Just now, Godfather said:

You must be drinking. AJ was a good player in Tennessee with Tannehill throwing to him. He's always been a good player. Also Devonta had a similar quote after winning as well. AJ saw this sheet offense coming in the beginning of the season

"Good" does not equal "Great".

He became a "Great player" with his 'former" best friend throwing him the ball.

His top shelf contract came after he became "great" with Hurts throwing him the ball.

You can make excuses all you want - his "great years" are behind him and he is throwing a hissy fit because his body is breaking down - blaming Hurts and everyone else because he just can't do it anymore.

Are you a betting man?

How much you want to bet AJ Brown never eclipses the 1400 yard mark like he did with Jalen Hurts?

How much?

Did Sirianni reshuffle his core values yet?

4 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think the most interesting area for improvement could come from WR3. Dotson didn’t really give us anything. We don’t pass a lot, so he dint make much of a difference as a pass catcher. He’s not super fast, so he doesn’t push coverage back. He’s not great at breaking NG tackles, so he’s not a threat on screens. And he’s not a world beating blocker, so he doesn’t give us juice in the run game.

Depending on who we bring in at OC, this is a place that could make a difference. If Wilson recovers we have our blocking WR, so I’d look for someone with game breaking speed. Someone who can impact how the defense plays against us without being a high usage player.

In an absolute fantasy world:

Mcdaniel tanks his HC interviews and comes in as the OC. In keeping with the weapon situation he loves, we get a 4.2 deep threat for Hurts to rediscover his deep rainbow in the breadbasket passing game, Devonta Smith settles in as the high volume primary target on intermediate routes, and they find a WR3/RB hybrid with exceptional agility who is an underneath matchup nightmare. Since both of those WR descriptions aren't exactly 6'2" 4.3 prototypes, they may be easier to find for less investment. (But anyone with that 4.2 deep speed has a way of sneaking into round 1). If Hurts re-channels 2022, awesome. If not, then Mcdaniel needs a QB who can drop back and see/target all 3 levels of the field.

Dotson isn't special but I also think he's more fine than we gave him credit for. The coaches lacked the creativity to vary routes and primary targets...and the QB lacked the vision to go deeper into progressions. So Dotson was sort of doomed from the beginning anyway.

Could it be the overuse of the "Tush Push" broke this offensive line? Case Study of 2025 performances of Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Mekhai Becton & Lane Johnson. All had deterioration of play this year. And even using Hurts as a battering ram may have affected his play this year as well. Need to dump that play ASAP. The magic is gone. 2024 Superbowl came with a cost.

Just now, Ace Nova said:

"Good" does not equal "Great".

He became a "Great player" with his 'former" best friend throwing him the ball.

His top shelf contract came after he became "great" with Hurts throwing him the ball.

You can make excuses all you want - his "great years" are behind him and he is throwing a hissy fit because his body is breaking down - blaming Hurts and everyone else because he just can't do it anymore.

Are you a betting man?

How much you want to bet AJ Brown never eclipses the 1400 yard mark like he did with Jalen Hurts?

How much?

Hitting 1,400 yards is more a function of being in a run first offense with a stellar #2 then some limit on his ability in my view.

If we up our passing and give him higher usage then he’ll hit those numbers.

2026 offense

QB: Hurts

OL: Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen, Johnson/Williams

WR: AJ, Smith, ?

RB: Barkley, Bigsby

TE: ?

They are primarily looking for a starting TE and the 3rd/4th WR along with the usual OL depth. I think Steen remains the starter, unless they can find someone cheap and better. Lane Johnson is going to miss several games, so they need to be prepared with a solid plan. The FO got bailed out by the Fred Johnson trade. Their plan was seriously to roll with Pryor as the main backup. Goedert is gone, his blocking was downright terrible this year. I would really like for the offense to commit more to the FB if they are going to use one. It seems the past 2 seasons they have dabbled it in with Latu, BVS, and Khari Blasingame.

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Hitting 1,400 yards is more a function of being in a run first offense with a stellar #2 then some limit on his ability in my view.

If we up our passing and give him higher usage then he’ll hit those numbers.

AJ hit 1400 in 2022 because Siri shut down the offense in the 2nd half. He should have had 1700+ with a real HC.

5 hours ago, DaBirds said:

If McDaniel can make Tua lead the league in yards he can coach Jalen.

