1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

Daboll might be going to Titans instead of us

"Might". Like I said we'll see. But freaking out over McDaniels and Dianna Russini reports is premature.

it’s only a matter of time before we hear they are interviewing Arthur smith

I like Thomas Brown from the Pats if we wanted to go with an up and comer instead of a retread. He was reportedly was going to interview with the Chargers but that was before the McDaniels hire.

2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

We can make all the excuses we want but it's Nick and Hurts

I think it’s a multitude of factors. One, I don’t think you have total autonomy of the offense. Cause you’re gonna have to be tied to stoutland as OL coach (should be ok with that he’s the best in the league). I also don’t think Nick Sirianni is just not going to be somewhat involved. I think that’s kind of the Eagles trying to get out in front of a story to change the narrative. But nobody’s buying it.

There’s also the roster is not going to be as talented if AJ Brown is traded and Dallas goedert leaves in free agency. there’s a chance that Lane Johnson retires. So those are three integral parts of your offense that might not be there next year. Furthermore there’s a chance that if 2026 doesn’t go well that everybody’s getting fired besides Vic Fangio and Jeff Stoutland. So you could be out of a job in a year.

Then you also have to build an offense around Jalen hurts and his strength. Not everybody who’s an offensive coordinator, offensive mind wants to do that. They wanna run what they are accustomed to and knowledgeable about. In terms of McDaniel his offense is based off anticipation. His offense actually fits better with what McKee does than hurts. And that’s not a shot it hurts. It’s just McKee has to live off anticipation since he was at Stanford. He lives in the pocket and if he doesn’t win with anticipation then your offense is going to struggle cause he’s not beating you with his legs and athleticism.

Bummed about the situation. The Eagles are a highly respected organization, they came off an embarrassing year for the offense where you knew Lurie and Howie would be super motivated to get things right, they had two candidates circled for big swings and both it seems rejected them.

Hopefully they still wind up with an exciting name. I have to admit that winding up with Cooter or Kafka would put a huge wet blanket on the entire offseason for me. Would take so much juice out of it for me.

I think it’s a fairly complex set of circumstances that are hurting the Eagles here…

* There are so many damn openings to choose from.

* Coaches talk. Moore didn’t run exactly what he wanted. Patullo is putting out there that it wasn’t his fault. Whether that was Hurts or Sirianni or some combination it’s out there. Perhaps Stout plays a factor too. As good as he is, maybe it works against certain coaches. Kingsbury reportedly is one.

* AJ Brown’s status matters a great deal. Lane Johnson’s status matters. Goedert is probably gone. This offense may not be supremely talented. I think it’s more than fair to say Hurts isn’t for everyone.

* Coaches are human. They have families. They want security or the ability to move up. With the talent potentially leaving Philly, the ability to move up doesn’t look great. In terms of job security, I think Sirianni is facing a make or break year. A disappointing year and I think he’s out, especially if he’s seen as a hindrance to hiring a good OC.

6 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I like Thomas Brown from the Pats if we wanted to go with an up and comer instead of a retread. He was reportedly was going to interview with the Chargers but that was before the McDaniels hire.

Brown is as much of a retread as Slowik, Robinson, Kafka. Glizzard etc. He was an OC at one point. There's nothing wrong with retreads if you choose correctly

55 minutes ago, Godfather said:

Hit it from the back while @hputenis is tied to a chair wearing his saw mask

I prefer to dress like Captain Spaulding while role playing.

Spoiler

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think it’s a fairly complex set of circumstances that are hurting the Eagles here…

* There are so many damn openings to choose from.

* Coaches talk. Moore didn’t run exactly what he wanted. Patullo is putting out there that it wasn’t his fault. Whether that was Hurts or Sirianni or some combination it’s out there. Perhaps Stout plays a factor too. As good as he is, maybe it works against certain coaches. Kingsbury reportedly is one.

* AJ Brown’s status matters a great deal. Lane Johnson’s status matters. Goedert is probably gone. This offense may not be supremely talented. I think it’s more than fair to say Hurts will ant for everyone.

* Coaches are human. They have families. They want security or the ability to move up. With the talent potentially leaving Philly, the ability to move up doesn’t look great. In terms of job security, I think Sirianni is facing a make or break year. A disappointing year and I think he’s out, especially if he’s seen as a hindrance to hiring a good OC.

Well said. I do wonder about Stoutland. He likes to run a certain run scheme and has a lot of clout. A top OC might not want to have to inherit that clout. I know everyone here thinks they'd love to get a top guy but maybe they want someone friendly to them. All possible factors anyway

2 hours ago, pgcd3 said:

If we're being honest and I know many of you go way back like I do then philly has never been a destination for coaches. Fangio wanted to come back because he's local but other than that I can't really remember a coach with multiple options choosing philly except Chip and the competition was Cleveland.

I think both Vermiel and Ryan were much in demand.

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I think it’s a fairly complex set of circumstances that are hurting the Eagles here…

* There are so many damn openings to choose from.

* Coaches talk. Moore didn’t run exactly what he wanted. Patullo is putting out there that it wasn’t his fault. Whether that was Hurts or Sirianni or some combination it’s out there. Perhaps Stout plays a factor too. As good as he is, maybe it works against certain coaches. Kingsbury reportedly is one.

* AJ Brown’s status matters a great deal. Lane Johnson’s status matters. Goedert is probably gone. This offense may not be supremely talented. I think it’s more than fair to say Hurts will ant for everyone.

