3 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

To be fair, a lot of people are more used to dealing with a drop back passer, especially if they started their coaching careers before college became all about mobile guys.

Insert Mad Men gif: That’s what the money is for!

4 minutes ago, AmericanEagle77 said:

Two guys from the division is certainly a list. I like those second two being fired head coaches with not a ton of success there.

McDaniel...unless the plan is to develop Hurts into a better passing QB, that one kinda worries me. But it really depends, I haven't studied Miami but I feel like a good running game is required unless you develop Hurts quite a bit.

Mcdaniels used Achane alot. I dont think he is run averse. I think he over weighted speed and under values size in miami

7 minutes ago, shlo said:

They will keep Sirianni, but doing so will just continue this treadmill of ... good OC = good season. Bad OC = bad season. Sirianni is incapable of righting the ship if his OC isn't delivering the goods. He really adds nothing. But he's had a lot of "success" because he's been surrounded by people (Howie, Steichen, Moore, Fangio, and lots of talented players) who elevate the team despite his mediocrity. If you look at the results, he should stay. If you look at the process, he should be gone.

Let it officially becomes a spot that attracts the best candidates. Get a chance at a ring and launch at a HC job after a year. Just no more bad internal hires.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

With the 23rd pick, the Eagles move up, move down or select what position?

They will move up for help along one of the lines.

Id prefer it be a top tier Edge because if there can be one complaint about the D tonight its that we didnt pressure Purdy nearly enough. Almost not at all really. Edge was not effective enough all year long. Smith was a huge disappointment, and we lacked depth.

OL will be ok. If we can get Becton back here, and draft one within the first 3 rounds. We arent doomed at RT if Lane retires. Our fill in was starting caliber even if he isnt going to the HOF. Our rookie center is going to be ok. Steen will be a fine backup for Dickerson and Becton.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

So let's do a basic algorithm:

Step 1 (highly likely): Eagles fire KP and hire Brian Daboll/Mike Mcdaniels/Stefanski/etc

• Outcome 1: Offense is great. Inevitable next step is that OC is on HC interview circuit. Do you fire Siri and promote the OC? From afar, it's such a bold controversial thing to do without great precedent...but it's also insanity to continue the unstable OC churn.

• Outcome 2: Offense is better but still not good. Does everyone just get another year to run it back with the same personnel?

• Outcome 3: Offense is the same. At what point does more than a vocal and criticized minority of Eagles fans start looking at the common denominator and acknowledge the QB problem?

Step 2/Door 2: Eagles fire KP, strike out on the big name former HC's, and get a less proven OC. Are you going to blame Siri for making a bad choice? Howie/Lurie? Could it be that OC's with HC aspirations do not want to tie their future to the QB here? Do they not want to work with an offensive minded HC who is a bit of an emotional goofball?

Wouldn’t outcome 3 be the two common denominators as hurts and sirianni. You’d need one gone before making the conclusion it’s one or the other as both are common denominators.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don’t feel that way at all. Alshon couldn’t move after 2017. In 2018 he started moving like a tight end. I think this was just a crap year on offense for everyone and AJ brown was a part of that, but I didn’t see anything that made me think he can’t produce again at a high level next season if they get a real OC in here. Look at what Diggs did this season after everyone thought he was washed. And again, Adams. Need to rejuvenate a lot of guys on this offense. Honestly, I have more concerns about Barkley producing at a high level next season than AJ. RBs typically are not the same again after that workload he had in 2024 and naturally he dropped off. And he’ll be like 28 which is old for a RB with his workload.

Fading WRs can be schemed open. But you are putting a lot of eggs in to basket that says Hurts can effectively QB a fancy schmancy scheme that a good OC brings. Thats just not going to happen. AJ will not have another big year as an eagle if he is here.

Can we stop crying about missed calls and penalties? Don’t put yourself into those situations that matter. Don’t become the 40whiners.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can we stop crying about missed calls and penalties? Don’t put yourself into those situations that matter. Don’t become the 40whiners.

yep. Lots of really bad ref games against us this year. Never felt like it should have mattered. This team put itself in the position where those calls mattered when we were so talented we should have had enough of a margin for error that they wouldnt.

Yes we do win todays game, as bad as we played, with an honest crew of officials. But its not bothering me one bit that we didnt.

I appreciate the opportunity to get an OC now. And hopefully next year, we will play well enough to shove it up the refs arse while we pummel the other team as well.

2 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

That's the most unconfident HC/OC making a season deciding play I've ever seen. Sirianni should be fired just for this! His expression is that of "I dunno, I guess". Have some fu#%$(! balls and say, KP that's a terrible play, we're doing this. We all saw what happened next. A perfect example of the entire passing game on one play.

