The Eagles have to extend Goedert at this stage. They keep prolonging his free agency. If they bail on him now that would be f'n disgraceful on their part.

Howie should invite every PSU player in for the free visit. Duzansky is a highly rated LS. The biggest hole the Eagles have at this time. Probably an UDFA but he is pretty good.

Need to see if Dennis Sutton can be trained on pass rushing techniques. Good run stopper.

Several OL worth checking out Suspect Shelton has some G/T possibilities. They need a backup at G better than Kendall or Major at that position. May be that backup G/T is the biggest need on the team.

Might as well bring in Wheatley.

Borrowing this tweet from another thread.

Scrolling through the thread I decided to look at some of the TEs on this list that I havent watched yet.

I watched RJ Maryland, then Dae'Quan Wright, then Joe Royer.

What a fun time. I liked each of them more than the last.

I started off impressed iwth Maryland's speed. So I went to look at the combine numbers and found he ran a 4.51. I was like wow, thats really good- what did Stowers run? Found it was also a 4.51.

Read the scouting report on Maryland and said he is a build up speed guy. So I compared his 10 yard to Stowers's and yes, its slower. What that tells me is that RJ Maryland actually has better top end speed than Stowers. We know what a dynamic weapon Stowers looks like so thats impressive.

Then I got to Dae'Quan Wright. Athletic in his own right, it stood out to me that he might be the most physical runner at TE. I thought Cuevas was that guy. Wright is right there with him, maybe better. One thing for sure, he looks more athletic than Cuevas.

Last was Joe Royer. And the video starts out with announcers comparing him to Travis Kelce. And, yeah thats probably far fetched. But WOW! Earlier today I posted the McShay clip talking about how good Max Klare is and he said if you want to scout TEs, look at the RAC. Not a lot of guys this big have the flexibility and elusiveness that Max Klare shows when he runs after the catch. WELLLLL.... I think we found 1 guy who has it. Maybe more than Klare.

Royer has a weird build. He is 6'5''. When the camera is close up, he looks big. Most of the time though, it looks like he has really short legs and you almost think he looks small. Maybe those short legs help lower his center of gravity and create great balance for him.

Hes a guy who will maybe go day 3 and might be a bonafide star.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Well Garafolo seems to be the only one saying that. McLane, Schefter, others have not said anything about "They can’t bring both these guys back.” I don’t think there is some mandate to where Brown and Goedert can’t be on the roster the same year. Because I think it’s perfectly possible if not likely that Brown is on the roster on opening day and if they do get rid of Goedert then by all accounts they are probably going to pivot to another TE like Njoku. And still are in on Greenard. So it seems a little random that with all these other players they’d be interested in, they randomly draw the line at Dallas Goedert.

I don’t think nationals reporters are in the weeds enough to get into the cash aspect of deals, I think Garafolo likely misspoke because the whole cap stuff regarding Brown and Goedert are confusing. I think if cash was their biggest issue they just wouldn’t have signed Woolen/Jones/Ebiketie, etc. I think if cash was that big of an issue they’d have approached this offseason a lot differently. I think Goedert is about value of his contract and AJ Brown is "we’ll move him if we get an offer worth it” and it’s not much more complicated than that. I don’t believe the Goedert and Brown situation are linked at all.

McLane and someone else (forget, maybe Russinni) didn’t exactly say they can’t afford both but they parroted similar responses along the lines of "Eagles want clarity on the Brown situation sooner rather than later so they can figure out everyone else.”

I think paying on offense vs defense also comes into play. They can’t keep paying everyone on offense.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

If the Eagles re-sign Goedert by Monday then I think it all but confirms this wasn't a cash thing. Because if the Eagles truly couldn't afford to keep both of them in terms of cash, then the Eagles would simply not re-sign Goedert. If they did re-sign Goedert, then they'd be forced to trade AJ Brown and what if the best offer they get in June is like a 3rd? Then they'd be forced to trade him for pennies on the dollar. There's no way they could justify making that kinda trade. They have no control over what the offers would be in June. So if this was about cash then they're going to let Goedert go on Monday and then basically do nothing until the draft. To which I would be pretty surprised at based on the reporting and buzz out there at the moment(though livid if it did go down that way).

If Monday comes and the Eagles just let him walk, then I think it gives a lot more credence to this being about cash. And even then they wouldn't pivot to another TE.

My prediction is they sign Goedert and trade AJ Brown post June 1st without paying his bonus. I just think Howie doesn’t want this but is being forced into it.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

My prediction is they sign Goedert and trade AJ Brown post June 1st without paying his bonus. I just think Howie doesn’t want this but is being forced into it.

Yup how i feel about it.

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

My prediction is they sign Goedert and trade AJ Brown post June 1st without paying his bonus. I just think Howie doesn’t want this but is being forced into it.

I don't think they'd choose Goedert over Brown though. Goedert is over 30 and had a pretty steep decline in terms of his blocking. I think if it was truly an either or in terms of cash they'd just let Goedert walk. I don't think they'd want to risk having to trade Brown for less than the price they value him at and if there was a mandate and the offers were below that value then Howie would be forced to. If it was truly an either or I think they would just let Goedert go and draft a TE in the draft. Goedert is much easier to replace than Brown.

