18 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Wouldn't mind him as the OC

So he can leave in a year and we’re back to square one?

21 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

Would replace Nick with Stefanski in a heartbeat. Can only hope that Lurie has the balls to look past the "optics”.

The "optics' would be that a WIP caller is running the team. It would be quite insane

24 minutes ago, Godfather said:

The passing game was fn awful this year. So that wouldn't be an improvement

It wouldn't.

I literally love AJ Brown - as a receiver - the good version of AJ Brown.

But he has something within him that is not good - puts himself above the team and QB - the very same QB and team that made him who he is (or was).

That's not cool - sorry - not sorry.

And maybe AJ needs to do some inner exploring - BUT THAT GUY NEEDS TO BE A MAN AND NOT DRAG EVERYONE DOWN WITH HIM.

Get it?

You want someone who will never be a HC, has play calling experience and will make Goodell have a stroke?

Jon Gruden needs a job.

I am kidding, for the record.

12 minutes ago, NOTW said:

On Eagles fans being spoiled: I disagree, to a point.

After the 1st SB win they tried to repeat with aging veterans, it wasn't sustainable. 2017 was a combination of factors that wasn't going to be replicated. The expectations weren't as high, especially since it was the first SB win in the SB era. They drafted poorly and didn't have good replacements. Bad drafting on defense, busts like Reagor and JJAW. They learned from it.

This time around, Howie has drafted great since 2021 and actually built a championship defense mostly from the draft. Something we always dreamed of! They got a great DC in Vic Fangio. They have young stud players on defense. The core will be good for a long time. They are drafting good Linebackers, even a 1st round LB for the first time since 1970. The offense returned 10 of 11 starters. The state of the league made it wide open for them to win more games, get the #1 seed, and repeat as SB champs.

They didn't need a genius OC. A decent, competent OC would have had this offense performing.

The part I do agree with is expecting a SB win every year. It's hard to repeat. Many teams fans would love to be in the playoffs 5 years in a row and go to 2 SBs, winning 1. However, the way this played out was bad.

I wouldn't mind if they had a good OC and played well and teams just beat them. But the incompetence and negligence from the coaching on offense is inexcusable.

My issue is it was more accepting the decline of the the team from 2018 onward. Cause like you said they weren’t drafting well. And they were trying to do fixes strictly through free agency. So that decline was coming and eventually imploded in 2020.

The difference here is this team has a lot of guys in their prime. This defense is stacked and is relatively young. This offense had everybody come back from last year besides one offensive lineman and a new OC. And this offense has been like pulling teeth trying to figure out their passing game since the Niners whooped their ass in 2023.

I wouldn’t have been mad if they didn’t go out and win a Super Bowl this year. I know it’s hard to do that. Heck losing to the rams or Seahawks would really bothered me. They are very good teams. Losing games because of poor coaching, misusing talent and getting less from more has been an issue in the past. My biggest issue is their offense for the better part of 2.5 years now can’t figure out their passing game. In a Fing passing league. It’s consistently every year we’re talking about the same thing with the passing game. I watch other teams with inferior talent scheme up and design stuff to move the ball and it easier for passing game.

Yet us with superior talent continuously is like trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole or pulling teeth. They twice this year went an entire half without completing a pass. You know how incompetent you have to be in order to achieve that. Even the crappy ass titans and jets didn’t manage to do that. The fact we got worse after the bye is alarming. They were 26 in EPA and 25 in success rate. tells me no one had any answers. Just basically hoping our talent would eventually take over and it never did

1 hour ago, paco said:

I was at a eagles-steelers PRESEASON game in Pittsburgh and some stupid yinzer tried to pick a fight with me

Lol, me too. That's hilarious

19 minutes ago, NOTW said:

On Eagles fans being spoiled: I disagree, to a point.