McDaniel put up 35-33 regular season with no playoff wins and went 5-20 against play off teams across 4 years, 3 of them with Tyreek, Waddle and Achane and one of them with Fangio as DC, tell me again what an offensive genius he is.

McDaniel is the signal example of actually not anyone can win with a stacked roster and good coordinators argument.

Just now, Cochis_Calhoun said:

McDaniel put up 35-33 regular season with no playoff wins and went 5-20 against play off teams across 4 years, 3 of them with Tyreek, Waddle and Achane and one of them with Fangio as DC, tell me again what an offensive genius he is.

McDaniel is the signal example of actually not anyone can win with a stacked roster and good coordinators argument.

Not head coach. Offensive coordinator.

So if the Eagles fire Nick does anyone think he will have success any other place? Seriously, the people saying he should stay I'd love to know. Will he be an OC again? Not unless an owner is mentally insane, so maybe Dallas. Will he make the playoffs every year with another team? Not unless another amazing GM has a coaching vacancy. We saw yesterday he does less with more not more with less, so no he won't. Why does he have to stay then? Because of optics? Let's admit it he's a damn clown, but people think nobody else can step into that situation and do better? That he's the only one capable of making it work with Howie and Vic? Screw that. He won't make it any other place because it's the organization.

5 minutes ago, Godfather said:

You must be drinking. AJ was a good player in Tennessee with Tannehill throwing to him. He's always been a good player. Also Devonta had a similar quote after winning as well. AJ saw this sheet offense coming in the beginning of the season

The fact he downplayed AJ being good prior to here is hilarious. He had 1000 yards as a rookie. He followed it by having 1000 yards and 11 tds while missing 2 games in his second season. In 2021 they went to a 17 game schedule. He missed 4 games and still managed to have 869 yards meaning he was on pace for 1136 if he didn’t miss time. This was all with the titans who had tannehill at Qb and were a largely run first team.

Aj brown has always been a great WR. Furthermore a reason we had to give up a 1st and. 3rd for him. People can be mad at how he played yesterday. He was crap. Can be mad at the sideline spat. Also be mad at how he handled the issues midseason. However Aj brown was accurate in what he said. He said it would ultimately catch up to him.

Meanwhile we probably should have the discussion that next year even if they win games ugly that shouldn’t just be accepting of "can’t even be happy about winning”. Because the process matters. Winning cause of a block field goal or not completing a pass for an entire half twice are not sustainable.

2 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Could it be the overuse of the "Tush Push" broke this offensive line? Case Study of 2025 performance of Jordan Mailata, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens Mekhai Becton & Lane Johnson. All had deterioration of play this year. And even using Hurts as a battering ram may have affected his play this year as well. Need to dump that play ASAP. 2024 Superbowl came with a cost.

I think leading the league in rushing attempts by a wide margin took more of a toll than the tush push. But I still agree that play is doing the offense no favors. It was great while it lasted but it's over.

1 minute ago, TEW said:

Hitting 1,400 yards is more a function of being in a run first offense with a stellar #2 then some limit on his ability in my view.

If we up our passing and give him higher usage then he’ll hit those numbers.

With Smitty on the other side?

A true team player - just as talented as AJ Brown - better hands, better flexibility - better route runner (without question).

No - Smitty is getting the ball - all day long. Undersized and questioned from the beginning - yet a Heisman and a Lombardi trophy later - still plays second fiddle to AJ Brown? Nope - Smitty gets his 1500 yards - AJ maybe 1k if he actually comes to work.

2 minutes ago, wussbasket said:

2026 offense

QB: Hurts

OL: Mailata, Dickerson, Jurgens, Steen, Johnson/Williams

WR: AJ, Smith, ?

RB: Barkley, Bigsby

TE: ?

They are primarily looking for a starting TE and the 3rd/4th WR along with the usual OL depth. I think Steen remains the starter, unless they can find someone cheap and better. Lane Johnson is going to miss several games, so they need to be prepared with a solid plan. The FO got bailed out by the Fred Johnson trade. Their plan was seriously to roll with Pryor as the main backup. Goedert is gone, his blocking was downright terrible this year. I would really like for the offense to commit more to the FB if they are going to use one. It seems the past 2 seasons they have dabbled it in with Latu, BVS, and Khari Blasingame.

And this is why they may have trouble getting a top notch experienced OC. The NFL changes quickly. That's suddenly a really crappy offense on paper and there's nothing they can do about it.

DUMB AND DUMBER with another masterclass in offensive playcalling!

