Video of his TDs last season

19 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Unless Jalen Carter is getting signed this offseason, wouldn't it be better to eat the $20m Goedert hit now rather than kick it into future years that we'll be trying to re-sign Carter/Q/Coop?

Doesn't the new deal for Goedert reduce next year's hit?

42 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Kinda weird how everyone else in the league has next to no interest in Goedert

Maybe health?

Our red zone threat is back for another year!

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Fully anticipating the draft to look something like this. Offensive heavy. Probably an edge rusher/D-Lineman in round 2 or 3.

Need Oline first.

29 minutes ago, Eriv20 said:

Drew allar? Lol. He ain’t good enough for the XFL. What a waste of a 3rd pick if I’ve ever seen one

Yeah that’s how most of us felt about Hurts in round 2.

Allar has the physical ability to be a starting QB. Not sure on the mental side of things though. My point is don’t be shocked if they go QB early in the draft.

I am on record for wanting AJ back. I don't think it makes sense to trade one of our most dangerous offensive players and take on a big cap hit unless the dynamics in locker room are so bad. The ideal play for me would have been to transition TE this year and WR next year as they desperately need to get younger on O.

Bringing Goedert back in my view increases chances that AJ is gone this year and they do the transition the other way around. Having Goedert this year cushions blow of AJ being moved and bringing in a younger WR so you don't transition two key receiving targets at the same time.

The one part of AJ that doesn't get talked about a lot is they might really think he's on the decline and that what they get this offseason is a lot more than they could get later

2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The one part of AJ that doesn't get talked about a lot is they might really think he's on the decline and that what they get this offseason is a lot more than they could get later

We will hope that other teams see AJ Brown's discontent and KP's incompetence as the reasons he failed last year. I don't happen to think that personally.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Makes bringing Calcy back all the more perplexing. Surely their plan for TE room can't just be replacing Granson with Mundt

Curious to see how much money Goedert got. The fact that terms didn't come out right away bodes well for it being a bargain. I was thinking he wouldg et a two year deal for around 16-18 million.

1 minute ago, T-1000 said:

Curious to see how much money Goedert got. The fact that terms didn't come out right away bodes well for it being a bargain. I was thinking he wouldg et a two year deal for around 16-18 million.

Thinking 7 million guaranteed with incentives. 

1 minute ago, kiwieagle said:

Makes bringing Calcy back all the more perplexing. Surely their plan for TE room can't just be replacing Granson with Mundt

I wouldn't have brought him back under any circumstances but you'd have to think Calcaterra is the guy draft proofing the position. I would expect them to draft TE somewhere on day two and for Calcaterra to be gone or on the PS.

7 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The one part of AJ that doesn't get talked about a lot is they might really think he's on the decline and that what they get this offseason is a lot more than they could get later

I’m sure that’s part of it but also I don’t see any way this offense is just as good with him than without him.

If we were a young team where just making the playoffs would be a win then there’d probably be a deal in place already.

44 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

They don't trust him to stay healthy. Historically, he's not a red zone monster, although he did catch a lot of uncontested schemed out TD's last year.

So if you overlook one year of 11 TDs, you are left with a TE that apparently doesn't block anymore, you can't trust to stay healthy, and will be good for about 550 receiving yards. That's replacement level TE right there and it's the reason no one bit in FA.

So the reunion made sense. He was basically offered nothing and sticks around another year so we don't have to freak out about TE, all while diffusing his cap hit.

Last year he had 60 receptions for 591 yards in 15 games. Over 17 that is 68 for 670 yards. That was as a 3rd receiving option in a terrible passing attack. He is considerably better than a 550 yard replacement level TE.

6 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Makes bringing Calcy back all the more perplexing. Surely their plan for TE room can't just be replacing Granson with Mundt

They weren’t certain Goedert was coming back so I get it. The position is still relatively thin

3 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

I wouldn't have brought him back under any circumstances but you'd have to think Calcaterra is the guy draft proofing the position. I would expect them to draft TE somewhere on day two and for Calcaterra to be gone or on the PS.

Just now, EaglePhan1986 said:

They weren’t certain Goedert was coming back so I get it. The position is still relatively thin

Provided the decline in Godert's blocking is more to do with age than something that comes back next year, there is just no world where I want both Godert and Calcy on the field together. For the sake of the running game, the are unplayable as a combo.

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

They weren’t certain Goedert was coming back so I get it. The position is still relatively thin

They have a good number 1 TE and 3rd/blocking TE. They just need a good backup with receiving skills, preferably a young one in the draft.

6 minutes ago, jojodancer said:

Thinking 7 million with incentives. 

On a 1-yr deal I think he'll get more. He's better than most of the guys who got more

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

On a 1-yr deal I think he'll get more. He's better than most of the guys who got more

I'm guessing 8-10.

13 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

The one part of AJ that doesn't get talked about a lot is they might really think he's on the decline and that what they get this offseason is a lot more than they could get later

It’s also contractual. Brown is likely pushing for more money beyond 2026 and Howie likely has zero interest in having two $25M per year WRs for the long term. Devonta Smith will be the WR1 going forward and allow Howie to have the resources to extend the core of his defense.

The asking price for trading AJ Brown post-June 1 will be different than it is now. He’ll likely be traded during the summer for a 2nd and a 3rd (or young roster player) and everyone in here will lose their minds over it.

IMO, he just doesn’t want to be here anymore, and cajoling or babying him in an effort to change his attitude isn’t the right way to go.

7 minutes ago, T-1000 said:

Last year he had 60 receptions for 591 yards in 15 games. Over 17 that is 68 for 670 yards. That was as a 3rd receiving option in a terrible passing attack. He is considerably better than a 550 yard replacement level TE.

Over the last 3 seasons, he averages 558 yards receiving per season.

Thats literally not at all better than 550 yards and it’s 3 seasons of data.

Just now, Alphagrand said:

It’s also contractual. Brown is likely pushing for more money beyond 2026 and Howie likely has zero interest in having two $25M per year WRs for the long term. Devonta Smith will be the WR1 going forward and allow Howie to have the resources to extend the core of his defense.

The asking price for trading AJ Brown post-June 1 will be different than it is now. He’ll likely be traded during the summer for a 2nd and a 3rd (or young roster player) and everyone in here will lose their minds over it.

IMO, he just doesn’t want to be here anymore, and cajoling or babying him in an effort to change his attitude isn’t the right way to go.

Yep. He's gone. It's just a matter of when and for what, not if.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

Over the last 3 seasons, he averages 558 yards receiving per season.

Thats literally not at all better than 550 yards and it’s 3 seasons of data.

He's missed 12 games over those three seasons which you conveniently leave out in trying to justify calling him a 550 yard guy. Call him injury prone, fine, but you are factually you incorrect in calling him a 550 yard replacement level tight end. Over those last three seasons he has averaged 43.8 yards per game which is 745 yards per 17 games. Last year was his lowest number at 39.4 ypg which is still 670 yards per 17 games. The average TE in the NFL doesn't produce at that level.