I'm really warming up to Iheanachor. I was scared at first with Stoutland gone, but I'd take him over the likes of Blake Miller and Lomu. Probably in a trade down though. Ioane and Iheanachor are "my guys" at OL in a draft where I really don't love the OL prospects. But I think you should always shoot for highest ceiling in the first round and that's one guy who is already elite and the other who has a chance to be.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm really warming up to Iheanachor. I was scared at first with Stoutland gone, but I'd take him over the likes of Blake Miller and Lomu. Probably in a trade down though. Ioane and Iheanachor are "my guys" at OL in a draft where I really don't love the OL prospects. But I think you should always shoot for highest ceiling in the first round and that's one guy who is already elite and the other who has a chance to be.

Im still concerned without Stoutland. But one point of comfort is that Iheanachor has already made incredible improvements without Stoutland in his life so, yes OL can develop without Stoutland as their coach and he is doing it.

18 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

I'm really warming up to Iheanachor. I was scared at first with Stoutland gone, but I'd take him over the likes of Blake Miller and Lomu. Probably in a trade down though. Ioane and Iheanachor are "my guys" at OL in a draft where I really don't love the OL prospects. But I think you should always shoot for highest ceiling in the first round and that's one guy who is already elite and the other who has a chance to be.

Iheanachor is my guy too.

Traits all there if he develops which has generally been the Howie approach to drafting but yes, would be on the riskier side to some others.

Jeff McLane on his latest pod:

The WRs were frustrated at Hurts at points during the season where the ball wasn't going where it was supposed to be or he wasn't throwing it where they wanted it.

He respects the national insiders, but doesn't believe the Eagles would legitimately consider trading AJ to the Rams. He knows how Howie thinks and he isn't going to want to trade AJ to an NFC rival. He said someone on the Eagles told him that if they were to consider trading him it would only be to AFC teams.

Said he doesn't believe the Patriots made a formal offer.

Said the Eagles want 2027 picks, they believe have enough picks in 2026 as it is.

Says teams may be concerned about AJ Brown's knees and that's why no teams have met Howie's asking price and there seemingly isn't a much bigger market for him. Said the Eagles may be concerned as well, and that could be a big reason they are considering moving him. He said he knows for a fact that teams when AJ Brown was drafted had concerns about his knees, including the Eagles, and that was a reason the Titans were hesitant to pay him and ended up trading him.

Said Sydney Brown wanted out. Fangio took him to task after the Bears game in the locker room and it was big enough that other players took notice and were talking about.

There was a lack of communication with Sydney Brown. He wasn't aware of his role during the season and up until right before the first game, he didn't know that he would only play on base downs.

Andy Dalton trade has no impact on McKee and he'll probably be back.

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane on his latest pod:

The WRs were frustrated at Hurts at points during the season where the ball wasn't going where it was supposed to be or he wasn't throwing it where they wanted it.

He respects the national insiders, but doesn't believe the Eagles would legitimately consider trading AJ to the Rams. He knows how Howie thinks and he isn't going to want to trade AJ to an NFC rival. He said someone on the Eagles told him that if they were to consider trading him it would only be to AFC teams.

Said he doesn't believe the Patriots made a formal offer.

Said the Eagles want 2027 picks, they believe have enough picks in 2026 as it is.

Says teams may be concerned about AJ Brown's knees and that's why no teams have met Howie's asking price and there seemingly isn't a much bigger market for him. Said the Eagles may be concerned as well, and that could be a big reason they are considering moving him. He said he knows for a fact that teams when AJ Brown was drafted had concerns about his knees, including the Eagles, and that was a reason the Titans were hesitant to pay him and ended up trading him.

Said Sydney Brown wanted out. Fangio took him to task after the Bears game in the locker room and it was big enough that other players took notice and were talking about.

There was a lack of communication with Sydney Brown. He wasn't aware of his role during the season and up until right before the first game, he didn't know that he would only play on base downs.

Andy Dalton trade has no impact on McKee and he'll probably be back.

I remember at one point Sydney Brown said he wanted to show he could play more than special teams. Might have been 2 years ago. Might have been before last season. Cant remember.

Im sure he wasnt happy still being a bench player here, but he must have an unrealistic opinion of himself.