After the 1st SB win they tried to repeat with aging veterans, it wasn't sustainable. 2017 was a combination of factors that wasn't going to be replicated. The expectations weren't as high, especially since it was the first SB win in the SB era. They drafted poorly and didn't have good replacements. Bad drafting on defense, busts like Reagor and JJAW. They learned from it.

This time around, Howie has drafted great since 2021 and actually built a championship defense mostly from the draft. Something we always dreamed of! They got a great DC in Vic Fangio. They have young stud players on defense. The core will be good for a long time. They are drafting good Linebackers, even a 1st round LB for the first time since 1970. The offense returned 10 of 11 starters. The state of the league made it wide open for them to win more games, get the #1 seed, and repeat as SB champs.

They didn't need a genius OC. A decent, competent OC would have had this offense performing.

The part I do agree with is expecting a SB win every year. It's hard to repeat. Many teams fans would love to be in the playoffs 5 years in a row and go to 2 SBs, winning 1. However, the way this played out was bad.

I wouldn't mind if they had a good OC and played well and teams just beat them. But the incompetence and negligence from the coaching on offense is inexcusable.

That's exactly it and you nailed it. We all want to win every year, which is what we should do as fans, but if a team beat them that happens. Watching someone that inept throw all that talent in the trash is inexcusable. Not only did they return most starters most of the team was healthy in the playoffs. Two very rare things and the year was wasted.

1 hour ago, paco said:

I was at a eagles-steelers PRESEASON game in Pittsburgh and some stupid yinzer tried to pick a fight with me

Probably bacarty and his son

2 hours ago, NOTW said:

I think he was laughing it off and spoke confidently about AJ...about Patullo, it was obvious in body language & words.

Maybe. Nothing is obvious when it comes to the "stoic " Hurts.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

That's exactly it and you nailed it. We all want to win every year, which is what we should do as fans, but if a team beat them that happens. Watching someone that inept throw all that talent in the trash is inexcusable. Not only did they return most starters most of the team was healthy. Two very rare things and the year was wasted.

It’s gonna hurt more when they run into a season where they just have a boatload of injuries and it sinks them. Then you look back at this season and they were relatively healthy. Yet ran themselves into the ground with poor coaching and poor execution.

9 minutes ago, D-Shiznit said:

So he can leave in a year and we’re back to square one?

Well they're likely not firing Nick. So...what you want is a good OC that will fix the offense and for them to win. So yeah if that happens he might get a HC job.

The only way is for a unicorn who doesn't exist: a Fangio but on offense. A former HC who doesn't want to be a HC anymore and will stay as OC. Who is that?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

My issue is it was more accepting the decline of the the team from 2018 onward. Cause like you said they weren’t drafting well. And they were trying to do fixes strictly through free agency. So that decline was coming and eventually imploded in 2020.

The difference here is this team has a lot of guys in their prime. This defense is stacked and is relatively young. This offense had everybody come back from last year besides one offensive lineman and a new OC. And this offense has been like pulling teeth trying to figure out their passing game since the Niners whooped their ass in 2023.

I wouldn’t have been mad if they didn’t go out and win a Super Bowl this year. I know it’s hard to do that. Heck losing to the rams or Seahawks would really bothered me. They are very good teams. Losing games because of poor coaching, misusing talent and getting less from more has been an issue in the past. My biggest issue is their offense for the better part of 2.5 years now can’t figure out their passing game. In a Fing passing league. It’s consistently every year we’re talking about the same thing with the passing game. I watch other teams with inferior talent scheme up and design stuff to move the ball and it easier for passing game.

Yet us with superior talent continuously is like trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole or pulling teeth. They twice this year went an entire half without completing a pass. You know how incompetent you have to be in order to achieve that. Even the crappy ass titans and jets didn’t manage to do that. The fact we got worse after the bye is alarming. They were 26 in EPA and 25 in success rate. tells me no one had any answers. Just basically hoping our talent would eventually take over and it never did

The offense needs to change. I mentioned earlier today that not only do they have to tell Nick you don't get to pick the staff you have to be hands off. We aren't running your system anymore and the philosophy is up to the OC. He's not going to like it and maybe he goes, but that's fine with me. He is too involved and it's a predictable system that just doesn't work unless the OL is mauling people in the run game.

