3 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

Random thought here but I'm tired of the white on white away uniforms. Why don't we wear green pants like we used to? It looks so much better imo.

White on white is the best uniform we have - anything to avoid that hideous color they call "green"

22 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

Random thought here but I'm tired of the white on white away uniforms. Why don't we wear green pants like we used to? It looks so much better imo.

Merrill will tell you, the green pants are slow.  

38 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

So I agree with most things... but some thoughts...

lane missed 4 last year, probably another 4 this year and at this point it seems thats the norm. 

Trading Dillard would admit they F***** up bad, and you'd get crushed return wise

Mailata on the bench would ruin him. The kids competitive, holding his own, that would be a huge step back. 

Trading Dillard because Mailata has earned his spot as a starting LT isn't quite the same as a Dillard being a bust pick.  I just don't see how you could start an unproven Dillard over Mailata.  If you're not starting Dillard, then what good does it do the team to keep him on the bench especially when he has shown limitations when being asked to switch sides.  Getting a 3rd round pick for him would be a win for the Eagles and probably better for Dillard. 

34 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

Random thought here but I'm tired of the white on white away uniforms. Why don't we wear green pants like we used to? It looks so much better imo.

Bring back the silver pants with the green stripes. 

2 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

If you're not starting Dillard, then what good does it do the team to keep him on the bench

Injuries happen, and if Tega or Toth aren't ready to play at LT, you keep Dillard for a year until they have a decent backup. I don't think Driscoll can play LT, and I don't want to see Pryor there. 

30 minutes ago, devpool said:

Not necessarily. They drafted Dillard not knowing mailata would develop into a quality player. Now that he has, Dillard is expendable.

They CAN keep dillard around as a backup, but if they can trade him to one of the many teams that need OL help they wouldn't get hosed. They're not going to get a first back, likely not even a second barring extreme desperation, but at the very least a 3rd. Not an amazing return but better than nothing, and if the eagles want more they don't have to move him at all

Yea, I've honestly seen enough from Mailata that I am listening to offers for Dillard.  Ideally you want Lane to play at a high level for 5-7 more years but the injuries while not season ending the past few seasons are enough to make you question whether or not he is going to hold up.  I don't know the cap implications of trading hm but I think that has to be on the table as well.

Ideal situation I think you want to see Dillard at LT and Mailata at RT while you trade Lane for either pick or a player who can help somewhere else.  You have your bookend tackles for the next decade, shed salary with Lane and gain a pick or player.  That would be huge.  That's not saying I want Lane Johnson gone or I think he isn't good anymore.  It's looking at the current roster and how to best utilize the players we have.

More realistic situation is Mailata at LT, Johnson at RT and you trade Dillard for presumably a 3rd like you said or another young player that doesn't fit the team they were drafted by.  Yes, you're admitting Dillard was a mistake but you get the best return possible and still have your LT for the decade.

What I don't want is Mailata on the bench.  He shows way too much promise ad potential to just sit him.  The ONLY way he is going to get better is by live game action.  

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Bring back the silver pants with the green stripes. 

Add a silver/chrome facemask too.  Too much black.  What sucks is they have 2 lighter gray colors that they could use as pants.  Nike can't make silver with their new materials.  Gone are the days of shiny pants.  It's why UGA doesn't have silver britches anymore.  Anything to freshen up their uniforms.

6 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

Thats like saying you lost 100,000 dollars at the casino but you got to eat and drink for free so it's a win. 

Trading a 1st rounder because he got beat out by a 7th rounder and only getting a 3rd rounder is a huge L. 

BUTTTTTTT yes, unfortunately . and because we're so bad at drafting, Id love to get a 3rd rounder. (dont think it'll happen)

You are not looking at the package in totality. 

Your investment for a potential ALL pro LT for the next decade was a 1st rd and 7th rd picks. The net gain would be that LT and a 3rd rd pick, 

so thats like losing $99,995 at the Black jack Table and then winning $125K on a  5$ spin on a slot machine. You still WON!

 

Total investment was a 1st and a 7th, you got your starting LT and a 3rd in return. 

