3 minutes ago, downundermike said:

Fulgham has a higher YPC and 1 more TD in 3 less games.  

@HazletonEagle  

We found a gem. Howie is better finding players like Fulgham then drafting

1 minute ago, Godfather said:

We found a gem. Howie is better finding players like Fulgham then drafting

thats cause Joe Douglas pretty much drafted. 

Thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

Just now, HazletonEagle said:

thats cause Joe Douglas pretty much drafted. 

I guess this past class and next draft will determine that

19 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

are his stats so far out of sight that it wouldnt be reasonable to expect a healthy reagor to match that production?

Right now, leading rookie WRs are Jefferson, and #2 is my boy Tee Higgins. Not CeeDee. Not even Jeudy. 

And if I recall correctly from when I looked yesterday I believe Shenault is 3rd. Still not CeeDee or Jeudy. 

Or Maybe Claypool was 3rd and Shenault 4th.

Anyway,  you know what fans here would be saying about Howie if he traded up for CeeDee and Lamb wasnt even in the top 5 of rookie production right now? Can you imagine?

In fairness lamb’s production dropped off significantly when Dak got hurt. 

before dak’s injury:

29 receptions for 433 yards and 2 tds

after dak

7 receptions 64 yards

with Dak he was on pace for 93 receptions, 1386 yards and 6 touchdowns. I’m pretty sure with wentz and not trash like dallas has now he’D be super productive.

6 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

I think that reflects directly on the poor LB play and some overly aggressive DE play.  I recall both Sweat and BG biting hard on plays.

7 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

Ok now remove the 80 yard outlier to Daniel Jones

Just now, Mike31mt said:

Ok now remove the 80 yard outlier to Daniel Jones

That's fair, but the 10.3 YPC to WRs and TEs is still concerning. 

You guys are going to regret your libelous smears about Reagor

The kid is a big time baller, he just happened to join us when our team and offense was at its worst.

He will show out soon enough

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

In fairness lamb’s production dropped off significantly when Dak got hurt. 

before dak’s injury:

29 receptions for 433 yards and 2 tds

after dak

7 receptions 64 yards

with Dak he was on pace for 93 receptions, 1386 yards and 6 touchdowns. I’m pretty sure with wentz and not trash like dallas has now he’D be super productive. 

yeah. but as I said when he was drafted, hes got Cooper and Gallup there too so often he will be seeing the 3rd CB, or even a S or LB in the slot. He was SURE to have a good year. The real test will be next year when one of Cooper or Gallup are gone. 

1 hour ago, Casey @ Bat said:

For the life of me not sure why the F everyone is in a hurry to get rid of our all pro TE ? Cripes ...

Exactly. This fan base just has a thing for irrationally hating really good players. It drives me crazy.

3 minutes ago, Mike31mt said:

You guys are going to regret your libelous smears about Reagor

The kid is a big time baller, he just happened to join us when our team and offense was at its worst.

He will show out soon enough

I hope so. Wentz needs a dependable speedster

16 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

are his stats so far out of sight that it wouldnt be reasonable to expect a healthy reagor to match that production?

Right now, leading rookie WRs are Jefferson, and #2 is my boy Tee Higgins. Not CeeDee. Not even Jeudy. 

And if I recall correctly from when I looked yesterday I believe Shenault is 3rd. Still not CeeDee or Jeudy. 

Or Maybe Claypool was 3rd and Shenault 4th.

Anyway,  you know what fans here would be saying about Howie if he traded up for CeeDee and Lamb wasnt even in the top 5 of rookie production right now? Can you imagine?

There are some factors here tho.....Lamb is probably the 3rd or 4th option behind Cooper, Gallup and Zeke.  With the Eagles, Lamb would be the top target most likely.  Also have to factor in that Dak is out and that wont help Lambs numbers.

Again, I'm always gonna agree with you on Higgins.  Eagles could have had him and I think he'll be really good as he develops.  

8 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Thought this was pretty interesting. 

 

As much as I hate Schwartz the defense will play solid and even really good at times.  But they always seem to give up big chunks plays too often during games.  It's usually on some kind of trick play or reverse or an unlikely QB keeper like with Daniel Jones 80 yard run.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yeah. but as I said when he was drafted, hes got Cooper and Gallup there too so often he will be seeing the 3rd CB, or even a S or LB in the slot. He was SURE to have a good year. The real test will be next year when one of Cooper or Gallup are gone. 