36 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

I like Stefanksi but there's next to 0 chance they are swapping out Sirriani for Stefanksi. Again unless Sirriani says if Patullo goes then I go like Doug did but that seems unlikely

Would be a good hire at OC but like mcdaniels would Probably be 1 and done unless they tank and fire Nick. Which seems unlikely

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Probably bacarty and his son

He would have been in the booth. Didn't he own the team or something lol

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

It’s gonna hurt more when they run into a season where they just have a boatload of injuries and it sinks them. Then you look back at this season and they were relatively healthy. Yet ran themselves into the ground with poor coaching and poor execution.

Yep. We talked about that a few weeks ago. It's going to be the season of what if....

They have been so lucky there but eventually something will happen.

4 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Well they're likely not firing Nick. So...what you want is a good OC that will fix the offense and for them to win. So yeah if that happens he might get a HC job.

The only way is for a unicorn who doesn't exist: a Fangio but on offense. A former HC who doesn't want to be a HC anymore and will stay as OC. Who is that?

Monken?

39 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I do fear they’re going to wait and procrastinate on firing anyone and we’ll lose out on someone

Loss aversion. Not a good approach

Nick is safe but I don't think it's crazy to think he's on a warm seat in 2026. This was a 2023 lite collapse, masked by 3 things. Defense not falling completely apart, Raiders/Commanders at a favorable part of the schedule and one good win against the Bills thanks to the first point of the defense not falling apart. You could even go farther back to the bye week and thank the defense for wins against the Packers and Lions. The games were what they were but they were dangerously close from starting 6-2 and finishing 8-9.

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Kevin Hart

1 hour ago, LacesOut said:

Fangio got outcoached too. Shanahan somehow, someway schemed open their frickin Fullback. I was like who the hell is #44??!! Dude was always open. Obviously, on hindsight, I would have put 3 LBs on the field, and have Campbell spotting #44, wherever he was/went.

You've never heard of Kyle Juscyzk? He's pretty much the only true FB left in the league and he's damn good at it. Had a big play in one of their super bowls too.

12 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Monken?

A possibility. He isn't a former NFL HC (college HC) so I wasn't thinking him but he's a possible choice.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Nick is safe but I don't think it's crazy to think he's on a warm seat in 2026. This was a 2023 lite collapse, masked by 3 things. Defense not falling completely apart, Raiders/Commanders at a favorable part of the schedule and one good win against the Bills thanks to the first point of the defense not falling apart. You could even go farther back to the bye week and thank the defense for wins against the Packers and Lions. The games were what they were but they were dangerously close from starting 6-2 and finishing 8-9.

If the offense gets a new OC and it looks just as bad in 2026 then I have to believe that either Sirianni or Hurts is gone. I can’t imagine giving sirianni and hurts a 3rd season just changing up the OC.

Nick is back for 2026. However I’d love to know what lurie thinks about sirianni, hurts and the offense going forward.

47 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I do fear they’re going to wait and procrastinate on firing anyone and we’ll lose out on someone

Recent Eagles coach firing timelines:

Defensive Coordinator Sean Desai. Last game Mon Jan 15th. Fired Sun Jan 21st. 6 days.

Offensive Coordinator Brian Johnson. Last game Mon Jan 15th. Fired Tues Jan 23rd. 8 days.

Offensive Coordinator Mike Groh. Last game Sun Jan 5th. Fired Thursday Jan 9th. 4 days.

Head Coach Doug Pederson. Last game Sun Jan 3rd. Fired Monday Jan 11th. 8 days.

Offensive Coordinator Kevin Patullo. Last game Sun Jan 11th. Fired...?