6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Who is one dozen rats at a keyboard? 😄

He used up all of his seniority and karma and good grace from the Super Bowl win on Patullo.

it would be different if he bailed in week 8 or 10 but he went all in.

5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

That's not even the real issue, it was after Super Bowl so your candidate choices were limited. No one expects to hire a truly bottom of the barrel candidate, but they probably didn't expect their choices to be any better.

In reality the mistake that should be learned after this is much more fundamental: For some reason (It's Hurts), you have a target on your back when it comes to hiring head coaches. That means you need to do what Miami does. Miami carried two OC worthy candidates into the season behind their OC. You need to actually keep a quality successor handy, if you want to sustain Super Bowl level success.

They thought lightning wouldn't strike twice, but we're the Eagles, we're the one fanbase where it absolutely can strike twice.

31 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

There's no A game when you have a bunch of amateurs coaching against professionals. They never put him in a position to succeed.

He outplayed Purdy tonight but the result is massively different because the Niners have professional coaches and we have asshats who belong in high school.

Hurts is not an all timer but he has clearly demonstrated that he's capable of playing at a very high level when put in position. Same as AJ and Saquon.

I would say Hurts was average today. Not bad, not great.

But agree the issue all year was an offense with a bad scheme that was poorly called

Just now, DaBirds said:

I don’t remember a season where I saw less guys open. Like ever.

The 49ers ran an offense in a cave! with scraps! and they got guys open all night.

2 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

Steen gets no real movement in the run game though. He should go back to the bench but I have a feeling the team thinks, "we're fine there"...

Nobody got any real movement in the run game.

Barkley got over 1000 yards this year through sheer willpower

He had 100 yards today and it was the most unforgettable 100 yards Incan remember, hed break off a 20 yard run followed by two runs in a row where he got blasted in the backfield.

Out of the 5 OLineman on this team that were a problem this year and gling forward id put steen dead last.

Jurgens is top of that list, he was the worst rated starting OL in the league, not just center the worst starting OL.

Dickerson is next, hes getting more and more hurt every year and declining year after year.

Lane simply because hes old and always hurt, he was the eagles best OL this year when healthy but he was rarely healthy.

Mailata is fine, he needs to have a bounce back year and I think he can.

Steen is fine cant have all pros at every position but it would be nice if he were a better run blocker on a team that wants to run.

Having said that Hurts could have made up for some of those deficiencies by running but for whatever reason he didnt, couldnt or wouldnt run this year ☹️

10 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

That’s the best you got? I feel bad for how much you clearly got picked on growing up.

You were that kid all the teachers had to tell the other kids to stop bullying, they would, and then you’d just go back on your stupid $hit, bring it on yourself, and play victim

I'm the kid that Fed the hot teachers. You're the kid who wished he did. Goober.

Need to bring back 3rd down machine Nelson Agholor

Just now, SkippyX said:

The 49ers ran an offense in a cave! with scraps! and they got guys open all night.

They have a qb who can throw from the pocket, fogtag

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I’m not putting the all of the offensive woes on Patullo. Every single player (besides Smith) seemed to have lost half a step

How inept Patullo is seems unarguable to me

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

That's not even the real issue, it was after Super Bowl so your candidate choices were limited. No one expects to hire a truly bottom of the barrel candidate, but they probably didn't expect their choices to be any better.

In reality the mistake that should be learned after this is much more fundamental: For some reason (It's Hurts), you have a target on your back when it comes to hiring head coaches. That means you need to do what Miami does. Miami carried two OC worthy candidates into the season behind their OC. You need to actually keep a quality successor handy, if you want to sustain Super Bowl level success.

They thought lightning wouldn't strike twice, but we're the Eagles, we're the one fanbase where it absolutely can strike twice.

They shouldn't have hired from within

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

I'm the kid that Fed the hot teachers. You're the kid who wished he did. Goober.

So you’re a r@pe victim… awesome. I’ll stop picking on you

8 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

This has to be the best play in your playbook and they called their third timeout for this, which essentially meant the Niners could run out the clock.

Yup. And Hurts threw it into triple coverage because he was staring down Goedert the entire time. Meanwhile, the in to the left was much more open, because of how much he manipulated the LB right to where he was looking to throw the ball. Or throw it to either of the 1 on 1's and hope that your receiver can win, but don't throw it into triple coverage.

2 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

That's not even the real issue, it was after Super Bowl so your candidate choices were limited. No one expects to hire a truly bottom of the barrel candidate, but they probably didn't expect their choices to be any better.