But I don't think there's a cash mandate. I mean there is to a degree, but I think if there was in the context that Garafolo framed it we'd have seen them operate a lot differently this offseason. Also I don't think Lurie would force Howie to get rid of good and productive players he usually doesn't put Howie in that position. The fact that the Eagles have not traded yet makes me thinks it's not as much about cash. Because I think it's unlikely the offers are better in June given that teams will have completed their drafts and if either the Rams or Patriots draft a WR early then both will be less inclined to make a trade for Brown. Howie's not stupid, even though it would greatly affect their cap, in terms of value, now is the time to do it. Given how firm Howie has held to the asking price tells me he's not desperate to move him. And if he was put between a rock and a hard place in terms of cash I think he'd have been more flexible in his asking price. I think they could move him in June, but only if the offer matches their asking price. But if you're right, and the Eagles re-sign Goedert, then Howie will have to trade Brown after June 1st no matter what the offer is. Even if it's say just a 2nd round pick. And I just don't see Howie leaving himself vulnerable like that. If that were the case he'd have just done it now, just taken the 1st and 3rd(assuming reports are true) and run with it.

I think the "They need clarity on Brown before doing other things) has more to do with the cap hit. AJ Brown's cap hit is 20m, so take whatever cap space they have and subtract 20m from it. They need to know what their cap space is going to be before they start factoring in what other moves they can make.

1 minute ago, Sack that QB said:

I don't think they'd choose Goedert over Brown though. Goedert is over 30 and had a pretty steep decline in terms of his blocking. I think if it was truly an either or in terms of cash they'd just let Goedert walk. I don't think they'd want to risk having to trade Brown for less than the price they value him at and if there was a mandate and the offers were below that value then Howie would be forced to. If it was truly an either or I think they would just let Goedert go and draft a TE in the draft. Goedert is much easier to replace than Brown.

But I don't think there's a cash mandate. I mean there is to a degree, but I think if there was in the context that Garafolo framed it we'd have seen them operate a lot differently this offseason. Also I don't think Lurie would force Howie to get rid of good and productive players he usually doesn't put Howie in that position. The fact that the Eagles have not traded yet makes me thinks it's not as much about cash. Because I think it's unlikely the offers are better in June given that teams will have completed their drafts and if either the Rams or Patriots draft a WR early then both will be less inclined to make a trade for Brown. Howie's not stupid, even though it would greatly affect their cap, in terms of value, now is the time to do it. Given how firm Howie has held to the asking price tells me he's not desperate to move him. And if he was put between a rock and a hard place in terms of cash I think he'd have been more flexible in his asking price. I think they could move him in June, but only if the offer matches their asking price. But if you're right, and the Eagles re-sign Goedert, then Howie will have to trade Brown after June 1st no matter what the offer is. Even if it's say just a 2nd round pick. And I just don't see Howie leaving himself vulnerable like that. If that were the case he'd have just done it now, just taken the 1st and 3rd(assuming reports are true) and run with it.

I think the "They need clarity on Brown before doing other things) has more to do with the cap hit. AJ Brown's cap hit is 20m, so take whatever cap space they have and subtract 20m from it. They need to know what their cap space is going to be before they start factoring in what other moves they can make.

I don’t think it’s choosing Goedert over Brown. I think Brown wants out enough privately that it’s forcing the issue.

14 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think it’s choosing Goedert over Brown. I think Brown wants out enough privately that it’s forcing the issue.

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17 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think it’s choosing Goedert over Brown. I think Brown wants out enough privately that it’s forcing the issue.

So say the Eagles re-sign Goedert and Patriots and Rams draft a WR early and interest in Brown(at least this year) dries up after the draft and they have no trade partners available. Hypothetically. If you think it's a cash thing then you think they would just cut him then? Because if the answer is "No, at that point they'd just go into the season with him and then look to move him in 2027" then there's no cash mandate.

I think they are going to re-sign Goedert and I think in June if they get an offer of a 1st and a 2nd or something close to that like a 1st and 3rd they could very well move him. If not, I think he'll be on the team through 2026 and then next year he'll be traded.

20 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

So say the Eagles re-sign Goedert and Patriots and Rams draft a WR early and interest in Brown(at least this year) dries up after the draft and they have no trade partners available. Hypothetically. If you think it's a cash thing then you think they would just cut him then? Because if the answer is "No, at that point they'd just go into the season with him and then look to move him in 2027" then there's no cash mandate.

I think they are going to re-sign Goedert and I think in June if they get an offer of a 1st and a 2nd or something close to that like a 1st and 3rd they could very well move him. If not, I think he'll be on the team through 2026 and then next year he'll be traded.

No. I think that’s Howies worst nightmare which he has tried to avoid by all his actions.

It’s not like Howie has a set amount of cash he absolutely can’t go over. It’s still a business to him though. They plan to spend X amount of cash in the 2026 year and if he goes $10M to $30M+ more than Lurie anticipated, Howie’s the one that needs to own it. Howie doesn’t have a blank check book, so he needs to make everything work with what’s planned for him to use.

