Welp, if Goedert leaves, then the entire TE Room needs to be replaced.

If AJ stays, the WR Room is good.

5 hours ago, NOTW said:

Wish we had the money for linderbaum. Would love to have him over jurgens

4 hours ago, just relax said:

Doesn’t fit your narrative so you don’t believe it.

I just don’t feel like the information we have publicly supports the claim that he’s a beloved teammate and that the coaches love him. It’s possible, but I don’t think they talk like an organization in love with him. I can’t imagine the last few seasons with him around have been fun.

Guys like AJ create factions, so there are probably some guys that love him, like when T.O. was here, but it’s normally worse than what’s out in the open, not better. I don’t think you even entertain a trade for a guy that talented with that much dead money if there aren’t some serious issues.

I would love to be wrong and next year they all kick butt and win a happy SB together.

6 hours ago, DaBirds said:

I just don’t feel like the information we have publicly supports the claim that he’s a beloved teammate and that the coaches love him. It’s possible, but I don’t think they talk like an organization in love with him. I can’t imagine the last few seasons with him around have been fun.

Guys like AJ create factions, so there are probably some guys that love him, like when T.O. was here, but it’s normally worse than what’s out in the open, not better. I don’t think you even entertain a trade for a guy that talented with that much dead money if there aren’t some serious issues.

I would love to be wrong and next year they all kick butt and win a happy SB together.

Just go listen to his teammates talk, not to mention they anointed him captain. For example, Jordan Mailata was praising this guy last year for being a beloved teammate. Setting up team functions and all that. So there's plenty of information, not sure how you didn't hear of that stuff last year it was everywhere.

He's not TO, he's not "creating factions", that's really going out on a fabricated limb. Naturally not everyone in a lockeroom loves everyone the same, that's completely normal and human nature. But what you are describing is TO type personality which he's not and sounds like you're just trying to manifest it.

remember when fans made the book AJ was reading a best seller?

17 hours ago, T-1000 said:

In year three and four Dean looked great. He did nothing during his first two seasons and people were calling him a bust. It's amazing how quickly the narrative shifts.

I agree with your last comment. LB with Baun, Campbell, Trotter, and Mondon is good enough and possibly still a strength of the team. Meanwhile they have major needs all over the place and can't afford to allocate legit cap dollars to a LB.

I don't disagree that people called him a bust but I think my description of his play is accurate. He definitely came into his own under Fangio.

22 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Two separate conversations, before June 1 and after June 1.

My read on the situation is the Eagles internally have always planned to not have him on the roster in a year for cap/cash reasons and they don't want to get rid of him but are like if some team is willing to give us a 1st and a 2nd then we'll do it a year earlier than we wanted because we project his value to go down given he's a year older. And if not we'll just roll with him for 2026, hope the new offense gets him back to his Steichen offense production and the value will hold.

45 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

My read on the situation is the Eagles internally have always planned to not have him on the roster in a year for cap/cash reasons and they don't want to get rid of him but are like if some team is willing to give us a 1st and a 2nd then we'll do it a year earlier than we wanted because we project his value to go down given he's a year older. And if not we'll just roll with him for 2026, hope the new offense gets him back to his Steichen offense production and the value will hold.

My belief on this situation was always he was more likely gone at the end of 2027 unless the Eagles got a package like a first round pick and a conditional pick the following year. Frankly that conditional pick probably has to be a third rounder that could potentially become a second rounder based off his performance. The Eagles because of how his contract is structure makes it very hard to trade him without getting blown away by an offer. they probably think based off just his talent he was worth a lot so it’s more considering how complicated it is to deal his contract and potential issues doing so.

In regards to AJ Brown, I think we are past the "just listening" stage if there are reported asking prices. You can always just listen on any offer for any player but that doesn't mean you set a price. If someone called and offered Howie a 3rd for Hurts, he would say no and hang up, not counter with "it's going to take at least two firsts".

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

I don't disagree that people called him a bust but I think my description of his play is accurate. He definitely came into his own under Fangio.

That’s the thing. When you look at rookie film, given that both Dean and Campbell were came in with injuries from college and missed time in TC, both weren’t quite ready but Campbell started. When Dean got in the first year, he looked absolutely lost. Campbell, in contrast, looked lost at times but just at times. Comparing first year performance, Campbell is superior. I like Dean but not more than Campbell by any stretch. I also like Mondon and Trot2. I don’t see why they can’t be adequate backups. And at this point on the Birds, Dean is a backup.

