PHI was top of the league in red zone scoring percentage this year...I realize the 21 is not the red zone, but they started 1st & 10 at the 20 before a 1 yard sack...then 3 straight incompletions. I was shocked, I just knew they would score the TD.

As far as the OC vs Hurts discussion. Other than dealing with player contracts and roster needs I wouldn't try to change too much other than a new OC. PHI has the horses, Kingsbury might be the guy, he's done it in college, teaching the QB position and growing from there. If you can teach your scheme to an 18 year old you can teach it to Hurts(not a knock on Hurts). That should allow for a more traditional, open, not so risk averse, simplistic offensive scheme/approach that should take more advantage of the skill sets already on the roster. If it is really a Hurts inability to process route progression/reads, get the OC in as early as possible and spend as much time as allowed under the NFLPA CBA with the new OC and Hurts, the guy can learn/improve if enough time and effort is put into it. You cannot let his "comfort level" dictate how productive the offense can be. He has to evolve in the offense and make others around him great, or at a minimum allow them to be as good as their skill sets ceiling might be, that definitely didn't happen this year.

Siri has to be better as a HC developing the locker room chemistry year to year. Winning the SB was awesome LAST YEAR. Team chemistry changes each season, especially in moderm football where rosters see more churn than most football fans want to see. With the roster changes and OC change this year it never seemed like the chemistry was re-established or meshed. The HC has to bring the team together as one unit, a veteran team can lean on players but at the end of the day the HC has to own the pulse of the team. I think this was the biggest factor of the way things turned out yesterday.

PHI still owns the division and should be favored next year to win it...the WC exit is disappointing yes, but they should have a plan ASAP to use that disappointment as motivation, the window is smaller but PHI is also still in a lot better position than many, many organizations in the NFL to overcome this coming league year. It doesn't take a top ten offense with what the defense will have next year, a mid-level offense and PHI is right back in the thick of a SB hunt next year.

26 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

I don't mind if Calc comes back under a new competent OC. A coach who isn't a moron would know how to use, and more importantly how NOT to use him. The only reason we wanted him to miss time is because DUMB and DUMBER consistently misuse him.

Nah, there's no reason to bring him back. He hasn't once made a play that made me think he's worth sticking with. He was never a mismatch. He never made a play that was because he has unique traits. He's the Jaggiest of JAGs. Not to mention the complete liability he is in the run game. Don't let the door hit ya (especially in the head cuz your next concussion is your last).

Just now, Saltpeter said:

This is 100% coming from the Sirianni camp. Dude can’t live without his best buddy, knows he won’t get hired anywhere else decent, and is clinging to any workaround he can. This is Press Taylor, cut and dry GTFO territory

I don't think it came from anywhere, it wasn't a report, it was him just riffing on his podcast and speaking about the situation and what he sees happening. But he said Patullo is 100% gone as OC and they actually were going to consider firing him even if they won a SB.

3 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Agree with this, it would likely signal a one-year reset. That might be the best approach now, but I agree it's doubtful the front office does this.

I personally just don't see the value in paying Brown another $30m for one more season like this.

If eagles felt that way then i could understand and do it. I’d have no issue with it if they felt this core couldn’t get back to a SB. Like you said doubtful. Imo They kind of made the line of demarcation 2027 with brown. I think they realized that offense was going to be overhauled completely in 2027 and rebuilt over 2027 and 2028. Use the defense to keep them competitive until the offense got back to where they want it

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane said he wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles keep Patullo but remove him as OC and move him back to pass game coordinator and the spin is Sirianni falling on the sword and saying he put Patullo in a tough situation and that's on him.

No way, cannot see that happening. Can't see the new OC wanting to agree to that - Sirianni was given an opportunity to choose his OC and it failed miserably, this will be back in the hands of Howie.

28 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I am grateful for the Philadelphia faithful.

No BS - although you need to keep up with the BS they throw at us.

Hurts - although not perfect - comes in every day - does his job - and everyone wants to crucify him.

It's like US - the ones born and raised in Philadelphia - we are of the same Spirit - and when BS talks - BS walks.

F THEM.

The invaders can suck a D - You F'n dopeS,

We are the City of Brotherly Love - and not you - your ideology or false religion will say otherwise.

F YOU

NO ONE LIKES US - WE DON'T CARE.

I like you guys 😁

27 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Why doesn't Stout, TE coach, or literally anyone see the problem?

This is one of the reasons I'm down on Stoutland. He's the run game coordinator and I didn't see a single adjustment over the course of the season that accounted for poor play, injuries etc. It was just the same thing over and over again. If he's in charge of the running game, he needs to stand up and say hey, this isn't working.

7 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane said he wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles keep Patullo but remove him as OC and move him back to pass game coordinator and the spin is Sirianni falling on the sword and saying he put Patullo in a tough situation and that's on him.

