1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No offense if Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman wanted Frank Reich there to be a consultant to sirianni because they saw the offense was struggling like it was he would be there unless Reich didn’t want to do it. I also doubt Nick would say no to it. He had fangio basically doing that in 2022 (in the playoffs)

Fangio was to scout the offense for them heading into the Super Bowl. Whether Frank didnt want to consult the offense or not has no bearing on any potential interest on an actual OC job.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

No offense if Jeffrey Lurie and Howie Roseman wanted Frank Reich there to be a consultant to sirianni because they saw the offense was struggling like it was he would be there unless Reich didn’t want to do it. I also doubt Nick would say no to it. He had fangio basically doing that in 2022.

I really think Frank is happy to be done. He agreed to the Stanford gig as a short term commitment, but I have to think retirement sounds good to him.

If we do move on from KP, I think McDaniel would be a DISASTER. His personality will not mix well with Nick and Vic -- we already saw that with Vic in Miami. McDaniel isn't a coach that holds guys accountable -- the players did whatever they wanted in Miami. That won't fly in this locker room.

Thursday afternoon Eagles-49ers Game Score Predictions -- 75 hours until Kickoff

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Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Fangio was to scout the offense for them heading into the Super Bowl. Whether Frank didnt want to consult the offense or not has no bearing on any potential interest on an actual OC job.

Fangio was also there in training camp helping. And through the year. Pretty sure BLG dropped that nugget on a podcast a couple months back.

It doesn’t. But it might also play in the fact, Frank Reich already said he wanted to retire after Carolina. He only came out retirement cause luck was caught in a bad spot and needed a trusted interim for a year. So again he might not take the consulting job because he wants to retire. Which means he probably doesn’t want the OC job because he wants to stay retired.

Also, he doesn’t necessarily solve your problem of having an OC in place for a while. They might go on win a Super Bowl in 2026 then he says you know what I’ve done enough in the game. I want to retire and hang out with my family. So you need one again in 2027

29 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He’s been done since the end of November. Imo the Eagles could’ve brought him in to be a senior assistant/advisor. They didn’t ask him or he turned them down. Which begs the question of why since he’s great friends with Nick and the eagles were struggling could use his help (like Luck who he has great admiration for)?

Could be the Eagles aren’t as interested in bringing back Frank Reich as everybody else on this board is.

Could be they did and he just turned them down not wanting to step on PAtullo’s toes and create a less than stellar work environment.

Could Frank Reich took that Stanford job knowing it was going to only be a year. And he did it as a favor to Andrew luck. now is going back to what his plan was where he was going to retire.

Could be burned out from Stanford season and wanted time off to enjoy his family (was supposed to do before luck came calling)

I’d also point out there is the chance that Frank Reich doesn’t stay long in Philadelphia either because he retires and wants to spend more time with his family. Hypothetically the offense could look good in 2026 and they win a Super Bowl. he says you know what I won another Super Bowl. I’m just gonna go retire off into the sunset now and enjoy family time. And then you’re looking for another OC. That is a reality that also exists.

There is that possibility however large or small that Frank does not want to coach Hurts 🤷‍♂️

7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

I really think Frank is happy to be done. He agreed to the Stanford gig as a short term commitment, but I have to think retirement sounds good to him.

If we do move on from KP, I think McDaniel would be a DISASTER. His personality will not mix well with Nick and Vic -- we already saw that with Vic in Miami. McDaniel isn't a coach that holds guys accountable -- the players did whatever they wanted in Miami. That won't fly in this locker room.

Yup. I said this before. He only came out of retirement because luck was caught in a really bad spot when he fired his coach at the end of March (bullying allegations). With how the new NCAA rules/transfer portal are you were gonna have a hard time finding a new head coach to take over basically in April. So instead of doing it at that time he called up Frank Reich and asked him if he’d do it for a year for him. He agreed because it was only one year and he is apparently luck respects him a ton.

I tend to believe Reich wants to retire. It is why i dont think he wants to be an OC again. right after Stanford’s season ends to come be a senior assistant/consultant feels like a lot of work going from west coast to east coast with no time to take off after coaching all season and one job to another when he was already considering retirement. 

Agree on McDaniels. Tbh i think he goes to Washington with Quinn who he’s worked with before.

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

There is that possibility however large or small that Frank does not want to coach Hurts 🤷‍♂️

Feels very low on the totem pole considering he’s coached worse QBs. Add on he didn’t recruit anyone on Stanford and was coaching them.

I think there’s a bigger possibility than not wanting to coach hurts is that his wife wants him to retire.