In reality the mistake that should be learned after this is much more fundamental: For some reason (It's Hurts), you have a target on your back when it comes to hiring head coaches. That means you need to do what Miami does. Miami carried two OC worthy candidates into the season behind their OC. You need to actually keep a quality successor handy, if you want to sustain Super Bowl level success.

They thought lightning wouldn't strike twice, but we're the Eagles, we're the one fanbase where it absolutely can strike twice.

They were limited because Nick wanted his friend which was reported weeks before it happened

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

I'm the kid that Fed the hot teachers. You're the kid who wished he did. Goober.

I bet you sucked their deeks too

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yeah... Howie is truly a wizard when it comes to those things, so I can't say it can't happen. But it seems unlikely. Then again, I also said the same thing about Demarco Murray and Byron Maxwell, and he got them traded off too.

Either way changes need to be made for next year. Maybe a new oc will be enough. But I doubt it

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Hurts hit AJ Brown in the hands and it would have been like a 50 yarder. If it makes you guys feel better to make Hurts out to be some bum, so be it.

But he looks like a lot of "good" QBs when they have ish coaching.

I agree - I don’t think he was bad today at all by his standards, and his stars should have made more plays for him. But he didn’t outplay Purdy. And to say that Purdy "padded his stats” for YAC is absurd.

13 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

1st down. Absolutely! I think I actually added an Aaarrrggh! after saying he was late to run.

2nd down: I'd have to look at it again but that is what Brady said.

3rd: not a perfect throw but catchable.

4th: Patullo called Madden 1995 4 go patterns. No one was open vs nickle or dime. (McCourty said so on a replay on NBC)

Everyone legit is laughing at Patullo tonight. No one is complaining about Hurts.

Don't get me wrong - Patullo definitely deserves to go.

But we also have to acknowledge this was one of Hurts worst years as QB since he has taken over. His desire to minimise his running has a fair bit to do with it, along with OL/lack of top-5 running game he has had most of his career and bad playcalling

Just now, Freshmilk said:

I like Hurts, but his team had the ball at the 40+ yard line 3x in the 2nd half, 2x by turnovers and they scored six points. He didn't play well tonight when we really needed him to do so. His legs couldn't help him, made some good throws combined with bad decisions. The first long ball to Brown was short and into coverage. Second long ball was a good throw and should have been PI. If Brown not held up there it's a great play. It's not that Hurts is abum,, he just didn't play well.

I'm not saying he played well at all. I had absolutely no hope on that last drive.

I'm just saying it's annoying when you look across the field and see a bunch of JAGs looking like a functional offense, and that happens regularly in today's NFL.

Meanwhile we have to break down Hurts' game every single week when the scheme sucks, the playcalling sucks, and the personnel packages suck.

I'd love to have some generational QB as much as anyone, but the reality is Hurts is good enough and many other factors are affecting his play negatively. We can easily change those factors by canning Siri and Patullo

Just now, Mike030270 said:

They shouldn't have hired from within

"Yes", but the reason isn't because hiring from within is bad, it's because they didn't have the quality candidates on the roster to hire from within from. If you lose an OC after a Super Bowl you have a tremendous disadvantage, but you can mitigate that by stashing a candidate that you already know you want.

I wonder if bacarty is fighting anyone with his son after the game. I miss him

10 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

This is why I said you have to look at moving Dickerson or Jurgens, if not both. It's not popular, it might be a hiccup, but you have to get out of those contracts. You need to be cheap on the OL. Lane has to retire. Getting out of AJ Brown's contract is a must. There's going to be a big sting there, but this isn't sustainable. The relationship is fractured. It's not going to mend, it's going to get worse.

Do they extend Barkley again and just kick the can even further?

The offense is not in a good place. There's ZERO depth behind the high priced pieces. The only depth they have, Tank Bigsby, they don't use.

I'm not saying blow it up, but boy, some serious looking in the mirror has to be done first, then a lot of tough decisions and work for Howie to do.

Dickerson and Jurgens contracts are really not movable. Also believe Lane’s contract hurts you a lot cap wise if he retires.

I’d be more on your side with replacing those guys if this wasn’t the first time out of the last five years that the offensive line has had issues. Realistically this offensive line has been good for the last five years. So I tend to think they believe Jurgens not coming off back surgery able to train instead of rehab all off-season. It’s going to likely be better. I kind of think not going into February that some of these guys are gonna have more time to heal up and be better.