I don’t disagree with your assertion that it will be harder next year for him. However he still talented.  There’s a debate to be he was the most talented wide receiver in that draft coming out. I think he’ll still will be fine. He’s a good Enough receiver to be productive. It’s not like jefferson doesn’t have teams focusing on thielen and cook As the two main guys to stop either. Or that the bengals have Tyler Boyd and Aj green and mixon that teams have to account with Higgins. Jeudy is struggling fant has been out. And hamler can’t stay healthy and Sutton is gone and QB stinks.

I get he sees the slot receiver but he also hasn’t strictly lined up in the slot. And i get coooper and Gallup along with zeke definitely helps any wr. 

also he’s been the second most productive rookie WR behind jefferson so far. He and jefferson are the only two Rookies in the top 15

 

13 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

In fairness lamb’s production dropped off significantly when Dak got hurt. 

before dak’s injury:

29 receptions for 433 yards and 2 tds

after dak

7 receptions 64 yards

with Dak he was on pace for 93 receptions, 1386 yards and 6 touchdowns. I’m pretty sure with wentz and not trash like dallas has now he’D be super productive. 

It also helps him having Amari Cooper on the other side and Ezekial Elliott at RB. Alshon looked like a potential world beater when he had Brandon Marshal opposite him. I like Alshon but it's important to recognize what he is and what he isn't. Ceedee Lamb reminds me of Mike Williams (Detroit 2005 round 1 pick 10). Lamb will have a better career because he is surrounded by better talent but I still wouldn't want him. He isn't/wasn't what the Eagles need(ed).

4 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

As much as I hate Schwartz the defense will play solid and even really good at times.  But they always seem to give up big chunks plays too often during games.  It's usually on some kind of trick play or reverse or an unlikely QB keeper like with Daniel Jones 80 yard run.

It's the situational scenarios that drive me crazy about this defense. They were in must-stop scenarios in the PIT and BAL games and couldn't come through. Had another one in the NYG game and got bailed out by Engram dropping the ball. Allowed a third stringer to get in Hail Mary range in the SF game and made everyone hold their breath on that. They also couldn't get a stop in the red zone against Washington. Yes, they look good at times but I do not trust them. 

3 hours ago, Bacarty2 said:

such a dumb comment. 

The chances of missing on a mid 20 pick and top 10 are light years away from each other. 

 

When 100 out of 100 people disagree with your thought process, maybe it's time to question your thought process, rather than insult everyone that disagrees with you.  By the way, your thought process is pathetic.  

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

I think you need to take off your Eagles colored glasses for a minute and look at the player Ertz is now...not the player who caught the winning SB52 pass.  He is a good tight end.  He can find soft spots in a defense.  He's no longer a bad matchup for linebackers however.  

* 69-of-81 snaps * 20 snaps slot or wide * 8 targets for an 18.6% share * 85 receiving yards, more than Zach Ertz has had since Wk 14 of last year

Richard Rodgers this season: 18 targets, 184 yards Zach Ertz this season: 45 targets, 178 yards

Maybe Ertz drawing a little more attention than Richard Rodgers especially w/o any others of significance on Offense. 

1 minute ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

It's the situational scenarios that drive me crazy about this defense. They were in must-stop scenarios in the PIT and BAL games and couldn't come through. Had another one in the NYG game and got bailed out by Engram dropping the ball. Allowed a third stringer to get in Hail Mary range in the SF game and made everyone hold their breath on that. They also couldn't get a stop in the red zone against Washington. Yes, they look good at times but I do not trust them. 

Redzone D has been flat out dreadful this year. Has anyone had to attempt a FG inside the 10 this year? Inside the 20?

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I don’t disagree with your assertion that it will be harder next year for him. However he still talented.  There’s a debate to be he was the most talented wide receiver in that draft coming out. I think he’ll still will be fine. He’s a good Enough receiver to be productive. It’s not like jefferson doesn’t have teams focusing on thielen and cook As the two main guys to stop either. Or that the bengals have Tyler Boyd and Aj green and mixon that teams have to account with Higgins. Jeudy is struggling fant has been out. And hamler can’t stay healthy and Sutton is gone and QB stinks.

