1 minute ago, schuy7 said:

Daboll is my guess for next OC.

I like that.

I dont think he will be too quick to get another HC job.

The Giants offense was beginning to look pretty tough with a rookie QB, 1 star WR, and a good slot WR who actually got targets. And a rookie RB who isnt really athletic enough for the NFL but looked amazing.

He made a lot out of a little there. He can probably do great things with our roster.

Id also love to have a hot head who isnt afraid to call out Hurts for his terrible decisions.

2 minutes ago, Godfather said:

OC will be replaced not the HC

He has a relationship with Hurts already, which Lurie/Howie will value.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Give me AJ with a QB who can throw the ball on a consistent basis. I love the intangibles Jalen Hurts brings to the game. He's a terrific person from everything you read about him. He's just not a very good passing QB. He's a game manager. A game manager is great if you have pedestrian WR, maybe guys like DeMarcus Robinson?

This offense has a top 5 and top 10 WR, a top 5 TE and the best RB in the NFL.

QB1 threw for 200 or less in 11 games.

QB1 threw for 150 yards or less in 6 games.

QB1 threw for 1 TD or less in 9 games.

We'll probably never know if the offense is held back because of the OC or because of the QB. It's probably a little of both. Part of me just wants to see what this offense can do with a true passing QB.

Whats phillip rivers up to.

I agree though. Hurts intangibles are off the charts and when he was a running threat his inefficiencies as a passer were minimized but if hes made up his mind hes not running anymore then his other intangibles arent enough to make up for his limitations as a passer.

Its tough because hes been to 2 super bowls won 1 and was the best player on the field in both but that hurts also ran the ball.

I just dont know, it would be nice to see how the offense worked with a real passing qb, but real passing qbs these days are a rare breed.

6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Give me AJ with a QB who can throw the ball on a consistent basis.

So he can drop them and then post weird quotes after the game.

2 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Like I said, I'd be okay with it if only to close the book on this era of Eagles football and let the fans finally get over their trauma from 2023 so they can stop being so psychotic. The expectations have become so high that almost no one can really fill them, so I'd like to see that reset. as soon as possible.

I dont think a re-set exists. Fans are used to being able to fire HCs every 3 years and still go back to the super bowl. Yet super bowl wins are no longer enough to buy a longer leash for these people. Its really crazy...

10 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

I think it's just human nature for the refs to favor the underdog, you have to expect it a little bit. They did give Hurts a late hit that was super soft.

I'm just embarrassed that this collection of players couldn't get out of the Wildcard round. IMO it's obviously a spectacular coaching failure.

That was literally the only call they made. Maybe if they just called the obvious ones on the 49ers....

But the coaching was bad on the offensive side, no doubt.

You keep Sirianni but Patullo needs to be gone by noon followed by a news of an interview scheduled with McDaniels by 6 pm tomorrow.

1 minute ago, DaBirds said:

So he can drop them and then post weird quotes after the game.

I know, bad game to defend AJ and pick him over the QB.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Nice. Which batch? Stagg is something else

I opened my WLW when we won the SB last year. No pour this season sadly

17. One of my go to. I'm glad it's over tbh

3 minutes ago, schuy7 said:

He has a relationship with Hurts already, which Lurie/Howie will value.

HC or OC?

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

You keep Sirianni but Patullo needs to be gone by noon followed by a news of an interview scheduled with McDaniels by 6 pm tomorrow.

There are a bunch of names that would make me happy at OC. Im not sure I even have a preference.

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

I dont think a re-set exists. Fans are used to being able to fire HCs every 3 years and still go back to the super bowl. Yet super bowl wins are no longer enough to buy a longer leash for these people. Its really crazy...

If that proves objectively true, it's time to retire from Eagles discussion for me unfortunately. I usually come off pretty annoyed but it's because the last year and a half, while very fun from a football standpoint, has been absolutely 0 fun in terms of discussion. It has never been worse during my time here. It was better during 2020 and 2012, when we only won 4 games.

1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

This isn't a normal loss.

This is the 2nd time in 3 years he picked an inept OC

He let it continue all year

He brings nothing to the table

He acts like a clown

Vic and KM and Howie win him a SB

He had the most talented team in the league that was mostly healthy and he along with KP blew a year of the window when it doesn't get more wide open. Coaches shouldn't hurt the team the way he did.