3 minutes ago, TEW said:

Hitting 1,400 yards is more a function of being in a run first offense with a stellar #2 then some limit on his ability in my view.

If we up our passing and give him higher usage then he’ll hit those numbers.

Unless he’s injured an it’s temporary I don’t think he’s getting close to that in any offense anymore. Barely gets separation at all anymore and relies on bodying the CB at the last min. Avant also says he runs trash routes.

2022 AJ was like 30% faster

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Teams would interview Bill Cosby before they interviewed Daboll

Yeh, that would be a trainers nightmare. They would have to stock way too many factory sealed hydration bottles. No more Gatorade showers...nah, pass.

1 minute ago, Arsenal79 said:

DUMB AND DUMBER with another masterclass in offensive playcalling!

I hate this guy but he's right

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

So if the Eagles fire Nick does anyone think he will have success any other place? Seriously, the people saying he should stay I'd love to know. Will he be an OC again? Not unless an owner is mentally insane, so maybe Dallas. Will he make the playoffs every year with another team? Not unless another amazing GM has a coaching vacancy. We saw yesterday he does less with more not more with less, so no he won't. Why does he have to stay then? Because of optics? Let's admit it he's a damn clown, but people think nobody else can step into that situation and do better? That he's the only one capable of making it work with Howie and Vic? Screw that. He won't make it any other place because it's the organization not anything he's doing.

Been saying this all season. @AmericanEagle77 can answer all these questions for you. He believes in Siri

Still blows my mind this was allowed to happen for an entire season.

28 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Lurie should be turning every page with Sirianni. I want him asking him what his vision of this team truly is. They went the entire season "without an identity". I want a list of potential OC's and position coaches with OC potential. They can't continue to have a revolving door at OC. I want Lurie asking him why he stuck with KP the entire season when it was clear as day in the first part of the season that he wasn't the answer. He needs to make sure he's accountable for the failure this season was and make sure he has a plan beyond just firing KP.

If Nick can't do all of that, of if Lurie isn't confident in the way Nick Responds, show him the door.

Those are the same things we said after 2023. And they'll do the same thing: hire an OC with experience.

4 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

McDaniel put up 35-33 regular season with no playoff wins and went 5-20 against play off teams across 4 years, 3 of them with Tyreek, Waddle and Achane and one of them with Fangio as DC, tell me again what an offensive genius he is.

McDaniel is the signal example of actually not anyone can win with a stacked roster and good coordinators argument.

Imo Tua is an average Qb. But i felt that way when he came out i didn’t like the injury he had nor did i think he’d translate in the nfl to being a great QB. That said i like Mcdaniels as an OC. But curious if he and sirianni would mesh if we want to stay conservative on offense. Feels like that dolphins offense was anything but conservative. do think McDaniels will utilize Barkley out of the backfield as a pass catcher more often.

Forget speed at WR, with the league going to 2 safety shells, the deep pass is harder to complete.

The receivers that give defenses the yips are guys with average to above average speed, above average quickness, above average body control who can make sharp cuts at full speed and have good size (not great, but solid, 6'0 205 or so) and strong, reliable hands. Nacua.

These are the guys who can run the whole stem, consistently make catches in traffic and get you YAC.

Brown used to be one of those guys, though he was never a great route runner and has always had inconsistent hands. This season he regressed in routes, hands and YAC. I don't think he's elite anymore.

I want a more balanced offense with an OC who can take advantage of his roster, instead of trying to run everything through 2 or 3 players.

They need 2 solid (not stars) TEs, one a full sized TE who can block in-line, one a H-back who's a better receiver than Calcaterra and who can block on the second level. Just solid reliable options that allow you to pass out of 2 TE formations. Chad Lewis was slow (5.0) but was still a solid receiving TE who found soft spots in zones - his limitation was blocking, had the size but not the strength. Witten was the prototype in-line TE who was also a great receiver. Ertz the prototype H-back.

1 hour ago, wussbasket said:

LOL, somebody raising their kid the right way! He's that kid that grows up way too fast that wants to hang out in the garage and watch the games with dad and dad's bros, maybe sneak a beer or two.

24 minutes ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Sounds like Hurts wants KP gone and AJ back.

He said he trusts...HOWIE. Then said Howie, Nick, Mr. Lurie.

Telling.

We know Hurts has never liked Patullo, he was asked about him getting the OC job and was clearly not happy last year.