I get he sees the slot receiver but he also hasn’t strictly lined up in the slot. And i get coooper and Gallup along with zeke definitely helps any wr. 

also he’s been the second most productive rookie WR behind jefferson so far. He and jefferson are the only two Rookies in the top 15

 

I must have overlooked his name yesterday when I was looking at that list. I blame Wentz. 

9 minutes ago, Nivraga said:

It also helps him having Amari Cooper on the other side and Ezekial Elliott and RB. Alshon looked like a potential world beater when he had Brandon Marshal opposite him. I like Alshon but it's important to recognize what he is and what he isn't. Ceedee Lamb reminds me of Mike Williams (Detroit 2005 round 1 pick 10). Lamb will have a better career because he is surrounded by better talent but I still wouldn't want him. He isn't/wasn't what the Eagles need(ed).

Just pointing out most of the rookie wide receivers who are having success right now have other talent around. Let’s go look Justin Jefferson has Adam Thielen and Dalvin Cook around him. Chase Claypool he has Diontae Johnson, juju Smith Schuster, James Connor is playing with a future Hall of Fame quarterback. Tee Higgins has Tyler Boyd, AJ Green, Joe Mixon playing around him.

you want to know why some of those rookies are having success besides just their god given talent? they also have talent around them to make them good. We act like lamb is the only one playing with offense of talent around him. Almost all the rookies are having success right now have talent around them. wanna know why Jerry jeudy is not as prolific as those guys? Fant has been hurt, Sutton is hurt, hamler is consistently hurt and lock was hurt. 

I love Travis fulgham  But you are telling me that lamb  Who was a more talented player coming out of college couldn’t be putting up the production that fulgham is right now with wentz?  I think lamb would be.   I really don’t see Mike Williams with hiim

6 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I must have overlooked his name yesterday when I was looking at that list. I blame Wentz. 

I’m guessing whoever wrote it probably meant over the last two weeks. Last two weeks lamb has been nonexistent. Then again most of dallas hasn’t been lol. 

2 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Maybe Ertz drawing a little more attention than Richard Rodgers especially w/o any others of significance on Offense. 

Have you watched the games?  Ertz was getting no separation.  He was dropping easy passes and his YAC was worse than ever.

26 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

are his stats so far out of sight that it wouldnt be reasonable to expect a healthy reagor to match that production?

Right now, leading rookie WRs are Jefferson, and #2 is my boy Tee Higgins. Not CeeDee. Not even Jeudy. 

And if I recall correctly from when I looked yesterday I believe Shenault is 3rd. Still not CeeDee or Jeudy. 

Or Maybe Claypool was 3rd and Shenault 4th.

Anyway,  you know what fans here would be saying about Howie if he traded up for CeeDee and Lamb wasnt even in the top 5 of rookie production right now? Can you imagine?

Yup, I wasn't over the moon for lamb,he's a nice player and he's just average all across the board. If I'm drafting a WR in the 1st round I need him to have at least one elite trait. Ruggs, reagor have elite speed, lamb does not. Higgins ,claypool have elite size, lamb does not,juedy has elite quickness, lamb does not. lambs size is average, his athletic numbers are all pretty average, having said that he has good hands and is tough after the catch. He reminds me of a more sure handed reggie brown and I think he's looked good but as you've said if howie traded up for lamb and he wasn't top 5 among rookie receivers howie would get killed 

 

32 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

I’m saying Ertz was the first Eagles player to give up when the game vs WASH began to turn, and I’m saying when he returns from his foot injury he will continue playing the way he was playing to start this season — not the way he played before this season.  
 

His body language, his pass routes, and his drops are saying he doesn’t care.  Maybe not rabid, but afflicted with ‘mail-it-in disease‘

Yet he’s the only guy on Social media Who’s injured sending out tweets for his guys. Like I said when teams and players aren’t performing well "looks can be deceiving”. To say he’s mailing it in is ludicrous. Struggling - sure. Frustrated - sure. A Quitter - no way.

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Have you watched the games?  Ertz was getting no separation.  He was dropping easy passes and his YAC was worse than ever.

I’ve watched them all since the early 80’s. Not playing well - yes. Toast? All done? After 3-4 poor games is a bit extreme. 
So maybe Wentz doesn’t suck then?