3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Which is why it may have been a mistake to count of them to be the starters this year while not addressing the position. I know letting Josh Sweat move on was the right move, but he's still balling out in AZ. They did nothing to replace him. Signing Z'Darius Smith after week 1 doesn't count either. He played like gangbusters in week 2, but came back down to Earth this past week. Ojulari, Uche and Ogbo were the bare minimum moves and two of them haven't even dressed this year.

I know the players have to be there to sign/draft and that keeping the cap flexible so they can give the young Eagles their next contracts is important but I just think it was a huge oversight to rely so much on Smith, Hunt and a bunch of 1-year vets.

I don’t think it was a mistaken decision, but rather a player development decision. Lots of players, especially young players, but not all players, benefit from getting live repetitions in game situations. Their coaches also get film of those live repetitions to use in educating/ improving the player(s). Following that player development strategy isn’t without cost though, and that cost shows up in the early games where the inexperience causes mistakes. Ideally as the season progresses, the mistakes get fewer and fewer in number and the splash plays get more frequent.

Bottom-line, it is a calculated risk rather than a mistake … in my opinion.

20 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Would it then be considered an incomplete forward pas and the ball is placed at the original LOS? Of course. The penalty on Carter negated that.

If you are going by the letter of the law, then yes, it would be considered an incomplete pass and a turnover on downs.

48 minutes ago, shlo said:

The scores in Game 1 were a lot of Hurts scrambling on broken plays so I don't really even look at that as a success for Patullo.

I respectfully disagree about those plays being broken. Broken connotes that the Offense mishandled the play. In reality, Dallas fully committed its Defensive resources to blanketing the Eagles receivers and in the process had their backs to the LOS. They also were undisciplined in their pass rush and Hurts saw what the Defense was giving him and took advantage of it. There was very little scramble in his scrambles. They were very logical, thoughtful, purposeful, and clean. The videos in the Dan Orlovsky X clip do a good job of illustrating that. (See my response to @Alpha_TATEr below for the video. I couldn’t attach it here)

@mattwill

I forgot to put my score prediction in last week. Please put me down for:

Eagles 33

Rams 26

Bonus: Two blocked field goals

Thanks!

3 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I guess when I say we, I'm including the Philly beat and the only reports we get out of camp. You would have thought Jalyx Hunt was one of the best players at TC. It's dumb to put any kind of weight on what guys like Zangaro say, but he's there saying Nolan Smith looks so good that he can be a 12 sack guy.

I think we all see the potential in both of them. Hunt has incredible burst off the line and he's close to getting home on some sacks. I don't think Smith is fully healthy yet after his triceps tear, but that's only more the reason they should have addressed edge with more than Uche/Ojulari/Ogbo. I'm guessing Ojulari is in the same boat as Ringo. Two guys with high end traits that didn't pan out.

To your point, it's still early. Let's see how it plays out.

Ah that makes sense. I tend to think people here are talking about posters on the EMB with statements like that, I see what you mean. I didn't pay much attention to the camp posts and reports this year so I didn't see the hype (except ESP glazing Hurts). Perhaps there's some hype coming off the SB win that makes some people trust the moves no matter what. But overall most people were concerned about the number of players leaving the defense and Becton on offense. Some were understandable and inevitable, but there got to be a couple too many for comfort.

What I got from the messaging and the actions they took was a youth movement, trusting their guys to grow into their roles and getting ahead of the salary cap issues knowing they have young stars they're going to have to pay - which is amazing considering we spent years criticizing the poor drafting on defense. What a problem now to have so many good players on defense and have to pay them.

I think they're also working with their strengths. DT, finally LB (still getting used to that), and several pieces in the secondary. So the pass rush has a mix of Nolan who is emerging as a really solid player, Hunt developing, and veteran free agents mixed in to the rotation. Za'Darius Smith has been a nice pickup.

I also kinda viewed re-stocking the defense as a 2 year deal. This draft got a potential stud LB and a starting safety, as well as depth elsewhere. The next draft could add a pass rusher high and hopefully a corner.

21 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Way too early on Patullo.