If the eagles are concerned bout AJ Brown's knees, theyll lower the asking price to get rid of him. When they get a 3rd round pick fans would be mad. Then AJ plays and shows he cant separate anymore and fans will realize the eagles cut bait at the right time.

So Im not buying the story that they may be concerned too. If they are, theyre being Daryl Morey stupid by setting such a high asking price.

1 hour ago, T-1000 said:

Remember when everyone said he was a "slot only" guy and then he didn't get picked until 20th overall? That is exactly why I scoff at people for saying the same thing about Omar Cooper Jr. or just about anyone for that matter.

Was also the reason we passed on Justin Jefferson.

28 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

remember at one point Sydney Brown said he wanted to show he could play more than special teams. Might have been 2 years ago. Might have been before last season. Cant remember.

Im sure he wasnt happy still being a bench player here, but he must have an unrealistic opinion of himself.

His twin brother is a pretty decent starting RB for the Bengals so you know it has to be eating at him not starting

31 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Was also the reason we passed on Justin Jefferson.

Jefferson was also way more productive in college than Cooper Jr. Jefferson would get like 110 balls in college for like 1300 yards.

49 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Jeff McLane on his latest pod:

Says teams may be concerned about AJ Brown's knees

This would be my concern. If his production declines and he’s not getting open he isn’t going to blame his knees…

38 minutes ago, kiwieagle said:

Was also the reason we passed on Justin Jefferson.

I don’t think anyone has ever gone deeper than that on exactly why they passed on Justin Jefferson. It’s fascinating and tragic. Passing on him was the culmination of an aggressive pivot away from a wr draft strategy that had failed them for nearly 2 decades.

They consistently drafted under explosive WRs who were balanced, but not that big and not that fast. From Freddie Mitchell to Reggie Brown to Agholor to Jordan Matthews to Josh Huff to JJAW…just underwhelming physical specimens with average to below average movement. And it all came to a head and got thrown in their face leading up to that draft.

And…fate can be cruel. Because that draft literally dropped the best "balance, not that big not that fast” wr of the freaking generation into the Eagles lap. And because of their past transgressions, they had to pivot into a guy who was hyped as a workout warrior, who, ironically wasn’t even even that. He actually flopped in his workout. Any other year, they’d have sprinted to the podium to call Jefferson’s name.

AJ :

1) Potentially damaged knees (both have had surgeries) and tight hamstrings

2) Approaching the 30 year mark

3) Is a diva and thinks he's Jerry Rice

4) Dogs it if he doesn't get the ball

5) Doesn't lay out for passes any longer

6) Wants out because he knows he's not getting an extension here and guaranteed money on contract is drying up soon. Acquiring team would have to give him a yuuuge contract. Especially after today's signing of Ngjiba.

7) Doesn't know or care on how to work refs for PI

8) Is a Patriot fan. And worships Tom Brady. Yuck!

And people all concluded in here that he's worth 2 top picks. 😅 In what world? Patriots will probably be bidding against themselves. I'm just worried that the ship sailed and Howie gets punished for being greedy. Eye test says this guy is on the decline. And Devanta is the clear number 1 here. I'm going with that.

6 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think anyone has ever gone deeper than that on exactly why they passed on Justin Jefferson. It’s fascinating and tragic. Passing on him was the culmination of an aggressive pivot away from a wr draft strategy that had failed them for nearly 2 decades.

They consistently drafted under explosive WRs who were balanced, but not that big and not that fast. From Freddie Mitchell to Reggie Brown to Agholor to Jordan Matthews to Josh Huff to JJAW…just underwhelming physical specimens with average to below average movement. And it all came to a head and got thrown in their face leading up to that draft.

And…fate can be cruel. Because that draft literally dropped the best "balance, not that big not that fast” wr of the freaking generation into the Eagles lap. And because of their past transgressions, they had to pivot into a guy who was hyped as a workout warrior, who, ironically wasn’t even even that. He actually flopped in his workout. Any other year, they’d have sprinted to the podium to call Jefferson’s name.

I still contend that pick was Julians U Penn analytics buddy…

And i will go to my grave bitter about that pick. Along with LJ Smith over Witten.

28 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

His twin brother is a pretty decent starting RB for the Bengals so you know it has to be eating at him not starting

Dont care. Play better

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Local visit

1 hour ago, kiwieagle said:

Was also the reason we passed on Justin Jefferson.

