Note: Countless analysis has shown always that play action works regardless of how good your run game is.

It may be mroe effective with a great run game but it is always effective.

Emanuel Acho said it this week. THE OTHER TEAM KNOWS WHAT THE EAGLES PLAYS ARE BEFORE THE SNAP A GOOD 75% OF THE TIME.

Don't disagree, but like others have said the Eagles aren't a big play action pass team. I would love to see more of it with Saquan and our receivers. To others point, is it a coaching decision or a QB comfort decision?

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Bc you have a qb with weak processing who cant take his eyes off the defense

TLDNR: 1987 called. They want their Eagles QB "can't read defenses" parrot squawk back.

The problem with this embracing this absurd concept is that this was not the case for Hurts in any other year of the last 3 in college and years 2-present in the NFL.

Rookie year is rough for NFL QBs and Hurts barely played. None of us can pretend to know what he did or did not have down yet.

Anyone who thinks 2023 was a processing problem is just wrong. Hurts was an MVP through 11 weeks. The problem was the scheme and play calling did not have adequate blitz handling.

They have been better than 2023 vs the blitz this year but they have been completely awful in some really basic stuff.

2023 was about the defense and about the 2 best regular season teams Dallas and SF just destroying the Eagles top to bottom. After that it was different.

Hurts had about 2 really bad plays vs the Jets and Seattle. The worst vs Seattle was going for a deep 50/50 ball and all the haters now seem to want him to try more 50/50.

Patullo taking an extra 8 to 10 seconds to get the play call to Hurts is new and 100% Patullo. If you think otherwise its because you are so full of hate for Hurts that you are incapable of processing information.

There are none so blind as those who think certain NFL QBs have a kryptonite but the opposing defenses are just being nice to him so he can win games year after year.

53 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Yeah, no other QB needs that. Hurts is the only QB in the league that needs a talented team around him to win. Stafford won so much in Detroit, Dak has won so much with the amazing defense. Heck, Mahomes was amazing in the last SB with that incredible offensive line.

Basically, yeah.

FWIW good dual threat QBs have to be better processors because they need to know the pressure, the coverage, the routes and what is opening up, plus they also need to know where the escape lanes are if they do run. They have to switch from being a full QB to a full RB right away. Its amazing that some people could think this is easy or that these players are somehow not intelligent.

How many QBs play in high school? 20k? 40k? They get filtered through college and the pros until the cream rises to the top.

Your JaMarcus Russell and Johnny Manzel types have all the talent they need but they can't get the mental game down at this level.

Hurts went to the 2nd round because people thought he could not make that next step. They were clearly wrong.

If you are Justin Fields you can't get to the point where you can handle all of that. If you are Hurts, Lamar, Mahomes, Allen, and maybe Baker the last few years... your superior brain works in combination with your superior body.

Mahomes is not as frequent a runner as the others but he knows where he can go to buy more time so some of his run lanes are Fran Tarkenton style sideways or backwards to give receivers time to get free. If he really needs it then he runs.

Its weird how you all can accept that McKee was a 6th who should have been a late 2nd or a 3rd based on what he has shown but insist that Hurts is not 1st round material and limited.

Eagles didn’t bother filling the 53rd spot on the roster this week. They are totally bringing Graham back.