* Coaches are human. They have families. They want security or the ability to move up. With the talent potentially leaving Philly, the ability to move up doesn’t look great. In terms of job security, I think Sirianni is facing a make or break year. A disappointing year and I think he’s out, especially if he’s seen as a hindrance to hiring a good OC.

Pretty much nailed it. It’s still an attractive job. It’s not as attractive as it was a year ago or a couple of years ago. Cause you don’t know what your personnel is gonna be. And there’s more warts and flaws that have come out over time to where you are in 2026. Granted I will still take that job over the Titans, cardinals or raiders. Unless I was basing my decision on lifestyle. Just simply because the Titans are a dumpster fire organization with a bad owner. Frankly, so are the other two

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Brown is as much of a retread as Slowik, Robinson, Kafka. Glizzard etc. He was an OC at one point. There's nothing wrong with retreads if you choose correctly

Eh true but I'll give him a bit more of a pass coming in at the tail end of the Nagy disaster in Chicago. Especially since Caleb looked better once he took over playcalling in 2024.

25 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

How did Hurts do this year without a 2k rusher and a good OC? Just like JH who didn't have that either.

Better than Herbert still even though Jaown was stuck with by far the most incompetent and worst OC in the league.

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I think it’s a multitude of factors. One, I don’t think you have total autonomy of the offense. Cause you’re gonna have to be tied to stoutland as OL coach (should be ok with that he’s the best in the league). I also don’t think Nick Sirianni is just not going to be somewhat involved. I think that’s kind of the Eagles trying to get out in front of a story to change the narrative. But nobody’s buying it.

There’s also the roster is not going to be as talented if AJ Brown is traded and Dallas goedert leaves in free agency. there’s a chance that Lane Johnson retires. So those are three integral parts of your offense that might not be there next year. Furthermore there’s a chance that if 2026 doesn’t go well that everybody’s getting fired besides Vic Fangio and Jeff Stoutland. So you could be out of a job in a year.

Then you also have to build an offense around Jalen hurts and his strength. Not everybody who’s an offensive coordinator, offensive mind wants to do that. They wanna run what they are accustomed to and knowledgeable about. In terms of McDaniel his offense is based off anticipation. His offense actually fits better with what McKee does than hurts. And that’s not a shot it hurts. It’s just McKee has to live off anticipation since he was at Stanford. He lives in the pocket and if he doesn’t win with anticipation then your offense is going to struggle cause he’s not beating you with his legs and athleticism.

Agree. Those are the details of why it's mostly Nick and Hurts.

I don't see how Titans are more attractive than us

I can see Cali, going back home, and Herbert being appealing for McDaniel over us

I don’t know, I don’t get Daboll to the Titans unless he’s just really cool with Saleh. Seems like a weird fit for them too.

I’m all the way out on Señor Kafka.

Just now, RememberTheKoy said:

Better than Herbet still even though Jaown was stuck with by far the most incompetent and worst OC in the league.

Not even close. We just watched the best OC on the market say I want JH over him. If you offered Howie him for Hurts straight up he's making the move. That doesn't mean Hurts isn't better than what the Texans or Panthers have, but he is limited in the passing game and people prefer real QBs over him.

Joe Brady and Charlie Weis Jr. Now top of my list.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't see how Titans are more attractive than us

I can see Cali, going back home, and Herbert being appealing for McDaniel over us

BD worked with Hurts and obviously would prefer not to again if he takes that bad job.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Not even close. We just watched the best OC on the market say I want JH over him. If you offered Howie him for Hurts straight up he's making the move. That doesn't mean Hurts isn't better than what the Texans or Panthers have, but he is limited in the passing game and people prefer real QBs over him.

We watched him say that? Can you link me to the video?

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't see how Titans are more attractive than us

I can see Cali, going back home, and Herbert being appealing for McDaniel over us

Only thing I can think of is that he and Saleh already had an understanding. Saleh literally just took the job 2 days ago so Daboll's interest likely isn't from a sales pitch yesterday

Million dollar question will be "Does the OC really get full autonomy"?.......if we still play the passive, low risk, not try to turnover the ball, highly used comeback route offense like Sirianni wants to, then it won't matter who the OC is. We will still be running the ball on 3rd and 5 and possibly lead the league in 3 and outs again.

Give the OC the keys and lets see what this offense can do even possibly without AJ and Goedert.....while hoping Barkley can get back to his regular self.......Do we forget that although execution was brutal at times the actual play calling and design was more painful to watch? Get the guy who can call plays based on our players, based on the feel of the game and based on experience.......and no limitations and answering to Sirianni........does Vic answer to Sirianni?

Just now, Diehardfan said:

BD worked with Hurts and obviously would prefer not to again if he takes that bad job.

Daboll going to Titans is going to sting. I'd rather he goes back to Bills

3 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I don't see how Titans are more attractive than us

I can see Cali, going back home, and Herbert being appealing for McDaniel over us

No. 1 pick at QB and the chance to be HC of the offense. Even if ownership stinks, that’s more of a problem for the HC rather than the OC.

Just now, Mike030270 said:

Daboll going to Titans is going to sting. I'd rather he goes back to Bills

Ideal scenario is he goes to Bills and that frees Brady to come to us and he does. I honestly don't think Daboll or Brady will get Bills job definitely not Brady