 

 

Just now, Bacarty2 said:

You dont believe this ish do you? This is why the Eagles are stuck in purgatory for the last 2 years and foreseeable future. 

Good..great teams hit the first rounder AND  find the needle in the haystack 7th. 

Missing on a 1st shows you dont know what the F you're doing. Getting a 7th to catch on is Luck. 

 

 if you win $125,000 gambling on a $100,000 investment, you still WON!  

That is logical. 

 

There's no way I'm trading Dillard. I will be very interested to see how Mailata does at RT this weekend. If he plays well, we have three starting quality tackles with Mailata being the swing tackle. Much as it shocks me to say, I agree with @Bacarty2 that the new norm for Lane is four+ games missed each year. I don't know if he is breaking down but it feels like it. Figuring some missed time for Dillard and that makes a third tackle imperative.

Going a little further, it is clear to me that Mailata is an absolute monster in the run game and therefore ideal for our system at RT. Dillard, with better feet, is closer to ideal as a pass protector. He's still on a rookie deal, as is Mailata. We need that space, particularly next season, after which, we should be out of the worst of the cap crunch. At that point, Lane will only have one year left on his contract IIRC and Dillard and Mailata should be primed for full-time status.

This is in no way a knock on Lane's talent; my issue is uncertainty about his health. I think Mailata and Brooks side-by-side would be an awesome pairing. Besides, Mailata seems to have some Jon Runyan in him, and we need that.

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

You dont believe this ish do you? This is why the Eagles are stuck in purgatory for the last 2 years and foreseeable future. 

Good..great teams hit the first rounder AND  find the needle in the haystack 7th. 

Missing on a 1st shows you dont know what the F you're doing. Getting a 7th to catch on is Luck. 

 

Can't agree here. Nothing lucky about Mailata. Everybody in every NFL draft room knew what he was as an athlete and we moved up to get him (not a high climb, but still). What we had, which they didn't, was Stoutland, and that wasn't luck. We also had patience, and again that is not luck.

I was reading that teams were pushing to get trades done yesterday due to Covid testing periods in order to have players available to play next week. I wonder if that wasn’t nearly as important to us with the bye week coming so we could afford to slow play the market a bit. 

2 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Can't agree here. Nothing lucky about Mailata. Everybody in every NFL draft room knew what he was as an athlete and we moved up to get him (not a high climb, but still). What we had, which they didn't, was Stoutland, and that wasn't luck. We also had patience, and again that is not luck.

How many games has Dillard even started in this league, and there are those on here that want to call him a bust and/or trade him?  All I hear when people talk about Andrew Thomas with the Giants is "give him time; he wasn’t even slated to start this year until their starter opted out”

We have fielded more than a dozen OL this season because of injury, and people want to trade our first round pick already.     

1 hour ago, Damanick10 said:

Random thought here but I'm tired of the white on white away uniforms. Why don't we wear green pants like we used to? It looks so much better imo.

Green pants look turrible.  All whites are fresh.

10 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I feel like I'm living in bizaro world with some of these answers. 

F*ing team cant draft worth a lick but you want me to believe they knew exactly what they were getting/doing in the 7th. GTFO

It's pretty obvious the Eagles knew exactly what they were doing/getting with Mailata. It's one of their best decisions of the past 5 years. That's not even hindsight. Most of us liked the move at the time.

People have unrealistic expectations about 1st rd picks, especially after the top 10.

One reason players drop is they're not NFL ready, that is, they're talented but need work, in Dillard's case, strength was a known issue, if he was stronger he'd have gone in the top 10 based on his athleticism.

Sweat dropped to the 4th rd due to his injury, and the system he played in (read and react), teams knew he had tremendous upside but it would take 2-3 seasons to realize it. So you're only getting 1-2 seasons before you have to pay him big money.

Mailata was the best athlete in the draft, but the biggest unknown as well, projecting an Australian rugby player to the NFL? That's a stretch!

People whine about Taylor, well, if he was polished, he'd been picked in the top 50, so if you want the upside, you need to be patient.