I'm thinking Dickerson probably hasn't taken the best care of his body

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Fading WRs can be schemed open. But you are putting a lot of eggs in to basket that says Hurts can effectively QB a fancy schmancy scheme that a good OC brings. Thats just not going to happen. AJ will not have another big year as an eagle if he is here.

Does a fancy schmancy scheme have to be complicated? Shanahan runs an incredibly simple offense that gets the most out of his QBs.

7 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

We also need to not treat Hurts like a true dropback passer. He might stink on zone reads but he needs to be used as a running QB in other ways. Nothing about this scheme made any sense.

Hurts is dropping to slide instantly on plays. He used to be second only to Josh Allen at running through contact and gaining extra yards amongst QBs.

The QB position has changed in recent years and I can't fathom I'm ranking QB's based on how well they run through contact with physicality. But that was part of his game. Hurts is a low volume passer who is not a crisp passer. When he's tacking on rushing TDs, picking up first downs and chunks of yards with his legs, forcing teams to cheat up and spy him while defending the pass...he's dynamic and can be effective.

If he's not a threat to run, all we're left with is a below average passer. And a below average passer who only passes is, by definition, a below average QB.

Just like AJ Brown magically becoming a #1 WR again at 29...there isn't exactly a precedent of QB's at 28 suddenly deciding to become more high volume physical runners. The natural progression is to emphasize running less. But he's just NOT having a compensatory evolution as a passer.

It does not age well.

Let me just say that I dont care if they were to fire Sirianni after this loss. I dont get attached to players or coaches like some of you do.

However it would be an incredibly bad look for the Eagles if they did fire a HC after 5 straight years of playoffs, back to back division titles, 2 SB appearances and a SB title. You dont normally fire a coach when all they do is win. It sucks we cant win the Superbowl every year but such is life. For those that say he only wins because he has a talented roster..........well doesnt just about any coach that wins alot of games and wins a SB have a talented roster?

If this franchise were trending downwards and struggling whie losing games consistently then you have a case for firing the HC.

Bottom line is there will be changes. To coaches and the roster. They've done it before and its worked.

I trust Howie and Lurie know what they're doing. If they feel Sirianni isnt the guy anymore and a change is needed, they will make it. They know first hand what he does as a HC. If they feel he doesnt do anything or offer anything, they'll move on.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

He actually went on to say if you count how many times we put 2 halves of football together it might not be more than 5. LOL. He doesnt even realize how bad it was. It was way less than that. It was ZERO

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah, it was an awful game for AJ Brown. However, when he had that drop then went to the sideline and they had that blowup between him and Nick that can’t happen. AJ Brown cannot do it because you know all the cameras are good to get it. That is not the time nor of the place. It’s a in the locker room discussion. It was idiotic of him especially knowing everything that has gone on this year

Then also Nick Sirianni has to be smarter, knowing how his players are. Particularly AJ. You are the head coach of the team. You know your players. AJ Brown after dropping it is gonna be frustrated and angry. So you saying something to him that pissed him off enough to cause that blowup is also not needed and also idiotic.

He said "Get off the field." If the HC can't say that to a player then the issue isnt with the coach, it's 100% on the player.

15 minutes ago, shlo said:

They will keep Sirianni, but doing so will just continue this treadmill of ... good OC = good season. Bad OC = bad season. Sirianni is incapable of righting the ship if his OC isn't delivering the goods. He really adds nothing. But he's had a lot of "success" because he's been surrounded by people (Howie, Steichen, Moore, Fangio, and lots of talented players) who elevate the team despite his mediocrity. If you look at the results, he should stay. If you look at the process, he should be gone.

Kinda why i might prefer Monken

If Mcdaniel comesnin and we do well he will be one and done for a HC position. I still

Think he will get an HC role this cycle

5 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Fading WRs can be schemed open. But you are putting a lot of eggs in to basket that says Hurts can effectively QB a fancy schmancy scheme that a good OC brings. Thats just not going to happen. AJ will not have another big year as an eagle if he is here.

I’ll take that bet 10 times outta 10

4 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Dudes washed, its sad that his body has continued to let him down because hes a great talent, he shouldnt have even been playing this year, if he insisted because hes a " warrior" coaches should of had the sense to shut him down, if coaches insisted becaus

He needs to go the Joe Thomas/Fletcher Cox/Jeff Saturday direction and shed 125 pounds or more as soon as he retires.

1 minute ago, ManuManu said:

Does a fancy schmancy scheme have to be complicated? Shanahan runs an incredibly simple offense that gets the most out of his QBs.

is it simple? Or is Purdy, despite his lack of an arm just smart enough to process it all well? Its a lot of quick throws that requires processing speed Hurts will never have.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Can we stop crying about missed calls and penalties? Don’t put yourself into those situations that matter. Don’t become the 40whiners.

Only one that bothered me was the Williams hold on Nolan Smith that they missed but I thought the roughness call on Hurts was soft so it balanced out. The offense was never going to do enough to win that game.