People who say a new coach can't win Gruden took over a talented team when a coach couldn't make the most of talent.

He needs to go amd I hope he sticks to KP so they can throw him out the door.

I think Howie / Lurie will only hold the KP hire against him. KP is clearly a Siri hire and the worst OC he has had in his HC career so its a big miss. He was the first guy that came with him from Indy. Btw, Steichen was also a Siri hire given their working history before. He is 1 - 1 on OC's where I think he has been the primary person driving the process.

We all agree that Kellen Moore certainly had more organisational involvement. I also think Brian Johnson was a broader organisational appointment and of course Siri had a part in that - they had just lost Steichen and the Eagles moved to secure their QB coach coming off a prolific year from their young franchise QB. He was seen as being important to Hurts and was also originally brought in more by Howie given the relationship he already had with Hurts. Just because it was internal, doesnt mean it was just a Siri call while any external hire is Howie / Lurie.

who knows if Chris Johnson Jr is draft eligible this year?

If you get McDaniels as the HC, you probably want an Achane type RB because the dolphins never really have a run game, but they do get explosive plays out of it when they do run.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

You keep Sirianni but Patullo needs to be gone by noon

Smartest thing you've ever said

Just now, Godfather said:

HC or OC?

OC I think, because frankly hiring Daboll as HC would probably be a bad idea. I admit, I do hope that goes over okay with Barkley though?

54 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

This has to be the best play in your playbook and they called their third timeout for this, which essentially meant the Niners could run out the clock.

Its the best tecmo bowl pass play among the 4 in that situation.

I mean at least it wasnt 4 curls...😒

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

There are a bunch of names that would make me happy at OC. Im not sure I even have a preference.

Stefanski

13 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

Maybe run a rub route there? Actually, I don't think Patullo understands what a rub route is a d why it can work.

A rub route into a zone? Ummm no! The defense is stationary, reading QB eyes and guarding area, not players. Rub routes bring two players to a defender...that's dumb. They are useful against M-M, not zones. But even more stupid is 4 WRs running vertical routes to a defender and then turning around...effectively covering themselves up. That idiot OC has spent an entire season running this same stupidity multiple times a game....

1 hour ago, eaglestime34 said:

Yet how many penalties were called when the Eagles got big plays on offense? How many penalties to extend 49er drives? Yeah the bias against the Eagles from the NFL is blatantly obvious it has been all year.

Yup. Happened twice in this game. Two first downs calked back due to penalty. Instead of a first down it was 1st and 20. Drive killer.

AJ Brown is the best WR in Eagles history and had a down year coming off a Super bowl where he gutted out a playoff run needing to have his knee drained in between games and people turn on the guy like that. Have some Fing perspective FFS.

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

OC I think, because frankly hiring Daboll as HC would probably be a bad idea. I admit, I do hope that goes over okay with Barkley though?

Did he and Barkley not get along?

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

who knows if Chris Johnson Jr is draft eligible this year?

If you get McDaniels as the HC, you probably want an Achane type RB because the dolphins never really have a run game, but they do get explosive plays out of it when they do run.

Wait, I haven't watched the Dolphins, is that accurate?

So you're saying that McDaniels has to re-invent Hurts, or we're Fed? Like utterly Fed?

Just now, AmericanEagle77 said:

OC I think, because frankly hiring Daboll as HC would probably be a bad idea. I admit, I do hope that goes over okay with Barkley though?

OC is gone

1 minute ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

If that proves objectively true, it's time to retire from Eagles discussion for me unfortunately. I usually come off pretty annoyed but it's because the last year and a half, while very fun from a football standpoint, has been absolutely 0 fun in terms of discussion. It has never been worse during my time here. It was better during 2020 and 2012, when we only won 4 games.

I would prefer everyone stays. But if you do go, dont make it a permanent retirement. Take a hiatus until Hurts is gone. He is the polarizing figure responsible for almost all disagreement. Him directly, as well as how much he muddies the picture of how much coaching is to blame. When they get a new QB, things will clarify and become much less polarized.