1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I’m not wishing for it, but watch Trader Howie get te same package for AJ as he gave up for AJ.

He basically can't until after June 1, when you will get a crap return. It's not happening.

Just now, vikas83 said:

He basically can't until after June 1, when you will get a crap return. It's not happening.

I wasn’t thinking about this season. Some future season.

1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

At CB, I have no idea who we could bring in that could learn the system and help.

Go after a veteran that can pick-up on the schemes quickly if that's possible. Get someone that is smart and communicates well, the rest will take care of itself. There is someone out there that would fit and be impactful, just got to find them.

Just now, mattwill said:

I wasn’t thinking about this season. Some future season.

Even this offseason, he can't be moved until after June 1. He's here through the 2026 season, and then they can move off him.

Just now, Joe Ball said:

Go after a veteran that can pick-up on the schemes quickly if that's possible. Get someone that is smart and communicates well, the rest will take care of itself. There is someone out there that would fit and be impactful, just got to find them.

I'd rather sign Gilmore off the street than trade for someone.

Like 10 teams are pursuing Edge Rushers. I'd rather pay a fair price on a good corner than overpay for a non needle moving Edge. I like Jermaine Johnson, but I don't think I'd even give up a 3rd for him. But if you could get Denzel Ward for a 3rd. Or Sneed for a 4th. Then this secondary is well off again.

Just now, vikas83 said:

I'd rather sign Gilmore off the street than trade for someone.

Definitely the way to go...avoiding a trade that is...that way you are only out what you are paying them...

On 10/16/2025 at 11:41 AM, vikas83 said:

Here's the math on trading AJ. So it's ~$50mm after the 2026 season, and we can manage that. We only have like $40mm in cap space for 2026, so we really can't take all that dead money in 2026. Would leave us completely screwed, and there's really no one to restructure to free up cash either.

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Even this offseason, he can't be moved until after June 1. He's here through the 2026 season, and then they can move off him.

That was what I was getting at … when that future event happens Trader Howie getting a 1st for him.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Like 10 teams are pursuing Edge Rushers. I'd rather pay a fair price on a good corner than overpay for a non needle moving Edge. I like Jermaine Johnson, but I don't think I'd even give up a 3rd for him. But if you could get Denzel Ward for a 3rd. Or Sneed for a 4th. Then this secondary is well off again.

Ward would likely be a one year rental -- no guaranteed money after this year, and we can't afford a $20mm/year corner for 2026 and 2027 (maybe if convert to bonuses and void years).

Sneed is also out of guarantees after this year and a one year rental.

AJ is not going anywhere imo. I think hes just trolling the media now with his tweets :)

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Here's the math on trading AJ. So it's ~$50mm after the 2026 season, and we can manage that. We only have like $40mm in cap space for 2026, so we really can't take all that dead money in 2026. Would leave us completely screwed, and there's really no one to restructure to free up cash either.

Need column headers to follow your spreadsheet. How can his Dead Cap not be going down each year?

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Some WIP caller yesterday called in and said "yea I would take a flier on Sauce Gardner for CB2".

So Adoree Jackson and 5th should get it done.

13 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'd rather sign Gilmore off the street than trade for someone.

I wonder if he soft retired. It's weird he's still out there with no one even looking at him.

14 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I'd rather sign Gilmore off the street than trade for someone.

I'd be good with him or AS Jr who can't tackle but he can't look Jackson or Ringo bad in coverage. What moves would you like to see them make

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Some WIP caller yesterday called in and said "yea I would take a flier on Sauce Gardner for CB2".

So Adoree Jackson and 5th should get it done.

McKee for Sauce and Johnson. He can throw Woody

Curious as to what makes being a sports fan difficult for a woman. They've geared the league to be as friendly as possible to women. Woah is me.

6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Need column headers to follow your spreadsheet. How can his Dead Cap not be going down each year?

Because he gets $30M option bonuses every year

3 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Curious as to what makes being a sports fan difficult for a woman. They've geared the league to be as friendly as possible to women. Woah is me.

Seems like clickbait that you fell for

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I wonder if he soft retired. It's weird he's still out there with no one even looking at him.

Bringing players out of retirement is sorta our thing now.

17 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Like 10 teams are pursuing Edge Rushers. I'd rather pay a fair price on a good corner than overpay for a non needle moving Edge. I like Jermaine Johnson, but I don't think I'd even give up a 3rd for him. But if you could get Denzel Ward for a 3rd. Or Sneed for a 4th. Then this secondary is well off again.

again.

If we have to spend assets in one area, then it's definitely the secondary. The front 7 is good enough with Dean back, with Smith returning, BG boost and Fangio calling the shots. I'm concerned about secondary. Blankenship down year. Makuba still searching. And the burden on Coop and Quinyon is overboard. They are asked to do more than last year and are doing good, but not great. Need someone there to kinda have everyone in their defined roles and comfortable. Last year was seamless and had very few big mistakes. Gonna be tough doing that all that in midseason. Not sure there is that one answer. Cheapest way out is to get CJGJ ( who at least knows the defense and can play slot) and Samuel (if medically cleared) and can bring along slowly and have snaps increase each week and hopefully peaking by playoffs. Think Fangio can figure it out with all the versatility back there.

And if Howie can grab a cheap rotational DT to give Carter a breather, I'm there. A Joseph or Suh type for comparison.

16 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Here's the math on trading AJ. So it's ~$50mm after the 2026 season, and we can manage that. We only have like $40mm in cap space for 2026, so we really can't take all that dead money in 2026. Would leave us completely screwed, and there's really no one to restructure to free up cash either.

I'd rather we just implement him and Smith more into the actual targets. Good things happen when you target them

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Some WIP caller yesterday called in and said "yea I would take a flier on Sauce Gardner for CB2".

So Adoree Jackson and 5th should get it done.

What is Sauce’s contract status?

5 hours ago, Eriv20 said:

He averaged 5 sacks per year over a 15 year span. He is what he is. A great personality, average player. BUT now he’s old

Didn't you use the term "washed?"

That's absurd. Go watch some of his games from last year, he was awesome in that Rams game before he went out

Come join the island of Misfit Returners