I don’t know how you can keep him on staff. I really don’t. I get being loyal to a guy who’s been with you through a lot. Commendable. However passing game was an issue prior to him being OC. Not to this extent but it has been flawed since end of 2023. Not sure i want him being that either as it’s not like this passing game hasn’t felt like pulling teeth for a while now

19 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s like our coaches don’t think the eagles, eagles analytics department and everyone else in the league doesn’t track this stuff

This is why anyone saying Saquon lost a step can just stop right now. There was another stat I saw this weekend. On plays where Saquon wasn't hit behind the LOS, he averaged 7.1 YPC. Get an OL that can block and an OC that can call a good game and he's over 1,500 yards again next year.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think it came from anywhere, it wasn't a report, it was him just riffing on his podcast and speaking about the situation and what he sees happening. But he said Patullo is 100% gone as OC and they actually were going to consider firing him even if they won a SB.

Does anyone actually believe anyone in the Eagles organization said that to McLane?

40 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

He’s still not fired yet?

Saw Hurts once again not give a glowing recommendation for KP

Also saw someone forgot to close out their pron tab before taking a screenshot

Exit interviews need to complete first. Howie and Lurie sit down together…then Howie, Lurie and Nick sit. Nick is given directives and a short timeline. Announcements after that.

Just now, pgcd3 said:

Does anyone actually believe anyone in the Eagles organization said that to McLane?

It wasn't phrased that way exactly. He said "This is what I know from talking to people in the organization. They have known for weeks that having to sell firing Patullo after getting to another Super Bowl was going to be a messy situation so losing last night kind of removes that dilemma for them and makes it easy."

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It wasn't phrased that way exactly. He said "This is what I know from talking to people in the organization. They have known for weeks that having to sell firing Patullo after getting to another Super Bowl was going to be a messy situation so losing last night kind of removes that dilemma for them and makes it easy."

Ah it's more of selling Siriani on it. If Patullo had one or two decent performances in the playoffs he could try to save his buddy by saying they were trending up after a year of learning but yesterday being more of the same removed that argument

He can't help himself

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

This highlights exactly my issue with the play design on that last pass AJ dropped. Middle of the field was going to be wide open, they motion DG inside to set up an in/out combo rub. Draws a lot more defenders to the middle of the field through the motion and set up. AJ has a super long developing route, gets open eventually and drops an easy pass. Being allergic to slants and balls designed to get players YAC are something that are non existent. It’s like they intentionally make things harder.

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Seeing the news the Mukuba is HOPEFULL to be fully recovered by the end of the summer was pretty shocking and might change some plans at safety. At the very least, you bring Epps back on a 1-year deal. You address safety in the draft. If Blankenship tests the market and sees his value isn't what he gambled on, then you bring him back if the price is right...and cheap.

That was only EJ Smith who probably misheard him. Every other beat said he would be out of the boot in 2-3 weeks and should be ready by Spring practices.

6 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Yep. The defense wilted.

Great to see him use the play where Baun has clear pressure and clear hold.

29 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

The immediate cap hit doesn't matter that much. What matters more is the cumulative savings over the years by cutting/trading him now versus keeping him one more year. Cap hits can be spread around and no one does it better than Howie.

I'm very tempted to save Brown's $29m 2026 comp by getting rid of him now. If we keep him we eat that additional amount in the future.

WE. CAN'T. AFFORD. IT.

It would leave us with insufficient cap space to field a roster in 2026. We can only trade him after 6/1.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

He can't help himself

ESP is the perfect combo of intentionally trying to be controversial and also knowing absolutely nothing about football (or basketball).

4 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

WE. CAN'T. AFFORD. IT.

It would leave us with insufficient cap space to field a roster in 2026. We can only trade him after 6/1.

The trade him after June 1st. He’s not worth another $30m for one more season.

13 minutes ago, Miami said:

They do. Probably not their call though. Lowie are sorting it out now and we'll know soon. Am thinking Siri gets one more shot but with no teeth. Someone is coming in to run the offense a la Fangio.

Getting paid millions to basically be a cheerleader

Where do I sign up?

If the AJ situation is fixable, Howie will fix it. If not, AJ will get traded at some point before week 1.

I think the FO acknowledges the horrible position AJ was put in this season. Did he handle it well? No. Did he crap the bed yesterday? Yep. But what sense does it make to trade Brown at the trough of his value unless the situation is completely untenable?

Patullo/Sirianni made everyone look bad this year. A few posts above this, folks are debating whether Jeff Stoutland is actually a bad run game coordinator, for crying out loud.

4 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

The trade him after June 1st. He’s not worth another $30m for one more season.

Eh, then you get 2027 picks and have a massive hole at WR. If you cut him after 2026 and designate post June 1, it's $49mm in dead money as opposed to $43mm now, but you can put roughly half that dead cap in 2028. So the cost is basically $6mm more in dead cap and the $29mm you pay him for 2026, but all that money is guaranteed.

39 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane said he wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles keep Patullo but remove him as OC and move him back to pass game coordinator and the spin is Sirianni falling on the sword and saying he put Patullo in a tough situation and that's on him.

I'm sure the new OC would love that. The former OC hovering around with some position of power on the passing game which he was a horrible OC with.

Anyone wanting to trade AJ Brown is absolutely insane. He’s an elite WR.