These media guys also aren’t going to go that much in depth about something the general public doesn’t care about. I’d say more than half the time they are just repeating lines they have been fed. It wouldn’t surprise me if Goederts agent was saying that given how long it’s taking to get his deal done with no other team showing any interest in him at all.

5 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

Last was Joe Royer. And the video starts out with announcers comparing him to Travis Kelce. And, yeah thats probably far fetched. But WOW! Earlier today I posted the McShay clip talking about how good Max Klare is and he said if you want to scout TEs, look at the RAC. Not a lot of guys this big have the flexibility and elusiveness that Max Klare shows when he runs after the catch. WELLLLL.... I think we found 1 guy who has it. Maybe more than Klare.

Royer has a weird build. He is 6'5''. When the camera is close up, he looks big. Most of the time though, it looks like he has really short legs and you almost think he looks small. Maybe those short legs help lower his center of gravity and create great balance for him.

Hes a guy who will maybe go day 3 and might be a bonafide star.

Probably lazy commentary because they share the same college…

WalterFootball has him as their #5 TE…Klare was 4. Both have round 2-3 grades

Guys, it’s not that complicated.

Garofolo is an idiot.

Mystery solved.

Get the cancer out of here already. Enough is enough.

As for Goedert, let him walk too. His blocking was atrocious last year.

49 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Get the cancer out of here already. Enough is enough.

As for Goedert, let him walk too. His blocking was atrocious last year.

They can't take both cap hits before June 1 and field a team.

3 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

They can't take both cap hits before June 1 and field a team.

So we can't both trade Brown AND void Goedert. Seems people are getting confused thinking we can't keep both Brown and Goedert but in reality they can't lose both at this point. If they keep Brown they can void Goedert and if they trade Brown they have to keep Goedert (or do something else to relieve cap current cap). Is that correct?

If I've understood correctly then it means Goedert holds the cards right now in his negotiation for as long as Howie is looking to trade Brown. Seems like Brown has made it clear he wants out. Hence the deadlock. The easiest way out is to just sign Goedert but that would certainly cost more than Howie wants to pay. Tough spot for Howie. He either has to pay Goedert more than he has planned or trade Brown for less than he wants back.

2 hours ago, McMVP said:

Probably lazy commentary because they share the same college…

WalterFootball has him as their #5 TE…Klare was 4. Both have round 2-3 grades

5th sounds about right. I was surprised watching thinking this guy is one of the best TEs in the class.

I guess Id go

Sadiq

Showers

Klare

Delp

Royer

Probably only Delp over Royer because of Delps blocking.

Drafttek has him 10th

Everyone is way over thinking this because Garafolo throw some BS at the wall. The Eagles have plenty of money for Brown and Goedert both in terms of the cap and their own personal budget. People keep forgetting they were about to spend upwards of 25 million on Phillips and haven't spent anywhere near that combined, since. This is all a matter of what they want to do, not what they are limited to doing. Not to mention that from a cap standpoint they would save a ton of space by keeping Brown and re-signing Goedert. People need to stop acting like everything these "insiders" say is fact because over the half of the time they are completely full of crap.

2 hours ago, Arsenal79 said:

Get the cancer out of here already. Enough is enough.

As for Goedert, let him walk too. His blocking was atrocious last year.

Great idea. Calcaterra is so much better as a blocker and a TE room of him and Mundt would be awesome.

9 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

The Eagles have to extend Goedert at this stage. They keep prolonging his free agency. If they bail on him now that would be f'n disgraceful on their part.

Agreed. Not only that if you are Goedert why would you keep pushing back your ability to become a free agent and get paid if there wasn't some type of insurance from the Eagles that a deal will get done. The longer he stays under their control the less money he gets elsewhere and the less opportunity there is for opportunities if other TE's sign or interested teams allocate money to other positions. He could have become a free agent on Wednesday and has willingly pushed it back 5 days which is a major factor this early in free agency when it comes to his ability to get paid. Not only that, there isn't much left on the FA market at TE and the Eagles cant go into the draft with Calcaterra and Mundt. That isn't enough period but especially with what Mannion is expected to bring with his offense. Common sense, all of this.

37 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Everyone is way over thinking this because Garafolo throw some BS at the wall. The Eagles have plenty of money for Brown and Goedert both in terms of the cap and their own personal budget. People keep forgetting they were about to spend upwards of 25 million on Phillips and haven't spent anywhere near that combined, since. This is all a matter of what they want to do, not what they are limited to doing. Not to mention that from a cap standpoint they would save a ton of space by keeping Brown and re-signing Goedert. People need to stop acting like everything these "insiders" say is fact because over the half of the time they are completely full of crap.

Right and the problem actually is that Howie can’t both trade Brown and void Goedert as that would be a massive cap issue.

12 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He is probably talking about cash

Why would that matter? They were willing and prepared to hand Jaelan Phillips millions up front and didn't. Then supposedly they were going to do the same for Hendrickson. Signing Ebiketie didn't even put in the dent in the up front money it would have taken for them and in terms of Woolen maybe they spent a little more on corner after losing out on Phillips but I am sure they were budgeting at least half of that in the first place.