Good point. As did Oakland (Ruggs) and Denver (Jeudy). Dallas gets a pass since Lamb is almost as good as Jefferson.

1 hour ago, Alphagrand said:

His twin brother is a pretty decent starting RB for the Bengals so you know it has to be eating at him not starting

We should probably stop drafting DB’s named Sydney or Sidney

So Iloane isn't a top 30 either right?

1 hour ago, ToastJenkins said:

Dont care. Play better

Alec?

Mock Rest of the Season

Baltimore trade 14 and 115 for AJ Brown and 197
Steelers trade 53 and 161 for McKee and 137

Chiefs trade 29, 40, and 75 for 23, 54, and 98

14 - Dillon Thieneman
29 - Max Iheanachor

40 - Denzel Boston

53 - Oscar Delp

68 - Dennis-Sutton

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think anyone has ever gone deeper than that on exactly why they passed on Justin Jefferson. It’s fascinating and tragic. Passing on him was the culmination of an aggressive pivot away from a wr draft strategy that had failed them for nearly 2 decades.

They consistently drafted under explosive WRs who were balanced, but not that big and not that fast. From Freddie Mitchell to Reggie Brown to Agholor to Jordan Matthews to Josh Huff to JJAW…just underwhelming physical specimens with average to below average movement. And it all came to a head and got thrown in their face leading up to that draft.

And…fate can be cruel. Because that draft literally dropped the best "balance, not that big not that fast” wr of the freaking generation into the Eagles lap. And because of their past transgressions, they had to pivot into a guy who was hyped as a workout warrior, who, ironically wasn’t even even that. He actually flopped in his workout. Any other year, they’d have sprinted to the podium to call Jefferson’s name.

And yet we still won the Superbowl.

8 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I don’t think anyone has ever gone deeper than that on exactly why they passed on Justin Jefferson. It’s fascinating and tragic. Passing on him was the culmination of an aggressive pivot away from a wr draft strategy that had failed them for nearly 2 decades.

They consistently drafted under explosive WRs who were balanced, but not that big and not that fast. From Freddie Mitchell to Reggie Brown to Agholor to Jordan Matthews to Josh Huff to JJAW…just underwhelming physical specimens with average to below average movement. And it all came to a head and got thrown in their face leading up to that draft.

And…fate can be cruel. Because that draft literally dropped the best "balance, not that big not that fast” wr of the freaking generation into the Eagles lap. And because of their past transgressions, they had to pivot into a guy who was hyped as a workout warrior, who, ironically wasn’t even even that. He actually flopped in his workout. Any other year, they’d have sprinted to the podium to call Jefferson’s name.

I dont think it had to do with learning from their past. They had a clear need for a deep threat that year so they went for the best deep threat prospect in the draft over the so called slot guy. Also, Jefferson ran 4.3s at the combine so hes not a "not that fast" guy.

And this year, they are looking at those not that big, not that fast WRs again. We have guys like Bryce Lance in this draft, and the eagles are looking at KC Concepcion and Antonio Williams....

It also wasnt really that tragic at all because it affected the way roster management played out from that point on and ultimately we won a super bowl.

6 hours ago, garingovt2000 said:

Mock Rest of the Season

Baltimore trade 14 and 115 for AJ Brown and 197
Steelers trade 53 and 161 for McKee and 137

Chiefs trade 29, 40, and 75 for 23, 54, and 98

14 - Dillon Thieneman
29 - Max Iheanachor

40 - Denzel Boston

53 - Oscar Delp

68 - Dennis-Sutton

Any AJ brown trade won’t happen until after June 1st so this year’s draft picks I’m pretty sure are out of the question.

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Any AJ brown trade won’t happen until after June 1st so this year’s draft picks I’m pretty sure are out of the question.

Thank you, just didn't have the heart or motivation to explain this again......

9 hours ago, T-1000 said:

Good point. As did Oakland (Ruggs) and Denver (Jeudy). Dallas gets a pass since Lamb is almost as good as Jefferson.

I remember watching that draft and seeing Lamb getting closer and closer...I thought for sure Howie was gonna trade up a little to get Lamb and then Dallas took him, which sucked arse. Then I thought for sure Jefferson would be the pick when we were on the clock and then they announced Reagor Everyone, except the Eagles, knew that was the wrong choice at the exact time they made it.