There are always tradeoffs, JJAW was the opposite, limited upside, but should have had a high floor as a possession receiver, how's that working out? Though I think he might have a future as a H-back, he's already big enough (about the same size as Perkins) and is a willing blocker, and his lack of burst won't be the same issue in that role.

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

There's no way I'm trading Dillard. I will be very interested to see how Mailata does at RT this weekend. If he plays well, we have three starting quality tackles with Mailata being the swing tackle.

I think a lot depends on Tega and/or Toth. If either of those guys can turn into solid backups at LT, you have to consider moving Dillard, especially if Driscoll continues to impress at RT.

8 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

I feel like I'm living in bizaro world with some of these answers. 

F*ing team cant draft worth a lick but you want me to believe they knew exactly what they were getting/doing in the 7th. GTFO

No. They knew they had a chance. They had raw material and a great sculptor and they were willing to put in the time. They knew what they were doing. Feel free to drop the word "exactly" from your last sentence and we might agree. They invested a lot of time and coaching in a seventh round pick, neither of which was a function of luck.

12 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I was reading that teams were pushing to get trades done yesterday due to Covid testing periods in order to have players available to play next week. I wonder if that wasn’t nearly as important to us with the bye week coming so we could afford to slow play the market a bit. 

All depends on what we are trading. If we are trading picks for a player then yes, full makes sense to wait and let the market price drop as it gets closer to the end. If we are trading a player then no since the other team would want that player to play as fast as they can. For us it does make sense, but depends on the other team and what they are getting back. 

Seems the players feed off the fans, they really do take Dallas seriously.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/darius-slay-they-really-dont-nothing-about-cowboys

18 minutes ago, justrelax said:

There's no way I'm trading Dillard. I will be very interested to see how Mailata does at RT this weekend. If he plays well, we have three starting quality tackles with Mailata being the swing tackle. Much as it shocks me to say, I agree with @Bacarty2 that the new norm for Lane is four+ games missed each year. I don't know if he is breaking down but it feels like it. Figuring some missed time for Dillard and that makes a third tackle imperative.

Going a little further, it is clear to me that Mailata is an absolute monster in the run game and therefore ideal for our system at RT. Dillard, with better feet, is closer to ideal as a pass protector. He's still on a rookie deal, as is Mailata. We need that space, particularly next season, after which, we should be out of the worst of the cap crunch. At that point, Lane will only have one year left on his contract IIRC and Dillard and Mailata should be primed for full-time status.

This is in no way a knock on Lane's talent; my issue is uncertainty about his health. I think Mailata and Brooks side-by-side would be an awesome pairing. Besides, Mailata seems to have some Jon Runyan in him, and we need that.

It'll be funny to see him get a bigger contract than Dillard because he can play on both sides

6 minutes ago, Arsenal79 said:

Green pants look turrible.  All whites are fresh.

Your opinion is wrong bro

2 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

I think a lot depends on Tega and/or Toth. If either of those guys can turn into solid backups at LT, you have to consider moving Dillard, especially if Driscoll continues to impress at RT.

Perhaps I am being picky here, but Driscoll has not impressed me at RT. I see him as an interior guy. In my ideal scenario, when Kelce retires, Seumalo goes to C and Driscoll goes to LG.

2 minutes ago, Damanick10 said:

Your opinion is wrong bro

Your opinion about my opinion is wrong brah

19 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

so realistically this is how your scenario works out. 

You bet 800 dollars and lose. But you they give you a free 100 dollar food coupon  and you find 2 dollars leaving the casino. 

 

There is no way you can consider a 1st rounder being traded for a 3rd(maybe) 2 years after being drafted a win. ZERO 

Listen I will try and explain this to you one more time:

Your goal before the draft: Find a starting LT for the future.

Your investment during said draft : a 1st and 7th rd picks  Drafted 2 players

So far what we believe we have gained with those 2 draft picks: A starting LT for the Future and another player who could possibly be traded for a 3rd or 4th rd pick

How is that not a WIN/WIN scenario?