14 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

As someone who recently had acl reconstruction and meniscus repair, I feel his pain. We act like it is nothing but this 💩 truly sucks.

Just now, Cliftoma said:

As someone who recently had acl reconstruction and meniscus repair, I feel his pain. We act like it is nothing but this 💩 truly sucks.

Sorry you had to go through that. I’ve said the same thing to people with Jurgens and his back. As somebody who’s going through a major back issue over the last 8 months, you don’t realize how bad it is until it limits a lot of what you can do. Furthermore, when it does get better you’re cautious about almost everything you do as you don’t want it to happen again. I’m not so sure Jurgen‘s trust his back. He could be compensating trying to avoid having his back get injured again.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Sorry you had to go through that. I’ve said the same thing to people with Jurgens and his back. As somebody who’s going through a major back issue over the last 8 months, you don’t realize how bad it is until it limits a lot of what you can do. Furthermore, when it does get better you’re cautious about almost everything you do as you don’t want it to happen again. I’m not so sure Jurgen‘s trust his back. He could be compensating trying to avoid having his back get injured again.

I have family that's had back surgery but they seem to keep getting more because of lingering problems. Which is why I don't think it was wise to extend him. Good chance he'll always miss time because of it throughout his career

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Fangio was also there in training camp helping. And through the year. Pretty sure BLG dropped that nugget on a podcast a couple months back.

It doesn’t. But it might also play in the fact, Frank Reich already said he wanted to retire after Carolina. He only came out retirement cause luck was caught in a bad spot and needed a trusted interim for a year. So again he might not take the consulting job because he wants to retire. Which means he probably doesn’t want the OC job because he wants to stay retired.

Also, he doesn’t necessarily solve your problem of having an OC in place for a while. They might go on win a Super Bowl in 2026 then he says you know what I’ve done enough in the game. I want to retire and hang out with my family. So you need one again in 2027

For aomeone who doesn't know Frank Reich personally you sure do seem to take yourself as an expert on all of his thoughts in his head

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I have family that's had back surgery but they seem to keep getting more because of lingering problems. Which is why I don't think it was wise to extend him. Good chance he'll always miss time because of it throughout his career

At this point, they can’t undo the extension. Frankly, they probably should’ve waited considering how he’s played this year but that’s hindsight at this point. The fact of the matter is they drafted Kendall and then also picked up Lampkin (also guessing cause stoutland loved him). I tend to believe those guys are being developed as potential insurance with Jurgens. However @vikas83 knows more tha I but based off looking at his contract it’s really not feasible to release him til after 2027.

Need to know what he’s dealing with now. But also if he’s healthy going into the off-season where he doesn’t need any surgeries. I’d like to see what he looks like after an entire off-season of training like he normally does. Said this before, when you don’t get to train like you normally do because you’re rehabbing for 6 months then asked to play at the level you have in the past it’s probably unlikely.

PFF scores from Redskins game.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

For aomeone who doesn't know Frank Reich personally you sure do seem to take yourself as an expert on all of his thoughts in his head

Cool so we just ignore the fact Reich alluded to retirement after Carolina (alluding to that was a big possibility) and the articles with luck and Reich quotes that have come out about why he took the job at Stanford/offered the job… for somebody who likes to talk a lot maybe you should do some research

Again, so you’re telling me there’s no possibility that exists a guy who’s turning 65 this year, already discussed retirement a year ago, takes the offensive coordinator job for a year and after the year considers retiring? I don’t really need to know Frank reich to know that a 65-year-old man that’s already been considering retirement might retire sooner rather than later.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We have an elite and a very good OC hitting the market in McDaniel and Monken. We have to come away with one of them.

McDaniel

Monken

Kingsbury

Daboll

Id be happy with any of them, but pretty much in that order.

There are enough options that I am hopeful we can land one.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We have an elite and a very good OC hitting the market in McDaniel and Monken. We have to come away with one of them.

We won't. They'll be long gone before anyone in charge here even puts on their pants.

2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

I'd like some continuity for Hurts and the offense finally

thats what Patullo was supposed to be. Id like to get away from continuity now.

32 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I have family that's had back surgery but they seem to keep getting more because of lingering problems. Which is why I don't think it was wise to extend him. Good chance he'll always miss time because of it throughout his career

I brought this up last year and was raked over the coals for it. A - I thought Jurgens was a bit overrated last year because of the overall success of the OL and B - Back surgery/injuries can linger, and can be particularly difficult for guys in the trenches.