Game 1 - scores on all possessions before lightning

Game 2 - not good but Spags is a great DC and they have a very good D

Game 3 - score then a mess after Lane goes out (which has happened often in past) then good with Fred Johnson

Now we're about to face Tampa who none of our OCs has done well against and then a tough Denver D. That's not an excuse for non performance but we need a reasonable body of work until bye to see where he stands.

Yeah, while discovering AJ and Smitty in the second half was encouraging - fast forwarding to 3rd and Long repeatedly each series against the Bucs isn't going to be the formula for success. They play the run well, and aren't an obvious physical mismatch at corner. I expect Todd Bowles to dial up pressure more effectively (the Rams were doing some weird stuff).

Overall, TB has been slipping by some bad teams - so this game is a litmus test for both sides in different ways.

Anyone else ever wonder why the NFL is not expanding the roster past 53?

An extra regular season game, one less preseason game, extremely less participation in those said preseason games, extremely soft noncontact summer programs and training camps, increasing injury rates, international games, earlier bye weeks which leads to exhausting stretches for some teams. And throw in the fact that no team dresses three quarterbacks and I can count a handful of times were a position player has had to take snaps at quarterback, which leads to an extremely unwatchable product.

45 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

yeah, but some of those broken plays were a result of him missing an open receiver and holding the ball too long.

They were very video evidence doesn’t support that conclusion.

1 minute ago, MrFadedGlory said:

Anyone else ever wonder why the NFL is not expanding the roster past 53?

An extra regular season game, one less preseason game, extremely less participation in those said preseason games, extremely soft noncontact summer programs and training camps, increasing injury rates, international games, earlier bye weeks which leads to exhausting stretches for some teams. And throw in the fact that no team dresses three quarterbacks and I can count a handful of times were a position player has had to take snaps at quarterback, which leads to an extremely unwatchable product.

They actually made the 3rd QB rule again so you can have the 3rd QB available without him counting as an official active. Also they've been much looser on the practice squad allowing vets and 3 call ups. They could always do more but they've done some things to expand game day rosters

2 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

That's why cricketers are forced to wear a grill on their batting helmet. The human face doesn't react well to a leather ball hitting it at 99 mph - not sure why you'd bunt against a pitcher that speed without face protection.

Cuz this is 'Merica! And real men don't wear helmets with face protection.

44 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

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1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Brees doesn't watch the Saints anymore, obviously.

6 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Brees doesn't watch the Saints anymore, obviously.

Does anyone?

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

If he's talking about the first two and a half games of this year, I'll allow it, we were winning but it was efficient rather than the greatest show on turf (though it wasn't as bad as the talking heads would have you believe either), but if he means overall, like if he thought we were boring last year, then he should donate his brain for CTE study, because we were as good to watch as anybody in the league last year.

2 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

If he's talking about the first two and a half games of this year, I'll allow it, we were winning but it was efficient rather than the greatest show on turf (though it wasn't as bad as the talking heads would have you believe either), but if he means overall, like if he thought we were boring last year, then he should donate his brain for CTE study, because we were as good to watch as anybody in the league last year.

I think he's just talking about this season and I don't disagree with him

When offenses aren't working and also not turning the ball over it's boring. When offenses are scoring TDs it's better to watch. If they are dinking and dunking all the way it's not as exciting. It really comes down to that. Most people don't care about the scheme beyond those elements

Guy who "mutually agreed to part ways with NBC" because he is boring as hell on TV calls most successful team in NFL boring.

Gotta love it.

So they didn't dress DEs Okoronkwo and Ojulari for the third straight week. Ty Robinson dressed, but didn't play a snap. Epps is out of elevations. Kenyon Green is hanging out in South Philly.

Any thoughts on the imminent roster moves?

Yeah, I agree with Orlovsky, I don't give a F that it's boring. It works for this team, that's all I care about.

1 hour ago, Mike030270 said:

Is he wrong? The offense is boring as F and has been painful to watch aside from the last quarter and a half of Sunday's game

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah, I agree with Orlovsky, I don't give a F that it's boring. It works for this team, that's all I care about.

If you were watching the game and heard all the crowd eruptions in the second half, 'boring' wouldn't be the adjective that comes to mind.