But Dean struggles to stay on the field due to injuries. I am hoping some AFC team sees him as a starter and gives him a higher comp pick level contract. OLB is a bigger need.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

In regards to AJ Brown, I think we are past the "just listening" stage if there are reported asking prices. You can always just listen on any offer for any player but that doesn't mean you set a price. If someone called and offered Howie a 3rd for Hurts, he would say no and hang up, not counter with "it's going to take at least two firsts".

Maybe not with Hurts because he's the QB and you never want word to get out that you're listening to offers on your QB because if you lose them mentally then your season is over. But if a team called and offered two 2nds for Jordan Davis I think he'd listen. Or offered a 1st for Nolan Smith or two 2nds for Zach Baun I think he'd listen. It's just that AJ Brown's displeasure with the offense is so public that it became a story. But how many trade conversations happen behind the scenes that we don't hear about? CJGJ was a surprise trade last year that I'm sure was playing out behind the scenes the exact same way, it's just that CJGJ isn't a superstar and there was no public discontent, so it wasn't something that insiders were poking around on everyday for updates.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Maybe not with Hurts because he's the QB and you never want word to get out that you're listening to offers on your QB because if you lose them mentally then your season is over. But if a team called and offered two 2nds for Jordan Davis I think he'd listen. Or offered a 1st for Nolan Smith or two 2nds for Zach Baun I think he'd listen. It's just that AJ Brown's displeasure with the offense is so public that it became a story. But how many trade conversations happen behind the scenes that we don't hear about? CJGJ was a surprise trade last year that I'm sure was playing out behind the scenes the exact same way, it's just that CJGJ isn't a superstar and there was no public discontent, so it wasn't something that insiders were poking around on everyday for updates.

Yea, I don't disagree they wouldn't listen for offers on Smith, Baun, Davis etc. My point was once you start making counter offers or setting a price, you start wading into the territory of trying to facilitate a trade which to me is very different than just listening.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

In regards to AJ Brown, I think we are past the "just listening" stage if there are reported asking prices. You can always just listen on any offer for any player but that doesn't mean you set a price. If someone called and offered Howie a 3rd for Hurts, he would say no and hang up, not counter with "it's going to take at least two firsts".

You're of the "where there's smoke there's fire" mindset, and that has been right in a lot of circumstances. That basically once you start listening to offers, you are almost forced to make a move to avoid the awkwardness of bringing the player back. But that doesn't always hold true, especially for Howie -- just see Goedert last year and Sweat the year before.

I think this is as simple as they told AJ and Sexton that they would consider offers, but they needed a huge return to justify taking a massive cap hit. The biggest news in the last 24 hours was confirmation that DG's contract was NOT adjusted to allow a post June 1 release, meaning the $20mm of dead money all hits 2026 unless they extend him before 3/10. That makes trading AJ before June 1 basically impossible.

And in the above, we have no starting TE, CB2 or safety.

Surprised we haven't gotten a Jordan Davis extension yet. Figured it would be before the start of free agency to creat some wiggle room with the cap.

1 minute ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Surprised we haven't gotten a Jordan Davis extension yet. Figured it would be before the start of free agency to creat some wiggle room with the cap.

I think he and JC get announced right at the start of the league year

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea, I don't disagree they wouldn't listen for offers on Smith, Baun, Davis etc. My point was once you start making counter offers or setting a price, you start wading into the territory of trying to facilitate a trade which to me is very different than just listening.

I think the cap hit and them not having any obvious replacement makes this very difficult. Also, why would other teams want to do a deal now before they see what other moves they can make? Why would the Patriots give up a 1st when they could just try to sign Mike Evans and keep their pick? Or see if someone falls to them in the draft? Or pursue WRs who will cost less on the trade block? I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense for teams to give up max value in a trade before the new league year and it also doesn't make sense for the Eagles given the cap hit and lack of flexibility they have this offseason to move him for not max value. So I don't think the timelines for both parties really align here to where it'll make sense.

Maybe if teams strike out on WRs in free agency and draft and a guy the Eagles really like falls to them in the draft or if they were make a trade for a WR elsewhere like a Brian Thomas Jr then this would make more sense for all parties to revisit after June 1st.