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I am with @ManuManu on this. You hire the best guy for the job. I can’t worry about whether or not he’s gonna get a head coaching job or head coaching interviews the year after 2026. I need to hire the guy that is gonna take where the offenses now and get it to be a Super Bowl caliber offense next year. I don’t know how much more time I have with this group. NFL windows open and close faster then people thing. We should have a bigger window but you never really know. Next year the Eagles have a bunch of different injuries and they go 6-11 miss the playoffs and Howie/Lurie feel they need a change at HC. Do I think that’s likely? No but I don’t think it’s completely out of the realm of possibilities.

I think people are honestly panicking too much about the 'length of this window'. The real truth is that if you want to extend a window, you want stability. The more times you roll the dice trying to get an OC, the more times you're likely to F it up. This fanbase implodes when you F it up. Therefore, stability is the best approach.

You (informal you, so people) cannot both implode when something is Fed up, but not see any value in having it be more stable, that doesn't make any sense. And if anything, I hope there's stability because talking about Eagles anything is absolutely insufferable at this point when they're not.

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We have an elite and a very good OC hitting the market in McDaniel and Monken. We have to come away with one of them.

I'd be willing to take Monken. I don't want McDaniel. McDaniel isn't going to be here anywhere near long enough, and then it'll just be another round of the fanbase crying about how we got another coach poached and ****ing about Sirianni every hour. Monken is 60, and has worked with mobile guys so I figure he's less demanding on timing, which is unfortunately necessary for Hurts. Sounds like a good long term candidate.

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

So, my main takeaway here is that this whole defense hinges on Q basically taking away the boundary receiver himself. And it makes sense -- the one game where the D gave up over 30 was week 6 in NY when Q got hurt (sadly, I was at that game). Q's ability to erase the boundary receiver let's Vic flood the other side and protect Adoree.

Great clip

2 hours ago, ManuManu said:

We have an elite and a very good OC hitting the market in McDaniel and Monken. We have to come away with one of them.

It sounds negative, but then your hope is that they lose this weekend and the offense looks horrible again if you’re thinking of the greater good down the road. Because the deeper they go in the playoffs, the more the likelihood of them missing out on almost all of these guys increases.

Unless if Lurie and Roseman are reaching out to guys now ensuring that they will get the job whenever the Eagles’ season ends.

So either lose this weekend or win and go onto win the whole damn thing again and worry about OC after the second straight parade.

31 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Cool so we just ignore the fact Reich alluded to retirement after Carolina (alluding to that was a big possibility) and the articles with luck and Reich quotes that have come out about why he took the job at Stanford/offered the job… for somebody who likes to talk a lot maybe you should do some research

Again, so you’re telling me there’s no possibility that exists a guy who’s turning 65 this year, already discussed retirement a year ago, takes the offensive coordinator job for a year and after the year considers retiring? I don’t really need to know Frank reich to know that a 65-year-old man that’s already been considering retirement might retire sooner rather than later.

A guy in his 60s with limited to no options will take the high road of pride to say he will be retiring.

A nice pay day of a NFL OC job with a stable organization and HC that he is comfortable with and already has a relationship with can quickly shut down that retirement talk.

7 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

I think people are honestly panicking too much about the 'length of this window'. The real truth is that if you want to extend a window, you want stability. The more times you roll the dice trying to get an OC, the more times you're likely to F it up. This fanbase implodes when you F it up. Therefore, stability is the best approach.

You (informal you, so people) cannot both implode when something is Fed up, but not see any value in having it be more stable, that doesn't make any sense. And if anything, I hope there's stability because talking about Eagles anything is absolutely insufferable at this point when they're not.

Here’s your problem with your solution. Because you wanna hire the guy that’s gonna stay as the coordinator to have stability and doesn’t wanna look for another coach job doesn’t mean he does stay. we talked about monke this earlier in the season. You told me can do what ravens did with him. He is currently interviewing for a head coaching job at 59 years old.

Again in theory, it sounds awesome to get the guy that wants to be a lifetime OC and we have stability. However, that candidate very well might not exist and it’s not the norm. Furthermore might not be the best candidate to get the eagles where they want to go. I will bet if you want to take this bet if they hired somebody like that and the offense went from where it is now to top 5 offense next year that that guy is going to be interview for head coaching jobs. Again we discussed monken earlier this year and he’s interviewing for a HC job.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

A guy in his 60s with limited to no options will take the high road of pride to say he will be retiring.

A nice pay day of a NFL OC job with a stable organization and HC that he is comfortable with and already has a relationship with can quickly shut down that retirement talk.

My response to you on this is your own words

For someone who doesn't know Frank Reich personally you sure do seem to take yourself as an expert on all of his thoughts in his head